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Post by Verdi on 03.07.16 21:45

@Tony Bennett wrote:Many months ago, after I went to a local Green Party meeting on man-made climate change (where I kept my views on that issue very quiet), I managed to sneak on to the  mailing list of the Green Party Leader, Caroline Lucas, MP for Brighton Pavilion.

I received this missive today from her. This is how the Green Party are reacting to the democratic decision of the British people in a referendum where 33.5 million people voted:

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Dear  

A week ago we woke up in a different Britain. For those of us who believe Britain's future lies in our EU membership, it was a devastating shock, and for everyone who believes in a multicultural society the last week has been deeply alarming.

I’m really worried about our country.

Not only are we now on course for serious economic turmoil but our politics is broken too. The Conservative party has repeatedly failed us – leaving a country divided and many people struggling to get by. Labour is imploding – with a revolt by some MPs crippling the leadership and leaving them utterly unable to hold the Government to account while they engage in a civil war.

It will be a long time before the dust settles. In the coming months it falls upon us, the Green Party, to put forward a positive vision of what a post-referendum Britain could look like.

That’s why today I’m publishing my six point emergency response plan. It sets out how we should respond to the referendum – and how we can best protect our country against the potential damage caused by Brexit.

Our plan is below. It’s only a start, of course, and in the coming weeks and months we want you to be part of this discussion.

1 We demand a General Election in the Autumn so people can choose the Government they want to represent them in the negotiations to come: the current Government has no mandate for negotiations.  

2 We demand a Parliamentary vote on any ‘terms of exit’ BEFORE invoking Article 50. This stops a small cabal at the top of Government having total control over this country’s future place in the world.  

3 We demand the protection of free movement within the EU, strong environmental protections, workers rights and the Single Market.  We're working with a range of environment NGOs and other experts to identify ways to best protect vital Green legislation 

4 We demand a second referendum on the terms of a final deal. Britain decided to leave the EU, but nobody knew what kind of Brexit was on the ballot paper. It’s only right that we’re all given a say. 

5 We demand  an emergency law which guarantees the rights of non-British nationals already living here in Britain. No one who has come here to make a life for themselves should feel threatened by Brexit.

6 We demand the protection of young people’s future. 75% of young people voted to remain. It’s only right that the Government should now guarantee continued funding for Erasmus, student exchanges and EU funded schemes targeted at young people. 

This six point plan is only the beginning. In the coming weeks we’ll be redoubling our campaigning on the issues close to our hearts. For starters that means that we will be standing up to racism and xenophobia wherever it occurs. We have a proud history of fighting bigotry and our elected politicians across the country will be focussing on this over the coming days.

When others are divided we will unite to oppose Trident renewal, hold Ministers to account as the Chilcot Inquiry is published and bring legislation to Parliament which will distribute the benefits of migration to all communities in Britain.

We’re ambitious for the next few months. In a time of crisis we will stand up for people, and for our environment. It’s no wonder that new members are joining the party at a rate of almost one per minute. 

But to really make an impact we need your help. Please join us now!

Caroline Lucas M.P.

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ETA (9.20pm):   Just checked - and the almighty battle on the Prime Minister's website is raging ever more fiercely, with the Remain side dreaming up new petitions to try and overwhelm the 'Inovke Article 50 Now' petition which is continuing to go well - 41,500-plus signatures in less than 3 days.

This was the latest range of signatures in the last hour when I checked:

Most popular petitions

Invoke Article 50 of The Lisbon Treaty immediately.  (the BREXIT petition)

1,070 signatures in the last hour

EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum  (one of the Remain petitions)

549 signatures in the last hour

Let Parliament decide whether or not we remain a member of the European Union (another of the Remain petitions)

361 signatures in the last hour
P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A !!!

Who pays the ferryman?  What a relief the Green Party (appropriately named) are but two words that amount to nothing.

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Post by Mirage on 03.07.16 22:04

In the light of this Green Party  nonsense - which is an affront to democracy - I am off to sign the petition. 

As soon as I saw mention of NGOs in that Green bulletin I recalled an article describing NGOs (non-governmental organisations) as an interface to facilitate globalist government, aka NWO.

 The White Helmets are an interesting example of an NGO, and half of the huge amount of money raised by Brendan Cox was donated to them.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 03.07.16 22:39

@Mirage wrote:In the light of this Green Party  nonsense - which is an affront to democracy - I am off to sign the petition. 
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Legal Challenge to the submission of Article 50

Post by Richard IV on 04.07.16 0:12

https://next.ft.com/content/83db8e6a-4124-11e6-b22f-79eb4891c97d

Businesses prepare legal challenge over Brexit negotiations

Mishcon de Reya clients want act of parliament before Article 50

YESTERDAY by: Henry Mance, Political Correspondent

A group of businesses is preparing a legal challenge to prevent the government from beginning Brexit negotiations without an act of parliament.

The action, brought by law firm Mishcon de Reya, would potentially complicate Britain’s path to leaving the EU, given that a majority of MPs were in favour of remaining and many have continued to speak in favour of maintaining access to the single market.

Candidates in the Conservative leadership election have so far treated the start of negotiations as within the next prime minister’s discretion.

Theresa May, favourite in the leadership debate, told ITV’s Peston on Sunday that she would only activate Article 50, the formal notification of Britain’s intention to leave, once the government’s negotiating stance was clear. That would mean the legal trigger would not occur this calendar year, a stance supported by the justice secretary Michael Gove. He said all EU citizens lawfully resident in the UK must retain their right of residence.

In contrast, two other candidates in the Conservative leadership election, Andrea Leadsom and Liam Fox, have said they would begin formal negotiations in September or shortly after. EU leaders have also said negotiations should begin once a new prime minister is in place.

“It’s about giving certainty to businesses,” Ms Leadsom told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show. “We just need to get on with it.”

Once Article 50 is activated, the UK would have to leave the EU within two years — unless all other member states consented to an extension.

Mischon de Reya’s legal challenge follows an article by three academics, Nick Barber, Tom Hickman and Jeff King. The article argued that the government would be violating parliamentary sovereignty if it activated Article 50 on its own — because it would render redundant rights established by the European Communities Act of 1972.

“In our constitution, parliament gets to make this decision, not the prime minister,” the academics said. In addition, an activation without a parliamentary vote would not be effective, because Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty requires a state to act “in accordance with its own constitutional requirements”.

Kasra Nouroozi, a partner at Mishcon de Reya, said: “The result of the referendum is not in doubt, but we need a process that follows UK law to enact it. Article 50 simply cannot be invoked without a full debate and vote in parliament.”

The firm, which has not disclosed the names of its clients in the action, said that government lawyers argued that the executive did have the power to activate Article 50.

In a sign of parliamentary activism, the Labour party’s Yvette Cooper called on Sunday for the government to guarantee the rights of EU citizens living in the UK, after Mrs May said they would be subject to negotiation.

Mrs May’s rival, Mr Gove, said that all EU citizens lawfully resident in the UK must retain their right of residence.

Last week three MPs — the Conservative Peter Bottomley, the SDLP’s Mark Durkan and the Greens’ Caroline Lucas — backed an early day motion, calling for the government not to invoke Article 50 “until the full proposals it intends to submit to the commission to activate the process of withdrawal from the EU are debated in full and voted upon by parliament.”

Despite its political ramifications, the referendum had no automatic effect in UK law. Leading members of the Conservatives and Labour have said the result should be respected, although the Liberal Democrats have said they will continue to fight for Britain to remain within the EU.

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Post by plebgate on 04.07.16 0:25

I am beginning think that these people have been brainwashed.  Supposedly highly educated people wanting to keep us in a Union that is doomed.   So many countries now saying they want a referendum and want out and Merkel's own Ministers are beginning to turn on her apparently.

Why on earth would they want us to remain in such a Union?   They will drag us down if we stay in.    I truly do not understand the mentality.

This is becoming a class war now and The Bubble have decided that the OIKS don't matter one jot.   We cannot allow it to happen and having discussed this with a number of family and friends we are prepared to march for our right to be heard and having been heard for it to be acted upon.

Enough already from the clowns who think they can ride rough shod over us FOREVER.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 04.07.16 6:03

The enemies of our country's new-found independence, the enemies of democracy, are dreaming up one trick after another to keep us in.

Now a prominent law firm says that only Parliament can decide to invoke Article 50.

Tha's clearly a nonsense - it's a job for the government.

Another lie being promoted by the BBC is that the referendum has no legal force. It was made clear before the vote that the issue of our BBC membership was for the voters to decide, and the very definition of referendum is: "A political issue which is referred to the people for decision".  
 
The BBC has been furiously promoting this legal advice that only Parliament can invoke Article 50  in the last few hours, giving barely a mention of the fact that many other lawyers consider this to be a nonsense.

The BBC also gave huge publicity to the 'March for Europe' on Saturday. I believe the BBC is doing all it reasonably can to frustrate the will of the electorate to leave the EU:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36700350 

Brexit: Legal steps seek to ensure Commons vote on Article 50

4 hours ago

(From the section UK Politics)

[Picture: Cameron has said he will not trigger Article 50 before he steps down as Prime Minister]


A law firm is taking action to ensure the formal process for the UK leaving the EU is not started without an act of Parliament.

Mishcon de Reya, lawyers acting for a group of business people and academics, said it would be unlawful for a prime minister to trigger Article 50 without a full debate and vote in Parliament.

It comes after the UK voted to leave the EU in the 23 June referendum.

The government said Parliament had "a role" to find "the best way forward".

Following the referendum, David Cameron announced he would stand down as prime minister by October and would leave his replacement to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

Once the legal process is triggered there is a two-year time limit to negotiate an exit deal from the EU.

[ See also: Brexit: What happens now?
Does the UK have to trigger Article 50?
Article 50 - the simplest explanation you'll find ]

Mishcon de Reya's clients argue that under the UK constitution the decision to trigger Article 50 rests with Parliament.

The firm has been in correspondence with government officials to seek assurances over the process.

The result of the referendum is not in doubt, but we need a process that follows UK law to enact it, said Kasra Nouroozi of Mishcon de Reya.

The BBC's legal correspondent Clive Coleman said Mishcon de Reya believed that any prime minister using executive powers to start the process would be acting unlawfully because they would be overriding the 1972 European Communities Act that enshrines UK membership of the EU.

The law firm says that constitutionally only legislation can override legislation and an act of Parliament is required to give the prime minister legal authority.

The passage of such an act could in theory provide the majority of MPs who favoured Remain the chance to block the UK leaving, our correspondent said, but he added that this seemed "constitutionally inconceivable".

'Legal certainty'

Kasra Nouroozi, a Mishcon de Reya partner, said: "We must ensure that the government follows the correct process to have legal certainty and protect the UK Constitution and the sovereignty of Parliament in these unprecedented circumstances.

"The result of the referendum is not in doubt, but we need a process that follows UK law to enact it.

"The outcome of the referendum itself is not legally binding and for the current or future prime minister to invoke Article 50 without the approval of Parliament is unlawful.

"We must make sure this is done properly for the benefit of all UK citizens. Article 50 simply cannot be invoked without a full debate and vote in Parliament."



Analysis

r has said the UK does not have "months to meditate" on activating Article 50
By Clive Coleman, BBC legal correspondent

It has come as a shock to many that the referendum result itself is not legally binding in UK law and it alone does not trigger the UK's departure from the EU.

That has to be done under the withdrawal process laid down in Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

If it was decided that a prime minister acting alone under prerogative powers lacked the constitutional authority to trigger Article 50, an act of Parliament would need to be passed giving him or her that authority.

The passage of that act would of course provide the opportunity for MPs (a majority of whom favour Remain) to express their views on Brexit and in theory vote according to their consciences.

However, it seems constitutionally inconceivable that Parliament would fly in the face of the Leave vote secured through a national referendum and refuse to pass an act that gave the prime minister authority to begin the "divorce" process.

In other words, the referendum has changed nothing legally but everything politically.

Can the law stop Brexit?



European leaders have said the UK should not delay leaving the EU, with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker saying the UK does not have "months to meditate" on activating Article 50,

The two-year negotiation period under Article 50 can be extended only with the unanimous agreement of the remaining 27 member states.

If there is no extension, the UK ceases to be a member of the EU on the conclusion of an agreement within the two years, but in any event two years after notice has been given.

A Cabinet Office spokesman said: "As the prime minister said in the Commons, we have now got to look at all the detailed arrangements, and Parliament will clearly have a role in making sure that we find the best way forward.

"It will be important to ensure in moving ahead that the interests of all parts of the United Kingdom are protected and advanced."

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Post by BlueBag on 04.07.16 7:16

Theresa May, favourite in the leadership debate, told ITV’s Peston on Sunday that she would only activate Article 50, the formal notification of Britain’s intention to leave, once the government’s negotiating stance was clear. That would mean the legal trigger would not occur this calendar year, a stance supported by the justice secretary Michael Gove. He said all EU citizens lawfully resident in the UK must retain their right of residence

These people make me sick.



They speak with a forked tonque.


They really have no intention of changing anything.


They will delay and delay until something happens that "changes everything".

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Post by plebgate on 04.07.16 7:46

In the comments section of a Daily Express article it says that this law firm Mischon de Reya is Mrs Bliars firm.  Says it all.

Who is running this country exactly?   It seems to me as Bliar and his labour luvvies are and just whose puppet is Bliar?

Come on Jeremy Corbyn let's hear what you have to say about this man on Wednesay because I can't see Camerun doing it.

Why is Camerun still in office?

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Post by Richard IV on 04.07.16 11:10

Another worry which has been kept rather quiet is that the London Stock Exchange shareholders are due to vote today on whether they should merge with the German Stock Exchange.  There is even a likelihood that their headquarters will be moved to Germany.  This is supposed to `foster ties between UK and Europe`.  The German stock exchange shareholders will vote on the 12th.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36698382

http://uk.reuters.com/article/lse-deutsche-boerse-shareholders-idUKL8N19N49C

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Post by BlueBag on 04.07.16 14:30

We can not wait until 2017 to trigger Article 50.

It's a joke.

I don't trust May and I don't trust Gove.

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Post by whatsupdoc on 04.07.16 15:12

Total now 50,163 when I signed...half way to having it debated in Parliament.

Don't be shy.

Add your name or we could lose the Brexit momentum and that would be a disaster.

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Post by MayMuse on 04.07.16 15:19

Already signed. smilie

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 04.07.16 15:23



It was just over 45k when I posted it on facebewk and twitter this morning.

Great news that more than 5,000 have signed it since. It's now up to 50,371!

Just a few more days before it reaches the required 100k so the Goverment can ignore it.

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Keep circulating this link far and wide: https://petition.parliament.uk/133618

Post by Tony Bennett on 04.07.16 16:58

Yes, now at over 51,300 signatures which is good going after just three-and-a-half days, over half-way in half a week.

However, the anti-democratic forces trying to overturn the BREXIT decision and are mounting up numbers on all manner of petitions calling for (1) a second referendum (2) Parliament (not us) to decide if we leave the EU or not, (3) Article 50 NOT to be signed, etc. etc. They are putting their heart and soul into this.

So this petition to invoke Article 50 NOW is urgent and needs to be circulated far and wide:

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 04.07.16 17:12

@Tony Bennett wrote:Yes, now at over 51,300 signatures which is good going after just three-and-a-half days, over half-way in half a week.

However, the anti-democratic forces trying to overturn the BREXIT decision and are mounting up numbers on all manner of petitions calling for (1) a second referendum (2) Parliament (not us) to decide if we leave the EU or not, (3) Article 50 NOT to be signed, etc. etc. They are putting their heart and soul into this.

So this petition to invoke Article 50 NOW is urgent and needs to be circulated far and wide:

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

I noticed one of the petitions had more than 4million signatures.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 04.07.16 18:20

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:Yes, now at over 51,300 signatures which is good going after just three-and-a-half days, over half-way in half a week.

However, the anti-democratic forces trying to overturn the BREXIT decision and are mounting up numbers on all manner of petitions calling for (1) a second referendum (2) Parliament (not us) to decide if we leave the EU or not, (3) Article 50 NOT to be signed, etc. etc. They are putting their heart and soul into this.

So this petition to invoke Article 50 NOW is urgent and needs to be circulated far and wide:

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

I noticed one of the petitions had more than 4 million signatures.
Indeed, and that's the one all the anti-democratic folk have been signing which (sort of) calls for a second referendum.
It has over 4.11 million signatures at the moment.

Except that when you look at what that petition actually calls for, it's really only calling for a change in the rules on referendums in the future (and was started by a 'Leave' supporter!)

But although the Article 50 petition is off to a flying start, with 52,500-plus singers to date, all it means so far is that for every one person who has signed it so far, around eighty have signed the 'second referendum' one.

So, again, the two petitions for BREXITEERS to sign are:

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618  (Invoke Article 50, Lisbon Treaty now) 

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125333  (Repeal the European Communities Act now)

Any #BREXIT supporters need to get signing both ASAP

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Post by Tony Bennett on 04.07.16 18:37

The BBC is still up to its old tricks, pretending to be neutral, but peddling this nonsense about Article 50:

(BBC News website, just now)


The claim: The next prime minister will not be allowed to invoke Article 50 - the mechanism for leaving the European Union - unless an act of Parliament authorises them to do so.

Reality Check verdict: It may turn out that an act of Parliament is needed before Article 50 may be triggered, but it is difficult to see how Parliament could in practice ignore the result of the referendum.

A group of unnamed business people and academics represented by the law firm Mishcon de Reya has launched a legal challenge to require a future prime minister to get the approval of Parliament before triggering Article 50.

It followed an article along the same lines from the Constitutional Law Association.

Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is the mechanism by which countries may leave the European Union.


Once the article has been triggered, it sets a two-year time limit for negotiations, which may only be extended if all the member states agree to it.
The lawyers at Mishcon argue that triggering Article 50 would automatically, although not immediately, override the European Communities Act 1972, and that only Parliament can change its own legislation.

But some legal experts argue that the 1972 act would remain part of UK law until it is repealed by Parliament at the end of the process, rather than the beginning.

It is important to get it right, because Article 50 says a member state may decide to leave only "in accordance with its own constitutional requirements".
During the campaign, Prime Minister David Cameron said he would go to Brussels immediately after the referendum to trigger Article 50, although he has since decided to resign.

If he had gone straight away, it would have had to have been with the use of prerogative power, a collection of executive powers held by the Crown since medieval times and now placed in the hands of ministers.

They are often used in foreign affairs that Parliament has largely left to the government. So, for example, the prime minister would not ask Parliament who to nominate to be head of the European Commission or whether to ask for a lower EU budget.

Dr Thomas Horsley, an expert on EU law from Liverpool Law School, says the challenge to the prime minister's ability to trigger Article 50 without the prior approval of Parliament is "based on a particularly wide reading of a set of cases on limits to the exercise of prerogative powers".

But he adds: "It would be politically necessary with respect to Article 50 that when prerogative powers are used, Parliament is consulted - at the very least."

Kasra Nouroozi, from Mishcon de Reya, says: "Everyone in Britain needs the government to apply the correct constitutional process and allow Parliament to fulfil its democratic duty, which is to take into account the results of the referendum along with other factors and make the ultimate decision."

It is the suggestion that there are "other factors" to take into account that is tricky, because the majority of MPs were in favour of staying in the EU.

A Cabinet Office spokesman said: "As the prime minister said in the Commons, we have now got to look at all the detailed arrangements, and Parliament will clearly have a role in making sure that we find the best way forward."

So it sounds like there will be some involvement from Parliament.

But, as BBC legal affairs correspondent Clive Coleman says, "it seems constitutionally inconceivable that Parliament would fly in the face of the Leave vote secured through a national referendum and refuse to pass an act that gave the prime minister authority to begin the 'divorce' process".

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Re: *** NEW - Article 50 Petition ACCEPTED - Open for signatures *** (was: CMOMM member proposes urgent post-BREXIT petition to the Prime Minister)

Post by MayMuse on 04.07.16 18:51

All of this has my head in such a spin. 
I am concerned that it will be overturned and we will remain wow I have zero confidence in anyone who was against leaving the EU who may be the next PM; it is contradictory and how do we know that they will "trigger" Article 50.
The vote to leave won, should Parliament go against this I dread to think what will happen. 
It shows that they do not care about the "people".
Other than all the petitions, what else can be done?

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Re: *** NEW - Article 50 Petition ACCEPTED - Open for signatures *** (was: CMOMM member proposes urgent post-BREXIT petition to the Prime Minister)

Post by Get'emGonçalo on 04.07.16 18:57

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:Yes, now at over 51,300 signatures which is good going after just three-and-a-half days, over half-way in half a week.

However, the anti-democratic forces trying to overturn the BREXIT decision and are mounting up numbers on all manner of petitions calling for (1) a second referendum (2) Parliament (not us) to decide if we leave the EU or not, (3) Article 50 NOT to be signed, etc. etc. They are putting their heart and soul into this.

So this petition to invoke Article 50 NOW is urgent and needs to be circulated far and wide:

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

I noticed one of the petitions had more than 4 million signatures.
Indeed, and that's the one all the anti-democratic folk have been signing which (sort of) calls for a second referendum.
It has over 4.11 million signatures at the moment.

Except that when you look at what that petition actually calls for, it's really only calling for a change in the rules on referendums in the future (and was started by a 'Leave' supporter!)
The Committee has decided to defer its decision on this petition until the Government Digital Service has done all it can to verify the signatures on the petition. We have already had to remove 77,000 fraudulent signatures. The Committee wishes to make clear that, although it may choose to schedule a debate on this petition in due course, it only has the power to schedule debates in Westminster Hall – the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. Debates in Westminster Hall do not have the power to change the law, and could not trigger a second referendum.

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Re: *** NEW - Article 50 Petition ACCEPTED - Open for signatures *** (was: CMOMM member proposes urgent post-BREXIT petition to the Prime Minister)

Post by roy rovers on 05.07.16 0:16

Circle the wagons, Johnny Foreigner's about!

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Re: *** NEW - Article 50 Petition ACCEPTED - Open for signatures *** (was: CMOMM member proposes urgent post-BREXIT petition to the Prime Minister)

Post by Verdi on 05.07.16 0:17

EU Referendum:  A Word on the Beach by Richard North 2nd February 2013



http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=83582

Harold Wilson and the 1975 referendum - over 40 years ago.  ABANDON SHIP!

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Re: *** NEW - Article 50 Petition ACCEPTED - Open for signatures *** (was: CMOMM member proposes urgent post-BREXIT petition to the Prime Minister)

Post by Verdi on 05.07.16 1:18

It was Friday 1st July that Tony announced the 'alternative' petition on the forum that was registered just before his.  That ain't half bad going for a few days work!

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