Now shown on Channel 5: 'THE McCANNS AND THE CONMAN'
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Re: Now shown on Channel 5: 'THE McCANNS AND THE CONMAN'
Tim [?] the British guy, said she may have been over- eager to help [ implication mistaken] but the American guy listened to her voice and I am sure he said she became more of an actress... did I hear him correctly?
Secretly recording JT.... I wonder what she thinks if this is the first she has heard of it?
Secretly recording JT.... I wonder what she thinks if this is the first she has heard of it?
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@phil_burton wrote:Well to us they've called her a liar, but why didn't they mention she'd already positively IDed another man - Murat - before positively IDing some else who looks nothing like Murat!
They have discredited her as a witness, but I agree that they should have mentioned her positively IDing RM.
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@Shhh wrote:Totally agree@frost wrote:im not finding this comfortable viewing tbh , have they even got permission to show these photos of people that they had under surveillance especially the ones of children they have taken if I was a parent and I was sat watching this and my childs picture came up I would be furious
it shows the lengths certain people went to... wish they could have narrated this without the visuals.
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I have just switched it off. Went to a lot of trouble to receive this and it is such rubbish. I didn't really expect anything more from Ch 5, it such an almighty con, a programme about nothing except suggestion, misinformation and frankly downright lies.
I am just dismayed that people will watch this and believe the t*sh they show.
I am just dismayed that people will watch this and believe the t*sh they show.
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enter stage left.... SMITHMAN. When will we hear that Tannerman was dropped by SY?
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I'm trying to keep an open mind about where this is heading, but my nose is leading me to a manure-like smell...
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The ginger bloke is very bitter IMHOIMHO
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£700 lunches ? who the hell was he feeding the whole of Praia da Luz ?
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Wish my iPad would stop doing that ^^ sorry
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David Payne: “We know they didn’t do it. One of our party saw Madeleine being abducted. We were waiting for something to happen but didn't in our worst nightmare think it would be this."@sofieellis wrote:@phil_burton wrote:Well to us they've called her a liar, but why didn't they mention she'd already positively IDed another man - Murat - before positively IDing some else who looks nothing like Murat!
They have discredited her as a witness, but I agree that they should have mentioned her positively IDing RM.

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He's got a blue holdall
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@frost wrote:£700 lunches ? who the hell was he feeding the whole of Praia da Luz ?
Have you seen the price of sea bass over there?

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There are positives.
They said the the arguido status was dropped - not the McCanns cleared as is usual.
I am also hopeful about Exxton - especially given the Times article.
They said the the arguido status was dropped - not the McCanns cleared as is usual.
I am also hopeful about Exxton - especially given the Times article.
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WHO was the posh ginger bloke that looked like Prince Harry ?
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Tim nice but dim?@Harriet94 wrote:WHO was the posh ginger bloke that looked like Prince Harry ?
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@Harriet94 wrote:WHO was the posh ginger bloke that looked like Prince Harry ?
Tim Craig -Harvey, I think Tony posted about him earlier today.
btw did the American guy say that when listening to JT secret recording he found that the more she went on the more of an actress she became, or the more inaccurate ?
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@NickE wrote:David Payne: “We know they didn’t do it. One of our party saw Madeleine being abducted. We were waiting for something to happen but didn't in our worst nightmare think it would be this."@sofieellis wrote:@phil_burton wrote:Well to us they've called her a liar, but why didn't they mention she'd already positively IDed another man - Murat - before positively IDing some else who looks nothing like Murat!
They have discredited her as a witness, but I agree that they should have mentioned her positively IDing RM.
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"We were waiting for something to happen but didn't in our worst nightmare think it would be this."
WTF? They were "waiting for something to happen". Why?
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That was said at the time the Mccanns were made arguidos. I think that there have been misunderstandings about it in the past
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Well I would be very grateful if someone could give me a precis of the programme, or at least their opinions of something learned that may be of value.
I cannot sit and watch it, it appears to be a conglomeration of reports and impressions from rather unsuitable and untrustworthy characters.
I might well have got it wrong, I am admittedly biased, and this is of course is imo.
I cannot sit and watch it, it appears to be a conglomeration of reports and impressions from rather unsuitable and untrustworthy characters.
I might well have got it wrong, I am admittedly biased, and this is of course is imo.
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and here is Smithman.... e fits hidden for 5 years....no explanation for why.... but
an invitation to phone Grange !
TANNERMAN BINNED..... SMITHMAN OF VITAL SIGNIFICANCE.
So frustrating that we did not hear why
an invitation to phone Grange !
TANNERMAN BINNED..... SMITHMAN OF VITAL SIGNIFICANCE.
So frustrating that we did not hear why
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Well for all that, I liked the final shot and message re undisclosed efits of (vital?) significance.
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Suppressed efits right at the end there???
I'm left slightly confused by the point of that program
I'm left slightly confused by the point of that program
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I've just wasted nearly 60 minutes of my life there. And the whole point of that programme was...?
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@Shhh wrote:Suppressed efits right at the end there???
I'm left slightly confused by the point of that program
lol me too
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The jist is Mr Halligen is a con and Grange are brilliant. The cost of the operation has been adjusted to £5million. Money well spent dont you think?
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