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Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

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Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by PeterMac on 30.11.14 14:18

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/spanish-news/item/124294-father-will-search-for-body-if-police-don-t

Father will search for body if police don’t
Sunday, 30 November 2014 11:31
THE father of a murdered Sevilla girl has complained that policemen have not looked everywhere they should have done to find her body.
Antonio del Castillo, father of Marta del Castillo who was killed in January 2009 by Miguel Carcaño who has been jailed for murder, revealed that there are two covered wells in a tip between Camas and Sevilla which police did not search for his daughter’s body.

The girl’s father, who was informed last week by police that they had stopped searches in the area, explained that he went to the tip to look around himself.
"I went to the tip to see what was left to search and analyse the ground because I get the feeling I will have to go out and dig myself,” Antonio said, explaining that if the police do not start searching again by the end of March 2015 he will do so himself.
Del Castillo commented regarding discovery of the bodies of a mother and daughter earlier in the week that Madrid police seem to be either luckier or more efficient than the police in Sevilla in charge of searching for his daughter.
Don't know what other evidence there was,

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Re: Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by PeterMac on 30.11.14 15:28

It appears he confessed but gave no fewer than EIGHT different versions of the truth indicating the location of the remains.

(As opposed to another couple who have not yet achieved that distinction)

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Yet another one charged with Murder - but NO BODY

Post by PeterMac on 02.02.15 9:11

This is NOT unusual.

http://news.sky.com/story/1417324/police-search-lake-for-missing-mother-of-four
Police Search Lake For Missing Mother Of Four
Specialist officers search water and woodland in the hunt for Samantha Henderson after her partner is accused of her murder.

Thursday 29 January 2015

Ms Henderson has four young children
Police trying to find a mother of four who has been missing for a week have been searching areas of woodland and water.
Samantha Henderson, 25, of Halves Cottages in Corfe Castle, Dorest, was reported missing on the morning of 22 January.
Ms Henderson - whose children are aged six, four, two and one - was last seen outside Corfe Castle Primary School around 3pm on 21 January.
Police have been searching an area near Corfe Castle and extra officers have been deployed to comb woodland and water in the Lake Pier and South Haven Close areas of Hamworthy.
Ms Henderson's partner Dominic Isom, 27, has been accused of her murder and appeared at Bournemouth Magistrates Court on Wednesday.

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Re: Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by ultimaThule on 03.02.15 3:49

Although the latter case you have cited is not unusual, PeterM, the difficulties of mounting an unassailable case for murder where there is no body should not be underestimated and, more particularly, when it is necessary to rule out Old Uncle Tom Cobley, Victoria Beckham lookalikes, & all numerous potential perpetrators in a crime committed outside of the jurisdiction of the UK's various police authorities for which an assortment of British nationals may be suspected of being complicit http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11078595/Madeleine-McCann-are-we-any-closer-to-knowing-the-truth.html

In such cases Aesop's fable of the tortoise and the hare tends to prevail as does the adage 'softly, softly, catchee monkey', albeit some would have it that putting the PG Tips chimps in charge of HOLMES 2 would have resulted in convictions some considerable time ago. yes

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Yet another long forgotten case, conviction but NO BODY

Post by PeterMac on 10.05.15 8:41

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/576163/Marie-McCourt-Ian-Simms-Myra-Hindley-Ian-Brady
Life should mean life' for killer Ian Simms says mum whose daughter's body is missing

A MOTHER is demanding new laws for killers who “torment” the families of their victims by refusing to reveal where they disposed of the bodies.

By EUGENE HENDERSON
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, May 10, 2015 | UPDATED: 00:57, Sun, May 10, 2015

WARREN SMITH
Marie McCourt is determined that “life should mean life” for the cruel killers
Heartbroken Marie McCourt, 71, has spent almost three decades searching for the remains of her daughter Helen.

As the man who butchered her daughter prepares for freedom, she is determined that “life should mean life” for the cruel killers.
Helen was murdered in February 1988, aged 23, but killer Ian Simms has never given up his darkest secret. For the family, says Marie, it is “an endless torment”.

Simms, 57, is expected to appear before a parole panel this summer and could be close to being released.
I’m scared that like Winnie Johnson, who died without finding the body of her son Keith Bennett killed by the Moors murderers Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, I will go to my grave not knowing
Marie McCourt
In the past prisoners had to show remorse and admit their guilt before they could be granted parole but those rules have changed.
Now Marie is calling for the Government to introduce “Helen’s Law” in her daughter’s memory and keep in jail killers who show no mercy to the families of victims.
She said: “It may be too late to stop Helen’s killer from winning his freedom but I want to see a change in the law.
“Any judge should be able to tell a murderer who is found guilty but refuses to disclose his victim’s whereabouts that ‘life means life unless you tell us the body’s location’.
“Please God, that will spare other people the endless searching that I and my family have had to endure.”
Insurance clerk Helen vanished as she walked to her home in Billinge, Merseyside. Months later Simms, who was landlord of a pub where she had worked part-time, became one of the first people to be convicted using only DNA.

Helen’s body never having been found. Marie and her husband John Sandwell refuse to give up their agonising search for their daughter’s body.
At their home in Billinge, letters still arrive from people suggesting locations where she may be found.
“I’ve always believed that we will find Helen,” said Marie.
“But in the last few years I’ve started feeling more and more that he will never tell me the truth. He enjoys the control.”

Marie believes new legislation denying killers parole would at least provide some comfort, if not the answer, to the never-ending torment many other families, such as the parents of April Jones, endure. Five-year-old April was abducted from near her home in Machynlleth, Mid Wales, in October 2012.
Local man Mark Bridger, 49, was found guilty of her murder but has never revealed what he did with her body.
Simms has already served 11 years longer than his 16-year minimum term imposed after a jury found him guilty of murder at Liverpool Crown Court in 1989.
Last month Marie gave evidence to a parole panel at Wymott Prison in Leyland, Lancashire, and has just learned that Simms’s hearing has been adjourned until July.
The prospect of Simms becoming a free man fills Marie with dread but it is something she has had to come to terms with since he was transferred to the category C jail.
“Now it’s his right to apply for supervised visits to shopping centres, although I am supposed to be told in advance,” she said.
“But there’s nothing to stop me coming face-to-face with him in the street. That thought is horrific.
“I’m scared that like Winnie Johnson, who died without finding the body of her son Keith Bennett killed by the Moors murderers Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, I will go to my grave not knowing.
“I have a strong faith and I know that one day I will see Helen again. But for those I leave behind they will never be free of this torment, while Simms will be a free man.”
Heartbroken Marie McCourt, 71, has spent almost three decades searching for the remains of her daughter Helen.

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Re: Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by aiyoyo on 10.05.15 22:00

Very common for cases to go to trial even sans body with successful prosecutions.
Statistics prove that.
Unsolved cases are never abandoned.  
Even decades old cold cases are taken out for review.  Something that was missed earlier or something that comes up later can help result in prosecutions. 
Perpetrators thinking they are home and dry are often caught surprise.
The odious pair are not safe (as they believed) until the case is officially declared closed, after trial is had.
No cold cases left are ever declared closed.

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Re: Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by Knitted on 11.05.15 3:49

...and down here in Kent a woman went missing. No body's been found and no one seems to know what happened to her...and yet someone close has been arrested for murder.

Quotes from local news article:
- The husband of missing Deal woman Mariola Cudworth has been charged with her murder.
- Mrs Cudworth, also known as Mijka, was reported missing from her home in Northbourne on Thursday, April 30. 
- Police say the last known contact with Mijka was just before midnight on Tuesday, April 28 and she remains missing.

As far as I can see no dogs have alerted to the scent of a cadaver... As far as I can see no statements have been made by old friends as to 'suspect' behaviour witnessed the previous year... As far as I can see no statements made have been altered or shown to be erroneous...and yet someone very close to the victim has been arrested and will thus be able to defend their innocence in a court of law. 

Maybe it's just who, and what, you know?

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Re: Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by jeanmonroe on 11.05.15 11:37


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Re: Another conviction but NO BODY FOUND

Post by Joss on 11.05.15 12:30

@aiyoyo wrote:Very common for cases to go to trial even sans body with successful prosecutions.
Statistics prove that.
Unsolved cases are never abandoned.  
Even decades old cold cases are taken out for review.  Something that was missed earlier or something that comes up later can help result in prosecutions. 
Perpetrators thinking they are home and dry are often caught surprise.
The odious pair are not safe (as they believed) until the case is officially declared closed, after trial is had.
No cold cases left are ever declared closed.
Exactly.

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