Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

suzyjohnson wrote:

Lance De Boils wrote:
I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).

 
Me too, I am assuming that SY have some intelligence and are not about to makes idiots of themselves across the entire world.

Tony Bennett wrote:

suzyjohnson wrote:

Lance De Boils wrote:
I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).

 
Me too, I am assuming that SY have some intelligence and are not about to makes idiots of themselves across the entire world.

You honestly think they haven't already?

ultimaThule wrote:From Stephen Carpenter's statement; events of 4th May 2007:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm

"SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.

DCF: Yes..

SC: In Mark Warner and he asked that all the Mark Warner rooms be opened so that he could check them and asked the cleaning ladies etc. to help open all the empty apartments that were not necessarily in the Mark Warner complex, but for which they might have the keys. At this moment I also met an English man called Dave who lived in the area and helped the Ocean Club to authorise entry into all the apartments possible, some of the apartments in Gerry's block belonged to local owners and Dave helped to get the keys to these apartments so that they could check them and search them, they checked them all in a general manner."

When authorising access it would seem John Hill failed to notice that his maintenance department's collection of keys to properties in block G were missing and begs the question of when this matter came to his attention and what steps were taken to either locate the lost keys or replace them?  

In the meantime, it appears John Hill's oversight has blown the case wide open as literally anyone who was in or around Luz from the time these keys went missing may have found them and availed themselves of the opportunity to steal a child from her bed while her parents were otherwise engaged out of sight and earshot.

May we expect a further Crimewatch update with AR producing thousands of e-fits and appealing for help in identitfying all of the possible suspects?

Cristobell wrote:
JRob, apologies, I think I was a little too cryptic.  What I mean is, each family had their own keys to their own apartments - if you asked someone to check on your kids, they would need your keys as well as their own.  

Garrincha wrote:Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….

Cristobell wrote:JRob, apologies, I think I was a little too cryptic.  What I mean is, each family had their own keys to their own apartments, - if you asked someone to check on your kids, they would need your keys as well as their own.  Equally, if you wanted someone to go into your apartment while you were out, and maybe remove something, you would have to give them your keys in order for them to do so.  

j.rob wrote:

Garrincha wrote:Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….

Or maybe just a message to everyone, everywhere!

Garrincha wrote:Hello again j.rob – I find your reference to subliminal messages interesting - the details of the Express story itself do not seem to me to justify a banner headline about a “COVER UP”, so I am inclined to believe this is a “teaser” of some kind, designed to send a message to someone, somewhere….

BlackCatBoogie wrote:'...the Luz key' riddle in A Estrela de Madeleine?

As discussed in other threads...

Tony Bennett wrote:

BlackCatBoogie wrote:'...the Luz key' riddle in A Estrela de Madeleine?

As discussed in other threads...

FWIW after the famous BBC CrimeWatch McCann Show in October, DCI Andy Redwood was quoted as saying:

"Det Chief Inspector Andy Redwood says he has had calls from people who were in the Praia da Luz resort at the time of Maddie's disappearance. There are still members of our community out there who have key bits of information which will help us unlock this case," he says.

ALSO

25 May 2007, ITN interview: Gerry: "We truly believe that a member of the public holds the information to unlock where Madeleine is being kept."

1 May 2008), Interview with Nicky Campbell for Radio 5 Live Breakfast: Kate - "Madeleine's still missing and we need to get that key bit of information from somebody, erm...which will lead to us finding her."

Also (date uncertain): Gerry: "You know, clearly, the investigators are looking at all options and scenarios and that... that's the key thing; there are a host of scenarios here, er...and there... [SNIPPED] out there on a regular basis but we are in a very difficult situation because we believe someone - a member of the public - holds the key.

Cristobell wrote:
...it is impossible to disregard what could possibly be very obvious signs to the initiated.  Anyway, have been reading through McCann Files and was interested to see Gerry's reference to the 'world order' in an interview in Washington in July 2007...  

Tony Bennett wrote:

Lance De Boils wrote:I am sitting precariously on the fence when it comes to what SY are really up to and what their motives really are.

I'm waiting to see what happens in the next 3 months.

If the 7th anniversary comes and goes without any credible progess, I think I'll find it nigh on impossible to keep my balance.

In the meantime, I'm doing my best to give them the benefit of the (many) doubt(s).

I think you would make a very good defence barrister.

"Jury, unless you are absolutely sure that this Operation Grange thing is a whitewash, you cannot possibly bring in a verdict against them. The Met Police have a proud and honourable record. I rest my case".

Tony Bennett wrote:

Cristobell wrote:
...it is impossible to disregard what could possibly be very obvious signs to the initiated.  Anyway, have been reading through McCann Files and was interested to see Gerry's reference to the 'world order' in an interview in Washington in July 2007...  

The lawyer employed by the McCanns, via Metood 3, to represent murderess-of-her-own-daughter Leonor Cipriano in her accusation against Goncalo Amaral and four other PJ detectives, was Marcos Aragao Correia.

He also achieved fame by arranging the searches of the Arade Dam for Madeleine's bones in January and again in March 2008.

It may be recalled that he lied about being told by underworld sources that Madeleine had been abducted, raped, killed and thrown into the Arade Dam, then lied again by claiming that his interest in Madeleine began after he had a vision of a big man strangling a blond girl 'aged about four'. This was said to have occurred on Staurday, 5 May 2007 after his first-ever visit to a Spiritualist church, on Madeira.

He has since done a bunk to Brazil.

In 2008, he gave an interview to a journalist. I reproduced extracts of that interview in an article about Correia back in 2010. This bit may be of interest:

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The journalist then asks Aragão Correia to comment on the PJ investigation. He answered: “The information that I received as a medium didn’t allow for me to understand what the criminal’s motivation was. But information that I obtained later on - especially from consulting an excellent book by criminologist Barra da Costa - led me to believe the theory, admitted by the former PJ Chief Inspector, that the police weren’t interested in finding Maddie, nor in catching the real culprits over her disappearance. Dr Barra da Costa said in his book that there was something like a tacit plan to induce a general sense of insecurity across society, to allow for the micro-chip (a device implanted in human beings that gives out signals to track down where they are) to be produced on a major scale.

“At the beginning I had some reservations concerning that issue, because I had never heard about it, but I was interested enough to go on the internet and to consult several credible websites, including FBI and CIA sources, where I found some amazing things: the micro-chip was indeed being promoted as the ideal weapon to prevent crime. These sources added that the population should be induced into accepting this technological revolution, even if it was at the eexpense of a policy of deliberatley promoting mass public insecurity. Well, the Maddie case fell like ‘manna from heaven’ for the promotion of the microchip, especially as far as children are concerned”. 

Carrry On Doctor wrote:Should qualify the above by saying this seems extremely unlikely to me !

plebgate wrote:If and when the three burglars/workers with keys or anyone else is ever arrested and charged then we have to remember that Mr. & Mrs. and their friends will have to give evidence.   We have said it before, the courts believe first statements.    What will the defence barrister and the jury make of it all????????

Tony Bennett wrote:

Cristobell wrote:
...it is impossible to disregard what could possibly be very obvious signs to the initiated.  Anyway, have been reading through McCann Files and was interested to see Gerry's reference to the 'world order' in an interview in Washington in July 2007...  

The lawyer employed by the McCanns, via Metood 3, to represent murderess-of-her-own-daughter Leonor Cipriano in her accusation against Goncalo Amaral and four other PJ detectives, was Marcos Aragao Correia.

He also achieved fame by arranging the searches of the Arade Dam for Madeleine's bones in January and again in March 2008.

It may be recalled that he lied about being told by underworld sources that Madeleine had been abducted, raped, killed and thrown into the Arade Dam, then lied again by claiming that his interest in Madeleine began after he had a vision of a big man strangling a blond girl 'aged about four'. This was said to have occurred on Staurday, 5 May 2007 after his first-ever visit to a Spiritualist church, on Madeira.

He has since done a bunk to Brazil.

In 2008, he gave an interview to a journalist. I reproduced extracts of that interview in an article about Correia back in 2010. This bit may be of interest:

+++++++++++++++

The journalist then asks Aragão Correia to comment on the PJ investigation. He answered: “The information that I received as a medium didn’t allow for me to understand what the criminal’s motivation was. But information that I obtained later on - especially from consulting an excellent book by criminologist Barra da Costa - led me to believe the theory, admitted by the former PJ Chief Inspector, that the police weren’t interested in finding Maddie, nor in catching the real culprits over her disappearance. Dr Barra da Costa said in his book that there was something like a tacit plan to induce a general sense of insecurity across society, to allow for the micro-chip (a device implanted in human beings that gives out signals to track down where they are) to be produced on a major scale.

“At the beginning I had some reservations concerning that issue, because I had never heard about it, but I was interested enough to go on the internet and to consult several credible websites, including FBI and CIA sources, where I found some amazing things: the micro-chip was indeed being promoted as the ideal weapon to prevent crime. These sources added that the population should be induced into accepting this technological revolution, even if it was at the eexpense of a policy of deliberatley promoting mass public insecurity. Well, the Maddie case fell like ‘manna from heaven’ for the promotion of the microchip, especially as far as children are concerned”.