Latest interview with Dr Amaral - copied from Joana Morais - with thanks

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ShuBob wrote:So I can re-enter the thread.

Phew!

Totally agree, rumours abound it being CR employees but can't prove, sorry. IMO

He lived in Yorkshire and his wife was in retail according to his earlier posts.

If it is Insane who desperately tries to disrupt several forums Textusa for one, and he really is genuinely trying to get his opinion across all he needs to do is drop his appalling and condescending attitude towards other posters. 

I agree with many, he has some very good points but winds everyone up.

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Garrincha wrote:Having looked back over this thread, IMO, given the extraordinary efforts to derail it, there must be something extremely sensitive in the first few pages. Any ideas?

fossey wrote:Hope this obsession with the cynicalAl stuff can be put to bed now. 

Anyway.

[color:faa7=000000][size=13]Dismal Spectacle [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][/size]

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[color:faa7=000000]The investigation of the last two weeks, if it can be called an investigation, was surreal.

By Carlos Anjos [president of the Committee for the protection of crime victims, former president of PJ Union]
[size=10]13 June 2014
With thanks to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for translation

If there were doubts about the PJ investigation, lo and behold, the English police conferred legitimacy to it.

The investigation that we have witnessed in the last two weeks, if it can be called investigation, was at best, surreal. While watching Andy Redwood, I've missed Gonçalo Amaral.

The English police had no idea what they were doing, in addition to spending money - in two years they have already spent over €8 million, the operating budget of the PJ in one year.

In two weeks, they told us that Maddie was abducted by an abuser who used to lay down in a bed with minors. And the girl woke up, was killed and buried.

Then there were three Portuguese, but could have been six, that were committing burglaries. Maddie woke up, was killed and buried.

Then, at the searches, they found two cannabis plants and look: Maddie was killed by drug traffickers who were robbing her house.

Objective fact: the English have no doubt that there was a robbery.

Problem: there was no break-in, the doors were locked and nothing was stolen.

So how did they get in? Another mystery.

And then they went, as they came, after that dismal spectacle.[/size]

SixMillionQuid wrote:
Neither the McCanns nor OG have explained or given their theories how the abductor got into the apartment when they were specifically told that there was not sign of break-in - their spokesman has gone on to admit this.

So rather than leaving it to internet forums to do the work for them, I thinks its time (after seven years) they came out and explained how the intruder got in and out undetected and without stealing any items a burglar would normally steal. Draws weren't left open. Clothes weren't left all over the place. Obviously the burglar carried a torch to see what he was doing in the dark.

fossey wrote:

SixMillionQuid wrote:
Neither the McCanns nor OG have explained or given their theories how the abductor got into the apartment when they were specifically told that there was not sign of break-in - their spokesman has gone on to admit this.

So rather than leaving it to internet forums to do the work for them, I thinks its time (after seven years) they came out and explained how the intruder got in and out undetected and without stealing any items a burglar would normally steal. Draws weren't left open. Clothes weren't left all over the place. Obviously the burglar carried a torch to see what he was doing in the dark.

Very easy - they got in by simply strolling through the doors that were left unlocked if you believe GM's b*llsh!t second version of events.

He tripped himself up first time round saying the Apt was all locked up.

aiyoyo wrote:What about the dogs?

Whatever timeline they are working on, they can't have ignored the dogs evidence if they continue to trust and rely on dogs into the future.

The abandoning of the search before time is up is the most surreal bit.
Why did they launch an expensive operation with complex logistics undertaken and everything deployed to sites only to dismantle them and abandoned search mid way through is the million $ question.

AndyB wrote:

Beanie wrote:

Woofer wrote:

Beanie wrote:

ShuBob wrote:So I can re-enter the thread.

Phew!

Totally agree, rumours abound it being CR employees but can't prove, sorry. IMO

He lived in Yorkshire and his wife was in retail according to his earlier posts.

If it is Insane who desperately tries to disrupt several forums Textusa for one, and he really is genuinely trying to get his opinion across all he needs to do is drop his appalling and condescending attitude towards other posters. 

I agree with many, he has some very good points but winds everyone up.

"Insane" claims it isn't him [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I would be very interested to see links to the "several forums"  that "insane" disrupts. Please feel free to PM them to me if you're uncomfortable posting them publicly

Issy wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:What about the dogs?

Whatever timeline they are working on, they can't have ignored the dogs evidence if they continue to trust and rely on dogs into the future.

The abandoning of the search before time is up is the most surreal bit.
Why did they launch an expensive operation with complex logistics undertaken and everything deployed to sites only to dismantle them and abandoned search mid way through is the million $ question.

One of the few things that gives me a little - just a very little - faith in the Met is their public use of cadaver dogs during the recent searches. Maybe they didn't mean it as such, but this seems like a very public acknowledgment of their faith in this type of dog and, if that is so, it follows that they must take the original cadaver dog's alerts seriously instead of dismissing them in the way Team McCann has always done. I wonder what Kate and Gerry feel about this? It must have been rather galling to see the type of dogs they so scornfully dismissed being used by OG in these public searches.

canada12 wrote:Narcissistic...?
Trying to disrupt and possibly destroy any forum and/or blog that debates the case...?
Maybe a someone named Gerry or Kate...?
Just my opinion.

Woofer wrote:

Issy wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:What about the dogs?

Whatever timeline they are working on, they can't have ignored the dogs evidence if they continue to trust and rely on dogs into the future.

The abandoning of the search before time is up is the most surreal bit.
Why did they launch an expensive operation with complex logistics undertaken and everything deployed to sites only to dismantle them and abandoned search mid way through is the million $ question.

One of the few things that gives me a little - just a very little - faith in the Met is their public use of cadaver dogs during the recent searches. Maybe they didn't mean it as such, but this seems like a very public acknowledgment of their faith in this type of dog and, if that is so, it follows that they must take the original cadaver dog's alerts seriously instead of dismissing them in the way Team McCann has always done. I wonder what Kate and Gerry feel about this? It must have been rather galling to see the type of dogs they so scornfully dismissed being used by OG in these public searches.

 
Yes, they can`t dismiss the dogs.  However they know that the dogs` evidence alone is not enough to prosecute.  And with the FSS mucking up the forensics, there`s not much to go on.
 
There`s masses of circumstantial evidence but as Clarrie has said, there is a rational explanation for everything (or words to that effect).  I suppose we could all make up excuses for every discrepancy but when it probably amounts to hundreds of them - surely a jury would suss them out - or a Judge if they were to be tried in Portugal.
 
One person I hope SY have questioned is Dr. Meredith Hughes, Martin Grimes boss at the time.  For some reason GM contacted MH after the dogs had alerted. Now it would be interesting to know why he did that.
 
From Martin Grimes statement " I never met nor spoken to Gerald McCann. However I do know that he addressed my head supervisor at the time, the South Yorkshire Head of Police, or Mr. Meredith Hughes."

Gollum wrote:
Trouble is with the dog issue, everyone knows by now that the alerts alone are not admissible conclusive evidence and yet it seems to be the overriding excuse for entirely dismissing the alerts as inconsequential.  It is not inconsequential, it is (or was) a very important part of the framework for building a case and discovering the truth of Maddies fate.

PeterMac wrote:

Gollum wrote:
Trouble is with the dog issue, everyone knows by now that the alerts alone are not admissible conclusive evidence and yet it seems to be the overriding excuse for entirely dismissing the alerts as inconsequential.  It is not inconsequential, it is (or was) a very important part of the framework for building a case and discovering the truth of Maddies fate.

Try telling that to

Eugene Zapata
D’Andre Lane
Adrian Prout,
David Gilroy,
Marquis Bulloch,
Zinah Jennings
Albert Fine,
Pedro Hernandez,
Shakara Dickens,
Mike Gifford-Hull

In their cases the dogs' alerts alone WERE  admissible conclusive evidence

In their cases the dogs' alerts sent them to prison, in some cases for LIFE.
Two others are on trial in the USA for their LIVES, on the basis of dogs' alerts.
In only one of these cases was the body subsequently found.  The rest - just the dog barking.

Now do we begin to understand why the McCanns and their acolytes HAVE to dismiss the dogs' alerts ?

PeterMac wrote:

Gollum wrote:
Trouble is with the dog issue, everyone knows by now that the alerts alone are not admissible conclusive evidence and yet it seems to be the overriding excuse for entirely dismissing the alerts as inconsequential.  It is not inconsequential, it is (or was) a very important part of the framework for building a case and discovering the truth of Maddies fate.

Try telling that to

Eugene Zapata
D’Andre Lane
Adrian Prout,
David Gilroy,
Marquis Bulloch,
Zinah Jennings
Albert Fine,
Pedro Hernandez,
Shakara Dickens,
Mike Gifford-Hull

In their cases the dogs' alerts alone WERE  admissible conclusive evidence

In their cases the dogs' alerts sent them to prison, in some cases for LIFE.
Two others are on trial in the USA for their LIVES, on the basis of dogs' alerts.
In only one of these cases was the body subsequently found.  The rest - just the dog barking.

Now do we begin to understand why the McCanns and their acolytes HAVE to dismiss the dogs' alerts ?

Woofer wrote:@ PeterMac -
"Eugene Zapata
D’Andre Lane
Adrian Prout,
David Gilroy,
Marquis Bulloch,
Zinah Jennings
Albert Fine,
Pedro Hernandez,
Shakara Dickens,
Mike Gifford-Hull

In their cases the dogs' alerts alone WERE  admissible conclusive evidence "

Setting aside the US cases, were the UK ones really convicted on the dogs` alerts ALONE ?

dantezebu wrote:Latest from Joana Morais: BASTA!

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Enough!

6 years with all of his assets frozen so he can pay, just in case he looses, the 1,2 million euros demanded by the McCann couple for the "rights, freedoms and guarantees of the family" that were violated, as they allege by a book and a documentary, based on the same title, which they were able to ban in a connected lawsuit.

A book, they claim, which has interfered in the searches for the child. Searches which would have had another outcome if only Kate McCann had answered the 48 questions asked by the PJ, or if, they had done the reconstruction requested by the PJ in 2007, or if the couple had not omitted to the PJ investigation the e-fits that were suppressed since 2008, which were only released last year, in October, by the Metropolitan Police. Not to mention the multiple interferences of spin doctors and illegal private detectives who boycotted the PJ investigation with red herrings, with impunity.

Meantime to save his family from further property losses, Gonçalo Amaral got divorced. He lost his father, became ill, poor to the point of only getting by with the help of friends. His lawyer is being paid with a defence fund that we, PJGA (http://pjga.blogspot.com/), created in 2009, whose donations come mostly from English people.

The trial which continues this Monday, has also held sessions during 2013, sessions that were not properly addressed and divulged by the Portuguese media.

From the witnesses inquired in favour of the McCann couple follows that:

1) The Mccann couple has people monitoring the social networking sites who besiege those, like me, who impart opinions or make translations about the case;

2) That most witnesses have never read the process and only echo the couple's mantra;

3) That the McCann couple is vindictive and wishes above all to see Gonçalo Amaral suffer, seemingly even more than they wish to know what happened to Madeleine (as if they don't know it already)

Kate and Gerry who didn't even came to accompany the Metropolitan Police search for their daughter's remains, are however already in Portugal to attend the trial on Monday, according to a resident journalist in Luz.

And I quote: "He deserves to be miserable and feel fear." Kate McCann's own words in the book titled 'madeleine', written exactly like that without a capital letter.

The Portuguese mainstream media also failed to report the fact that the McCanns, following the poor performance of their witnesses, asked the four defendant parts - Gonçalo Amaral, TVI, Guerra e Paz and Valentim de Carvalho Produções for an out-of-court settlement, reason why the trial was postponed.

They have also failed to report that the Judge considered that Kate and Gerry McCann did not possess authorization to initiate proceedings against Gonçalo Amaral on behalf of their daughter, because the child was placed under the tutelage of a British court, ie a 'Ward of Court'.


I wish to clearly state here, that I consider guilty for the destruction of this man's life the McCann couple, Clarence Mitchell, Salvador da Cunha's Lift Consulting (McCanns PR's in Portugal), Dr. Isabel Duarte and Dr. Rogério Alves, and also the Portuguese state, politicians from both right and left wings who turned a blind eye and the PJ Directorates for allowing Gonçalo Amaral (as well as other PJ inspectors) to have been vilified, ridiculed, reduced to poverty, in what is clearly a revolting case of injustice.

My solidarity is with Gonçalo Amaral and his family, and all those who were victims of this couple, a couple who should have been, at least, taken to court for exposure and abandonment, ie for their negligence.

This is my opinion as a Portuguese citizen, "so sue me McCann"!

IKNOWWHATHAPPENED wrote:I suspect Katie and the wee man will be cantankerous when they read Joanas article.