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Modern art: A load of rubbish (Italy)

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Post by Tony Bennett on 20.02.14 17:02


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Post by listener on 20.02.14 20:00

The Emperors Clothes !  big grin
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Post by Guest on 20.02.14 20:12

listener, OT I know, but you like Silly Wizard too? Noticed on the favourite music thread.
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Post by worriedmum on 20.02.14 21:39

Hahaha! Funny how it was cleaners who threw it away  laughat
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Post by paradigm67 on 20.02.14 22:16

This sort of sums up my opinion on Art critics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGSYvub9R4

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Post by listener on 20.02.14 22:33

@Ladyinred wrote:listener, OT I know, but you like Silly Wizard too? Noticed on the favourite music thread.
OT  soz  (but just replying) !

"Like them"  Hmm.
The group 'Silly Wizard' was only the start! Well, that's not true - It started when Phil was 4 four and Johnny was 8 eight. Having researched the musical paths and careers of the twa brithers fae Broughton Road, I soon came to the conclusion - Johnny WAS and Phil IS...musical genii !
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Post by listener on 20.02.14 22:46

@paradigm67 wrote:This sort of sums up my opinion on Art critics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGSYvub9R4
Some folk pay loads in the belief it's art  big grin

Edit - Sorry, they pay loads to prove to 'friends' they can!
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Post by Cristobell on 20.02.14 22:56

I'm quite a fan of modern art  smilie  I don't pretend to understand it, but I like to try. Imo, if it means something to someone, it is art, and there will always be collectors who will seek out the unheimlich and the wierd and wonderful. I have to say Tracy Emmin's unmade bed and Damien Hurt's carcasses in formaldehyde are not my cup of tea, but if someone wants a dead cow in their hallway, thats up to them.

It does make us giggle when we read stories of cleaners throwing out valuable art exhibits, and long may that continue, but among the sensational pieces are the voices of the artists crying out to be heard, and I think it only polite to listen. My favourite at the moment is Grayson Perry, the cross-dressing eccentric, whose art is wonderful and whose understanding of human nature makes him a thoroughly good egg.

The artists of today are leaving a history of our time, our culture and our society for generations to come. Just as we can get a flavour of history from the works of the Old Masters, the Romantics, the cartoonists and the cave dwellers, experts in the future will also stand scratching their heads puzzling over why on earth someone created a giant penis out of papier mache, for example, I saw this at an exhibition during the newspaper strike in 1986 and it was entitled the entitled 'The Wapping Liar', and as you can see it has a story to tell.











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Post by Guest on 20.02.14 22:58

I love Grayson Perry too.  Full of humanity - did you hear his Reith Lectures, Cristobell?
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Post by Cristobell on 20.02.14 23:02

@Ladyinred wrote:I love Grayson Perry too.  Full of humanity - did you hear his Reith Lectures, Cristobell?


No, but something I will now look up LIR, many thanks. I saw his 'class' documentaries, and liked the cut of his jib!  smilie 

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Post by listener on 20.02.14 23:24

@Cristobell wrote:I'm quite a fan of modern art  smilie  I don't pretend to understand it, but I like to try.  Imo, if it means something to someone, it is art, and there will always be collectors who will seek out the unheimlich and the wierd and wonderful.  I have to say Tracy Emmin's unmade bed and Damien Hurt's carcasses in formaldehyde are not my cup of tea, but if someone wants a dead cow in their hallway, thats up to them.  

It does make us giggle when we read stories of cleaners throwing out valuable art exhibits, and long may that continue, but among the sensational pieces are the voices of the artists crying out to be heard, and I think it only polite to listen.  My favourite at the moment is Grayson Perry, the cross-dressing eccentric, whose art is wonderful and whose understanding of human nature makes him a thoroughly good egg.

The artists of today are leaving a history of our time, our culture and our society for generations to come.  Just as we can get a flavour of history from the works of the Old Masters, the Romantics, the cartoonists and the cave dwellers, experts in the future will also stand scratching their heads puzzling over why on earth someone created a giant penis out of papier mache, for example,  I saw this at an exhibition during the newspaper strike in 1986 and it was entitled the entitled 'The Wapping Liar', and as you can see it has a story to tell.

Lovely post Christobell - It's Art ! friends 
















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Post by plebgate on 21.02.14 9:11

Modern art, more like modern (F)art imo.

A cleaner once threw out cigarette ash in an ashtray in a modern art display (sumat like that  -  remember I am a pleb) lol.

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Post by PeterMac on 21.02.14 10:04

And didn't a cleaner clear away a pile of bricks once.

And was then told to put them back as he had found them.
And did so.
And people still argued that it was "art" (with a capital F ?)

Hislop once described Emin as the woman who put the "con" into conceptual art.

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Post by Mirage on 21.02.14 10:10

I find this story particularly amusing, having been to see the film "Monuments Men" yesterday. I won't give the plot away but it didn't involve a search of rubbish bins!

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Post by plebgate on 22.02.14 20:02

@PeterMac wrote:And didn't a cleaner clear away a pile of bricks once.

And was then told to put them back as he had found them.
And did so.

And people still argued that it was "art" (with a capital F ?)

Hislop once described Emin as the woman who put the "con" into conceptual art.
Did they have to show him a photo or did he do it from memory?

Have the organisers never heard of roping off the "art" and putting a notice up such as  Pleasel, pretty please Cleaners - DO NOT TOUCH.    Too easy.   titter

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Post by PeterMac on 22.02.14 21:51

Did they have to show him a photo or did he do it from memory?
It was "Modern Art" so it wasn't too difficult for him - nor anyone else for that matter.

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Post by plebgate on 23.02.14 9:09

Thanks PM.  

 Absolutely crazy that people will pay good money for that.

I could look up the meaning of it but can't be bothered, but I am surprised that the artist hasn't put a cigarette butt/pile of animal mess on it - these things are normally included in modern art for some reason. 

The artist could easily have put some bedding on it (Tracy Emin style) and called it sleeping rough.    big grin

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