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Andrew77R wrote:

@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:

Andrew77R wrote:

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Sorry for going off course (ouch!) - I actually know who Morten Harket is but not that he is apparently touchy. What's that about?

A-Ha Song.

Touch me.

I think you're thinking of 'Take On Me'.

A-Ha! released a song called 'Touchy' I believe.

That's the one. Confused myself there.

Got a few A-Ha albums knocking about as well somewhere collecting dust.

@sharonl wrote:In haste at the moment, I will post more later,  but if I remember correctly, both Gerry & his mother are  linked to the committee of the Malahide Golf club in Ireland.

@Ladyinred wrote:CynicAl - what do you think happened to Madeleine?

Found the answer:

"I'm still going with accidental death, with damage management. 

Although I did wonder whether there was evidence supporting the possibility that this was a family-controlled euthanasia of a terminally ill youngster?"

@CynicAl wrote:

@Ladyinred wrote:CynicAl - what do you think happened to Madeleine?

Found the answer:

"I'm still going with accidental death, with damage management. 

Although I did wonder whether there was evidence supporting the possibility that this was a family-controlled euthanasia of a terminally ill youngster?"

I'd be happy to see GA resume his investigation. If anyone has anything at stake betting on a narrative, its him. I'll go with what can be plausibly documented as fact over speculation and anything bigger than that, without clear evidence, is conspiracy theory. Let GA run his course. I value his understanding more than any armchair investigator on a web forum.

@By Numbers wrote:I can't believe more of an issue wasn't made of the fact that the hire car was driven by a keen golfer from Rothley, who claims to have been unacquainted with Gerry previously (in the only car which generated positive cadaver identification and also the only car whose boot had been left open for days on end).


However, I'm inclined to believe that it's just an amazing coincidence because there were incredibly long posts about something to do with earthquakes and mention of "forensics" that convinced me that it was ridiculous to think this was something worth questioning. I'm now worried that if I ever leave the country, everyone I know will be killed by an earthquake. There's never been one here and now it looks like the reason is solely down to me being here.

@By Numbers wrote:I can't believe more of an issue wasn't made of the fact that the hire car was driven by a keen golfer from Rothley, who claims to have been unacquainted with Gerry previously (in the only car which generated positive cadaver identification and also the only car whose boot had been left open for days on end).


However, I'm inclined to believe that it's just an amazing coincidence because there were incredibly long posts about something to do with earthquakes and mention of "forensics" that convinced me that it was ridiculous to think this was something worth questioning. I'm now worried that if I ever leave the country, everyone I know will be killed by an earthquake. There's never been one here and now it looks like the reason is solely down to me being here.

@plebgate wrote:

TexMac wrote:

@tigger wrote:

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

@TozerDerry wrote:
Now the conspiracy sounds fine but by assuming the opposite, one finds a perfectly rational and uninteresting explanation.

I think I'll be the judge of what I consider interesting or otherwise, thanks very much.

Well TD, it would possibly uninteresting weren't it for the fact that itjust happened to be Walkden's hire car where thefigures didn't add up.
Add to that iirc that Walkden apparently said he didn't know  Gerry McCann despite the  fact that they are members of the same golf club, possibly the same lodge.

Well, they certainly know each other now by the looks of it.   

"they certainly know each other now by the looks of it" - it seems that an assumption is being made that the picture shows Gerry with Walkden.  I can't see where it tells us that, in fact it seems more likely that it is Gerry with Spillane.  Also, I don't see anything in the article to let me conclude that they certainly know each other now - all it mentions is that Walkden caddied for Spillane, and then separately says Danny (Spillane) was joined for these by Gerry.  I think we have jumped to conclusions with this.

http://www.rothleypark.co.uk/theteam.htm

@By Numbers wrote:

@CynicAl wrote:

@Ladyinred wrote:CynicAl - what do you think happened to Madeleine?

Found the answer:

"I'm still going with accidental death, with damage management. 

Although I did wonder whether there was evidence supporting the possibility that this was a family-controlled euthanasia of a terminally ill youngster?"

I'd be happy to see GA resume his investigation. If anyone has anything at stake betting on a narrative, its him. I'll go with what can be plausibly documented as fact over speculation and anything bigger than that, without clear evidence, is conspiracy theory. Let GA run his course. I value his understanding more than any armchair investigator on a web forum.

Um, how is it you get clear evidence if you're not allowed to ask questions, again?

@CynicAl wrote:

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

@TozerDerry wrote:
Again- was Gerry Mccann a member of that Golf Club in 2007.

Why don't you use your forensic method and prove that he wasn't.

Oh, come on...

When we get into the childish 'prove that my assertion ISN'T true' territory, that's when things go wildly askew.

Prove that Steven Spielberg wasn't in PDL in May 2007 filming a 'special commission' on behalf of a billionaire client who was obsessed with young blonde girls called Maddie...

I said it. Up to you to prove it isn't true.

Right?

@MrsC wrote:

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
This subject seems to have got everybody touchier than Morten Harket.

I was just thinking the very same.

Andrew77R wrote:
When the PJ checked previous renters of the Renault Scenic 59-DA-27, they were asked a number of questions, including whether they knew the McCann family. The driver but one before the McCannswas Kenneth Walkden, who was interviewed on April 29th 2008. He hired the car between March 25th and April 1st 2007 for a golfing holiday with some friends. The distance travelled in the car was945km. [/color][/size][/justify]

He doesn’t say which golf course they were playing on, but the Boavista or Parque da Floresta may have been amongst the possible destinations. The trip was organised by his friend P S and Mr Walkdensaid that they all went on holiday together every year.  Maybe to the same venue? The Scenic was also used by a number of golfers other than the Walkden party.


Mr Walkden  told the PJ:

“I am not familiar with any member of the McCann family. Neither do I know any of them.” 

I’m sure by this time he knew exactly who the McCann family were and where they lived. Hardly a soul in the UK or Portugal didn’t know who they were by 2008. But he didn’t know them personally it seems.

Mr Walkden happened to be a member of the exclusive and prestigious Rothley Park Golf Club, as did at least four members of his party. The same golf club where Gerry McCann played golf every Monday, according to an article by Anna Pukas in The Mail on January 5th 2008. 

Kate’s book is very helpful, as she confirms Gerry joined the Rothley Park Golf Club before she started her IVF treatment, which means Gerry had been a member for at least 5 years when Mr Walkden made his statement.  She also states that Gerry had been to play golf in Portugal a couple of times, dates unspecified, in her book.  Gerry, in contrast, claims to have played golf in Albufeira only once in 1994, according to his PJ statement. Why golf-mad Gerry didn’t even mention the word when describing their holiday activities is a continuing puzzle. 

 Returning to Mr Walkden, would a more accurate answer  have been along the lines of ..? 

“I don’t know Mr McCann personally, but I now know he’s a member of my golf club.”

 Not necessarily something the club wanted to advertise perhaps, but true.

Or maybe the first time they met was the Summer Event in July 2011, as part of the club’s Centenary celebrations. Gerry was there and so was Mr Walkden. Another one of those “fancy that” momentswhen they discovered they had both used the same hire car in 2007?

Dee Coy wrote:@sharonl. Ah! The wigan link!

Tony Bennett reckoned Cristobell's poster called him from a Wigan number. Been looking for a connection.

@Tony Bennett wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:@sharonl. Ah! The wigan link!

Tony Bennett reckoned Cristobell's poster called him from a Wigan number. Been looking for a connection.

The STD code was 01942, which covers Wigan and some villages around, I believe

@Tony Bennett wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:@sharonl. Ah! The wigan link!

Tony Bennett reckoned Cristobell's poster called him from a Wigan number. Been looking for a connection.

The STD code was 01942, which covers Wigan and some villages around, I believe

@margaret wrote:

@Tony Bennett wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:@sharonl. Ah! The wigan link!

Tony Bennett reckoned Cristobell's poster called him from a Wigan number. Been looking for a connection.

The STD code was 01942, which covers Wigan and some villages around, I believe

I didn't know about this, have one of you got a link to where this was discussed please?

@HelenMeg wrote:What I think would think needed exploring was whether Ken did actually know Gerry and if so, why did he want to deny the relationship. In the same way, did Gerry know RM and why did he want to deny the relationship.

Why would Ken wish to say he didnt know Gerry if  he did know him through Rothley Park Golf Club. Time and time again it seems that someone is trying to hide a wider circle of
connections. There is clearly a lot of business in PDL which is being sought out and developed by UK business men e.g. Vigia Group (started by 4 Leicester business men).  
There has been much development of luxury apartments with golfing links. To me, it seems as if there may be attempts to get groups of people out there to see if they wish to invest in purchase of apartments in the area. They have a company go in there to develop communications between apartments with video channels etc . When you research it which I did a few months ago - it is pretty big and interesting stuff. Seems to be developed by UK business men with links to Leicester. Anyway, this was explored a little on car hire thread

@Praia wrote:AFAIK BOD has nothing to do with that agency in Lagos, it's a common surname.