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Post by Sparklehorse on 21.05.14 9:47

Andrew77R wrote:Just playing catch up here (again).

So is it only the 'Herald Scotland' paper that has reported this new campaign news yesterday? Has it come from anywhere else at all?

Is the Herald Scotland one of the main newspapers in Scotland and is it a credible one? 

Earlier on yesterday we have the Times article using the word 'Murder' which gets us lot even more optimistic and team McCannn in a bit of a panic, judging by the shills response on twitter. 

Then later on the same day we have this new campaign news that distracts people from the 'murder' quote earlier, puts the McCanns (Kate) in a positive light again. Gets all us lot pessimistic again etc etc.

A very convenient coincidence don't you think?

Not the first time it's happened. Trying to instantly whoosh a negative and replace it with a positive...


Andrew - As far as I know Herald Scotland used to be Glasgow Herald it's content is a bit more "upmarket" than the red tops. It's main circulation is South West Scotland. I suspect it is probably not above the usual spinning though.
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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by Guest on 21.05.14 10:01

Châtelaine wrote:Have a look at the Wales Online facebookpage. The comments are quite outspoken ...
Some comments copied and pasted.


  • Laura Sian North I feel deeply for carol but I'm sorry I don't for McCanns they were asking for trouble neglecting the children in room on their own in foreign country. I'm not at all heartless but big difference between the two carol didn't neglect
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  • Helen Kirsty Antcliff Love to Coral Jones and her family. X
    Madeleline McCann, unfortunately, did not have such loving parents as April did. 
    The official police files are available for everyone to read. Please make your own mind up after reading them. The McCanns admit lea...See More
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  • Lisa White With any justice Mrs McCann is enjoying the last of the limelight!! Never once did Mrs Jones try to hinder the investigation Into her daughter, but then she had nothing to hide !!! Sympathy? The McCanns make my skin crawl !!
    37 · 11 hours ago




  • Zowie Vaughan What about Ben needhams mum ?? Her boy was snatched from her parents garden while she worked , she doesn't get all the funding the mcanns do for the search of her little boy
    37 · 12 hours ago




  • Linda Kent Coral, wish you had teamed up with Help Find Ben Needham
    35 · 11 hours ago




  • Natalie Jones I feel sorry for carol as some sicko took her child, Kate mccann however is a different story
    31 · 12 hours ago




  • Debra Rush My lordy the Mccanns will stop at nothing, getting into the Media when it suits them...only last week they slammed the Media for interfering...these 2 are makin a mockery and joke out of the system,,,to climb on Coral Jones is below the lowest.....Kate you vile mother tell us the truth!! its only time and your lies will surface to the world
    30 · 11 hours ago




  • Zowie Vaughan All my sympathy for Coral but none for the mcanns they lucky they got any children left
    30 · 12 hours ago




  • Dianne Lloyd Well said Zowie..Ben Needhams mum dosen,t seem to get any recognition at all ..no money, no interest.
    29 · 12 hours ago




  • Hannah Bedford I find it difficult to feel sorry for the mcanns as they went out quite far away from their children and left them in a room in a foreign country ... As a mother I would never leave my child to go out for meals/drinks!! As previously stated coral had to deal with a completely different set of circumstances, every mothers worst nightmare a child getting taken and murdered by a pedophile! This women sat in a court room and had to endure months of heartache, listening to what happened to her child through no fault of her own!! Full respect to the women she deserves the sympathy
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  • Wendy Jenkins McCanns shouldn't have left 3 under. 5s night after night but it's everyone else's fault apart from there's ! I do not believe a word they have said and the police files are all in the net to read. ... The public are turning 
    There is no comparison here my heart goes out to coral but not Kate
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    • Beryl Spilsbury l agree Wendy. Never once have they admitted it was their fault. Their arrogance astounds me. What astounds me equally is the fact Kate is ambassador for missing children!
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  • Beryl Spilsbury Such a worthwhile organization as Missing People is, could lose a lot of support by making Kate McCann an ambassador.
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  • Laura Sian North No I'm sorry but How can u feel for a couple who chose to b selfish and go out and leave their kids in room alone etc so no I don't because it's their fault as much as it the people who took innocent maddie!!!!!. They jus seem to have no emotion at the loss of their child. It's neglect no ways about it.
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  • Claire Fryer Agreed Linda Kent!! It's the Mccanns fault that their daughter is missing... most think they had something to do with it and until proven otherwise they r still suspects and should nt be allowed to represent the other families!!
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  • Nici Lou Jones Being dignified would not stay in the public eye when they know they're being criticised because they were unable to care for their child. Yes it's sad that Madeline was taken from her siblings and extended family but it wasn't from her parents it was from an empty appartment in a place she didn't know were she wasn't looked after properly. The best thing Kate McCann could do is stay out of the public eye and stop trying to make herself look good and craving attention when she could have stopped this before it happened by just being there for her daughter as a mother should. May sound nasty but if they find Maddie I hope they give her new parents that dont leave her in a position that she can be kidnapped and they should really have questioned whether it was safe to leave the other children in their care! To make it worse they lied to police because they knew they did wrong and the few days the police were concentrating on their lies they could have been the key into finding Maddie. Like I said earlier if it was another mother and father that weren't middle class the children would have been taken away.
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  • Michelle Lynchhttps://m.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoCONTROVERSYofMadeleineMcCann/

    HiDeHo CONTROVERSY of Madeleine McCann


    • We are a PRO-MADELEINE Facebook Group. OPEN TO VIEW THE PURPOSE OF THIS GROUP....

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  • Jade-Louise Tough Mcscams will get none of my sympathy. I sympathise with maddie and the situation her family put her in when they were meant to be her family who she trusted and loved. And my heart goes go out to April Jones' mother- very much so
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  • Kim Foley Joined forces? Kate McCan left 3 young children under the age of 5 alone at night in a foreign country so she could go out with hubby and have a meal/drink. They are disgusting! Why haven't they been investigated by social services for neglect? If I left my kids to go out down the shop and people found out I'd have no end of shit. What they did is not right and I believe they played a part in little maddies disappearance. They are a joke!
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  • Emma Mitchell I find it offensive to see a picture of Aprils mum alongside that woman.
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  • Lorraine Evans OMG for God's Sake Even if you don't agree with what the Mcanns did or the other families they were with there, Surely to God you must still feel for the Couple ...... We have all done things that we later regret, thankfully it has never resulted in the disappearance of our children..
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    • Dot Hegarty The McCanns just make my blood boil
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    • Lisa Banks Have you ever left your child/children on their own, night after night whilst you go out socialising because I damn well know that I haven't, I haven't put my children's or grandchildren's lives at stake, there's a huge difference in 'doing something you later regret' and being negligent with your child/children.
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  • Hannah Bedford Coral you get my full respect your such a strong women after all the terrible heartache you have been through ... Bless you and your family xxx
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  • Nici Lou Jones These two cases are majorly different. April was abducted by someone she knew and trusted and the family thought they knew and could trust. She wasn't abducted by a complete stranger she was close to home with friends somwhere she knew her way round and had played loads of times before and had gone home safely loads of times before. There was a 14 minute delay between when April was last seen and the phonecall to the police being done to say she had been kidnapped. I live close to were April lived and within 2 hours of that phonecall being made there were pictures circulated of April within a 100 miles through social media sites. Within that time aswell people travelled to search for her with the friends/family and police. April's mum didn't hinder the investigation by lying to the police or wasting crucial time. Maddie was left unattended sleeping in a foreign country were she did not know anyone and didn't know her way round. There was over an hour and a half between the last time when Maddie was seen and the phonecall to the police being made. Like I said in this time April was all over the news and social media as being missing and people were searching for her. Maddies parents lied about facts that could have helped just to cover their own arses. You really can't compare the two women.
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  • Jean Wainman Ridley Wallace McCanns GUILTY as Sin
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  • Claire Anderson Both needless deaths, my daughters nearly five and not allowed out to play alone. At such young ages they should be with parents at all times.not left alone or let out alone with other kids at such young ages. You don't know who's about. 2 tragic needless deaths
    15 · 11 hours ago




  • Nathan Cadman Fair dos to Coral, respect 
    15 · 13 hours ago




  • Enid's Selling Page Does anyone remember the parents hiring a car after Madeleline went missing & the police found hair belonging to Madeleline in the boot & the money people donated to go towards looking for that lil girl went to pay for the McCanns mortgage.
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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by Tony Bennett on 21.05.14 10:04

@russiandoll wrote:I am not sure if what you claim is fact

 "dark, 200 yards away, unsupervised".

If it was dusk, not dark, if April was closer to home, if she was with older children [ e.g. 10 year olds], then maybe the error of judgment was not so bad. It was light enough for children to describe the vehicle iirc when she was snatched...
I will reply by:

1.  stating that sunset in Machynlleth on 1 October 2012 was about 6.40pm  

2.  stating that I do not know the exact time at which Mark Bridger put April into his van but from all the accounts I believe this to have been after 7.00pm

3.  reproducing this account from one of the media reports of the trial:

 
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April's best friend, seen in pre-recorded video evidence, said the five-year-old went willingly and did not cry.

Mold Crown Court watched footage of the seven-year-old being interviewed by police the day after April went missing.

The girl said she saw April getting into a grey Land Rover and that she had seen it before.

On Friday, the court had seen CCTV footage showing Mark Bridger's Land Rover passing a garage in Machynlleth, mid-Wales, on the day she went missing, with April allegedly in the back.

Mark Bridger, 47, denies abducting and murdering her. He also denies intending to pervert the course of justice by disposing of, concealing or destroying April's body.

Bridger says he killed April accidentally when he ran her over in the car.

He claims he then put her into the front of the vehicle and drove around the town looking for medical help. He says he cannot remember what he did with her body.

Speaking about the person in the vehicle, her friend said: "He got out of the van and was waiting outside the van for someone".

April got in through the "drivers way" and then sat in the back seat. "She wasn't crying, she was happy," the young witness said.

The vehicle then drove off, the court heard.

The accused, Mark Bridger, shook his head when the girl said the man with the Land Rover had green or blue eyes and brown hair, and was probably wearing a green jacket.

"It wasn't that dark and I could see he had brown hair because the headlights were on," she said.

The girl also described how April's brother later came looking for his sister to take her home and how the alarm was raised.

Her interview with police was played to the jury as the girl watched on a live video-link from Aberystwyth, sitting with a white teddy bear and a mug of juice.

April Jones disappeared while playing with her friend near their homes in Machynlleth, Powys on October 1 last year.

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If that doesn't answer your points, please feel free to bring further factual points to this thread and continue the debate

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Post by whatliesbehindthesofa on 21.05.14 10:07

I don't know why any of this matters, I feel nothing but sympathy for Coral Jones.

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Post by The Rooster on 21.05.14 10:12

Whitewash whitewash whitewash... Fed up of hearing it. What a negative stance to take. If you want to whitewash you don't air the dirty laundry in public. When people get positive things change!

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Post by Guest on 21.05.14 10:15

@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:I don't know why any of this matters, I feel nothing but sympathy for Coral Jones.
Me too.

However i think the point to it is that everyone has a lot of sympathy for Coral Jones plus family and rightly so. The sympathy towards the McCanns is dwindling rapidly. 

You rarely see positive comments now in relation to the McCanns. Apart from the paid network of shills of course.

The great British public as a whole are changing there perception of the McCanns. That is surely a good thing.

It's just sad that the McCanns have to latch onto other genuine cases. Insult is a better word.

I wonder what Coral really thinks of Kate.
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Post by Tangled Web on 21.05.14 10:19

@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:I don't know why any of this matters, I feel nothing but sympathy for Coral Jones.

We all feel sympathy for Coral Jones. It's just that it's not acceptable (imo) to have a five year old playing out unsupervised. Obviously, Coral Jones couldn't predict what would happen but, in this day and age, there's so much traffic on the roads that she was at risk of being knocked down if nothing else. I can't imagine what Coral Jones has been through, all we are trying to say is that April shouldn't have been out without an adult and that's perfectly resonable.

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Post by Garrincha on 21.05.14 10:34

The tenor & content of those Wales Online comments are really striking - I’d estimate 99% are critical of TM

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Post by angusallan on 21.05.14 10:42

@Sparklehorse wrote:
Andrew77R wrote:Just playing catch up here (again).

So is it only the 'Herald Scotland' paper that has reported this new campaign news yesterday? Has it come from anywhere else at all?

Is the Herald Scotland one of the main newspapers in Scotland and is it a credible one? 

Earlier on yesterday we have the Times article using the word 'Murder' which gets us lot even more optimistic and team McCannn in a bit of a panic, judging by the shills response on twitter. 

Then later on the same day we have this new campaign news that distracts people from the 'murder' quote earlier, puts the McCanns (Kate) in a positive light again. Gets all us lot pessimistic again etc etc.

A very convenient coincidence don't you think?

Not the first time it's happened. Trying to instantly whoosh a negative and replace it with a positive...


Andrew -  As far as I know Herald Scotland used to be Glasgow Herald it's content is a bit more "upmarket" than the red tops. It's main circulation is South West Scotland. I suspect it is probably not above the usual spinning though.
The Herald circulation is the Glasgow area.You can of course buy it all over Scotland.The former title is bit of a clue.It is a great newspaper.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 21.05.14 10:54

@The Rooster wrote:Whitewash whitewash whitewash... Fed up of hearing it.  What a negative stance to take.  If you want to whitewash you don't air the dirty laundry in public. When people get positive things change!
Everyone who has ever alleged a government cover-up is 'just being negative'? 

I guess, Rooster, that you must be among those who sincerely believe that six years after Madeleine went missing, DCI Andy Redwood's brilliance really did result in a bloke coming forward who:

* hadn't bothered to inform anyone before that he had been taking his child home, on his own, no female accompanying him, without a pushchair or buggy, from a creche at exactly 9.15pm, right by Apartmnt G5A

* was walking the wrong way from the creche i.e. taking a longer route than necessary

* happened to have a blonde girl of the same age as Madeleine

* who was wearing white/pink pyjamas exactly like Madeleine's, which he'd kept for 6 years

* normally walked about Praia da Luz on holiday in a dark jacket and light-coloured trousers, just like the description given by Jane Tanner

* is unwilling to say who he is.


I suppose it's 'negative' to question Redwood's claim?

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Post by tasprin on 21.05.14 10:58

Ladyinred wrote:When April Jones went missing a nation-wide child rescue alert went into action for the first time.  Sadly, April was not found alive but Bridger, her killer, was traced quickly.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/oct/02/april-jones-child-rescue-alert

It would be interesting to read the police's research and evaluation of this new scheme when/if it is published.

Incidentally, Bridger was known to the family.  April's father's sister had a relationship with him and they had two children together.

I had no idea Bridger had two children with April's aunt? So, it wasn't a stranger abduction, he was more or less family. Maybe there's no marriage certificate but his children are her cousins and he'd be her uncle. The press referred to Tia Sharp's killer (grandmother's boyfriend) as her step-grandfather, a step too far imo, but in April's case there was a real familial relationship. She must have known him well and trusted him, as must the rest of the family, , poor little girl, poor family. He could have lured her away from anywhere at any time.

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Post by aquila on 21.05.14 10:59

Digital Media and Social Networking the big push for Missing People.

Kate McCann at the helm as the face that launches.

Kate McCann is teamed up with Coral Jones and photographed with Claudia Lawrence's father in the run up to Forget me Not campaign.

Missing People charity endorsed by the UK government, the UK Police and CEOP appoint Kate McCann as ambassador.

UK Police investigating disappearance of Madeleine McCann tells UK public the McCanns are not persons of interest.

UK Police produce 2 different reconstructions for CrimeWatch.

UK Police travel to Portugal to be photographed in a helicopter.

UK Police think tank (London) produces report that too much money and resources being spent on missing person cases (Met spends £40 million) and imply 'other agencies' could deal with this.

Charity Missing People responds to UK Police think tank on their website hoping to enter into dialogue.

Charity Missing People launch Child Rescue alert which will/only expects to send out 4 to 6 alerts per year and not all will be nationwide.

Digital Media used by Missing People state that in four locations within UK their digital media boards will feature 4 persons per week. Do the maths.

Results of fundraising activities not published on 'award winning' website of Missing People.

Specific results of missing people found as a direct result of digital media not published.

I could go on....
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Post by Tony Bennett on 21.05.14 11:00

Andrew77R wrote:Just playing catch up here (again).

So is it only the 'Herald Scotland' paper that has reported this new campaign news yesterday? Has it come from anywhere else at all?

By way of further reply, this link shows that the story is being covered quite widely; it was also featured extensively on 1 May, which maybe why some news media haven't covered it again this time round:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=kate+mccann+missing+people+million&oq=kate+mccann+missing+people+million&gs_l=news-cc.1.0.43j43i53.24956.31504.0.36010.34.8.0.26.0.1.276.856.5j2j1.8.0...0.0...1ac.1.bvxk0_ejk3Q

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Post by Guest on 21.05.14 11:03

Tasprin, the family link was mentioned early on but then disappeared so maybe it was found to be incorrect. If I recall correctly, the mother of two of Bridger's children wasn't April's father's sister, but the sister of the mother of two of April's father's other children.

It sounds like one of those ending up as your own grandpa scenarios!

Quite possibly, if the details are correct, April might have regarded Bridger as her uncle though he was no relation to her.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 21.05.14 11:14

@aquila wrote:Missing People charity endorsed by the UK government, the UK Police and CEOP appoint Kate McCann as ambassador.

Charity Missing People responds to UK Police think tank on their website hoping to enter into dialogue.

Charity Missing People launch Child Rescue alert which will/only expects to send out 4 to 6 alerts per year and not all will be nationwide.

I could go on....

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Missing People had an income of over £1.3 million last year, which included government grants, lottery funding and sizeable grants from a number of charitable foundations.

Its current net assets exceed £1 million.

It is not so much known for finding missing children or people but for providing support and counselling to those who have a loved one who has gone missing.

In that respect I feel sure that many individuals would describe it as 'invaluable' to be able to talk to someone on such a 'telephone lifeline' - Claudia Lawrence's father has said as much, for example



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2017 (February) Dr Kate McCannthrust into a global bidding war…news giants battle to sign her up for the 10th anniversary…offered huge bids…bombarded with offers…30 sitting on the table…getting new bids every other day…one told Kate and Gerry: ‘Name your price!’
                        

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Post by jeanmonroe on 21.05.14 11:19

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

Funnily enough, the nearest thing to child pornography I have ever personally seen is scantily clad six year olds gyrating like lap dancers on Big Fat Gypsy Weddings. As the Americans might say, go figure!
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BFGW, with lots of 'scantily clad' young, and very young, girls, PRODUCED by GM's 'tennis buddy'...................JEZ WILKINS!

Such a 'small world', isn't it?

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Post by aquila on 21.05.14 11:34

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@aquila wrote:Missing People charity endorsed by the UK government, the UK Police and CEOP appoint Kate McCann as ambassador.

Charity Missing People responds to UK Police think tank on their website hoping to enter into dialogue.

Charity Missing People launch Child Rescue alert which will/only expects to send out 4 to 6 alerts per year and not all will be nationwide.

I could go on....

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Missing People had an income of over £1.3 million last year, which included government grants, lottery funding and sizeable grants from a number of charitable foundations.

Its current net assets exceed £1 million.

It is not so much known for finding missing children or people but for providing support and counselling to those who have a loved one who has gone missing.

In that respect I feel sure that many individuals would describe it as 'invaluable' to be able to talk to someone on such a 'telephone lifeline' - Claudia Lawrence's father has said as much, for example


Tony, you've snipped bits ad hoc from my post which make it read as something it's not.
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Post by wicksy on 21.05.14 11:44

Hmmm

From the Child Rescue Alert FAQs:

I’ve seen a missing child.  What should I do?
If the child is the subject of a Child Rescue Alert then immediately contact the telephone number indicated on the Child Rescue Alert itself.  This is the fastest way to get the information – which could be vital - to the police.
If the child is NOT the subject of a Child Rescue Alert, please call or text the charity Missing People on 116 000, or click here.  All contacts are free and confidential. Alternatively, contact your local police station.



So if the child is one of these elite, up to six a year, missing child with an Alert, you contact the police as this is the fastest way to get vital information to them.

If the child is only a common or garden missing child, you contact a charity. Or if you feel like it, the police.

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Post by Guest on 21.05.14 11:52

Slightly off topic.

A work associate of mine has recently shown a non MSM view on this case after discussing it over a few beers a while back. He follows this forum and has done for a while after i told him about it, although he has told me he has not joined. Yet.

Anyway, was on the phone to him earlier about something else and we got briefly chatting again about this case and his question was...

'Why is that Tony Bennett on a one man mission to convince everyone that this will be a whitewash?'.

I couldn't really answer that.

Hoping you could Tony... 

Hope you don't take this post as offensive or anything as certainly not meant to be.

Was just a genuine question which i could not answer.
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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by tasprin on 21.05.14 12:00

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Tasprin, the family link was mentioned early on but then disappeared so maybe it was found to be incorrect. If I recall correctly, the mother of two of Bridger's children wasn't April's father's sister, but the sister of the mother of two of April's father's other children.

It sounds like one of those ending up as your own grandpa scenarios!

Quite possibly, if the details are correct, April might have regarded Bridger as her uncle though he was no relation to her.

Thanks for explaining NFWTD. I was surprised when I read LIR's post as I'd never heard it before now. So, there's no strong
family connection, much more convoluted than that, but, nevertheless, it wasn't a stranger abduction and April and her family must have known and trusted him. Very sad.

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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by PeterMac on 21.05.14 12:04

Andrew77R wrote:... his question was...
'Why is that Tony Bennett on a one man mission to convince everyone that this will be a whitewash?'.
I couldn't really answer that.
Hoping you could Tony... 
Hope you don't take this post as offensive or anything as certainly not meant to be.
Was just a genuine question which i could not answer.

Whatever TB's reply, it is never bad to have a devil's advocate, forcing everyone else to think, to search for evidence to back up their position,
to challenge, with reasons, everything which is said
rather as we have done with the McCanns statements, changes of statement, lies, falsifications, prevarications, and everything else they have done and said over the last 7 years.

If TB states that he believes Grange to be a whitewash, then it is up to everyone else to provide evidence that it isn't. (or MAY not be !)

My view is clear.
I don't know.

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Post by angusallan on 21.05.14 12:09

Andrew77R wrote:Slightly off topic.

A work associate of mine has recently shown a non MSM view on this case after discussing it over a few beers a while back. He follows this forum and has done for a while after i told him about it, although he has told me he has not joined. Yet.

Anyway, was on the phone to him earlier about something else and we got briefly chatting again about this case and his question was...

'Why is that Tony Bennett on a one man mission to convince everyone that this will be a whitewash?'.

I couldn't really answer that.

Hoping you could Tony... 

Hope you don't take this post as offensive or anything as certainly not meant to be.

Was just a genuine question which i could not answer.
See Blacksmith Bureau!

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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by endgame on 21.05.14 12:14

Andrew77R wrote:Slightly off topic.

A work associate of mine has recently shown a non MSM view on this case after discussing it over a few beers a while back. He follows this forum and has done for a while after i told him about it, although he has told me he has not joined. Yet.

Anyway, was on the phone to him earlier about something else and we got briefly chatting again about this case and his question was...

'Why is that Tony Bennett on a one man mission to convince everyone that this will be a whitewash?'.

I couldn't really answer that.

Hoping you could Tony... 

Hope you don't take this post as offensive or anything as certainly not meant to be.

Was just a genuine question which i could not answer.
I think that's quite easy to answer. As far as I read Tony he only looks at what has actually happened, what has actually been said, what has actually been done. He doesn't engage in large amounts of speculation, hypothesis, conspiracy generation and wishful thinking. When you look at Operation Grange in the cold hard light of day, it has no resemblance at all to a genuine, mainstream police investigation. It's a perfectly reasonable conclusion on that basis to assume that something else is going on. Other interpretations have to assume that what we see on the surface is a front designed to disguise what is really happening behind the scenes. You take your choice!
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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by tiny on 21.05.14 12:52

@angusallan wrote:
Andrew77R wrote:Slightly off topic.

A work associate of mine has recently shown a non MSM view on this case after discussing it over a few beers a while back. He follows this forum and has done for a while after i told him about it, although he has told me he has not joined. Yet.

Anyway, was on the phone to him earlier about something else and we got briefly chatting again about this case and his question was...

'Why is that Tony Bennett on a one man mission to convince everyone that this will be a whitewash?'.

I couldn't really answer that.

Hoping you could Tony... 

Hope you don't take this post as offensive or anything as certainly not meant to be.

Was just a genuine question which i could not answer.
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why would Andrew 77r,s friend go to the blacksmiths bureau to find the answer?
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Re: Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Post by 1soapy on 21.05.14 13:05

I've never been to this other website, and not everyone here agrees with TBs views, but from hearing HERE some comments about it, could the answer be (to Tiny's question), that there could be another view/explanation there, even if it is not widely shared here? I don't think we need fear other views or conclude motives based on such, if indeed such were being considered. As PM alluded to, people can make their own minds up and take different views on board and weigh them up. No point asking the PM if the Tory's are any good, is it?

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Retired DCI Gonçalo Amaral: "The English can always present the conclusions to which they themselves arrived in 2007. Because they know, they have the evidence of what happened - they don't need to investigate anything. All this is now a mere 'show off'."

Retired murder DCI Colin Sutton: "I would also like to make the point that Operation Grange was so restricted from the start as to be destined to fail."

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley made public on national TV that Operation Grange is a complete fraud.

Ex-DCI Andy Redwood had a "revelation moment" on BBC's Crimewatch on 14th October 2013 when he announced that Operation Grange had eliminated the Tanner sighting - which opened up the 'window of opportunity', in accordance with their remit, to allow the fake abduction to happen.

Despite "irrelevant behaviour" from blood and cadaver dogs in the McCann's apartment, on Kate McCann's clothes, and in the car they hired three weeks after Maddie disappeared, Ex-Chief Inspector, Ian Horrocks, said: "The thought that Kate and Gerry McCann had anything to do with the death of their daughter is frankly preposterous."

Gerry McCann called for example to be made of 'trolls'. SKY News reporter Martin Brunt doorstepped Brenda Leyland on 2 October 2014. She was then found dead in a Leicester hotel room. Brenda paid the price. She paid with her life.

Ex-Deputy Chief Constable, Jim Gamble QPM, congratulated SKY reporter, Martin Brunt, on twitter for doorstepping Brenda Leyland on behalf of Gerry McCann.

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