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Post by Nightfly on Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:00 pm

Always trying to look for the means of removal and the sleight of hand that drew our attention away from the obvious. Reinforce an idea and make sure you keep repeating it and then debate and argue whilst everyone ignores whats in front of their eyes. I have always maintained a vehicle was used because I cant imagine anyone would attempt to carry/run away with a child over their shoulder. A car is the most obvious but it seems that sometimes answers were given before the questions were asked!
I keep wandering about something that has kept troubling me:

The pram? (double pram that was borrowed)
Who was in it and where was it pushed to?
Who got near enough to see? (A wave from the beach doesnt count except for reinforcement).

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Post by russiandoll on Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:05 pm

and maybe concentrate not on the people signing children into crèche, but people flying under the radar who were elsewhere, dealing with a child who was not at crèche  ?

 re the double buggy....we first saw it on 28th according to CW...with them when they arrived, unlike the borrowed one some days later to go to the beach.

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Post by kimHager on Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:01 pm

Yes wasn't their two buggies what happened to the first one?

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Post by kimHager on Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:04 pm

Maybe my brain is scrambled ugh I thought they had to borrow or later in the week but didn't think more of it till I saw the pics with the twins and the other Lil girl in it..

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:26 am



I wonder if this buggy was checked by Eddie?
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Post by Doug D on Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:58 am

Reading from the bewk that must be believed p48
 
‘As we were only going to be away for a week, we’d decided not to bring S & A’s double buggy with us,’
 
P57. Tuesday 1st May – Trip to beach
 
‘We borrowed a double buggy from MW to make the walk easier for S & A’
 
This is then followed by:
 
‘The weather wasn’t great: in fact on the beach it started to rain. A bit of rain is not something that bothers a Scotsman like Gerry, but S & A didn’t like the feel of the wet sand and insisted, in the way two year olds do, on being carried.’
 
Not so easy that, three little ones & a double buggy trying to get across wet (or dry) sand, with two of them demanding to be carried.
 
Anyway, it was CW that introduced the buggy at the start of the holiday.

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Post by Tangled Web on Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:33 am

@admin wrote:

I wonder if this buggy was checked by Eddie?

Maybe the buggy they took with them was 'contaminated' very early on in the holiday and was disposed of, leading them to borrow buggies from MW?

I don't believe for one moment that they didn't take a buggy/buggies with three children under four. How on earth would they have managed at the airport etc?

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Post by canada12 on Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:22 am

It should be an easy thing for the police to check - just go back to the checkin at the airport and pull up their passenger flight details and see how much luggage was checked through. Did they check a buggy? They'd be able to tell by the weight. Did they carry it on? Carry-on baggage is noted also. A baggage tag is generated for every piece of luggage. If it's a computerized baggage tag and coded, there are details. I can't imagine in this day and age of security concerns that anything is ever deleted anymore.

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Post by aquila on Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:31 am

@canada12 wrote:It should be an easy thing for the police to check - just go back to the checkin at the airport and pull up their passenger flight details and see how much luggage was checked through. Did they check a buggy? They'd be able to tell by the weight. Did they carry it on? Carry-on baggage is noted also. A baggage tag is generated for every piece of luggage. If it's a computerized baggage tag and coded, there are details. I can't imagine in this day and age of security concerns that anything is ever deleted anymore.
I seem to remember the barcoded luggage receipts were stuck to the passports photographed in Apt. 5A.
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Post by sami on Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:53 am

My experience of flying is that they allow you to take the buggy to the steps of the plane.  If you remember the bus video, one of the group had a child in a buggy on the bus, Fiona I think.  The McCanns did not have one on the bus, not set up at any rate.

The most useful purpose of not checking the buggy on as luggage is it helps you "contain" the children in the airport.  Three kids under three and two adults is hard work when they want to wander everywhere at an airport.  Neither is it logical in larger airports with long walking distances.

Whether or not the airline would allow that big three wheeler to be brought to the steps is doubtful, IMO.  The light strollers are acceptable though.

They usually tag the buggy itself but no additional tag is given if you take it to the plane.

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Post by Nina on Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:20 pm

@sami wrote:My experience of flying is that they allow you to take the buggy to the steps of the plane.  If you remember the bus video, one of the group had a child in a buggy on the bus, Fiona I think.  The McCanns did not have one on the bus, not set up at any rate.

The most useful purpose of not checking the buggy on as luggage is it helps you "contain" the children in the airport.  Three kids under three and two adults is hard work when they want to wander everywhere at an airport.  Neither is it logical in larger airports with long walking distances.

Whether or not the airline would allow that big three wheeler to be brought to the steps is doubtful, IMO.  The light strollers are acceptable though.

They usually tag the buggy itself but no additional tag is given if you take it to the plane.
That is a very good point Sami re the children at the airport and the walking distances. I fly regularly into and out of East Midlands Airport, the one the McCanns used for the holiday, and when the boarding gate information goes up there is always a dash to the gate and the distance can be a good 5 to 10 minute walk at fast pace, so how did they manage that with 3 small children beats me. Also once into the departure lounge you have not got the use of a trolley so any hand luggage also has to be either carried or wheeled. So hand luggage, and three small children without a buggy does not ring true for me.

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