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Post by Tony Bennett on 03.12.09 12:08

I received this letter dated 30 November 2009 yesterday from the Victim Liaison Officer of Harlow Police Station (part of it has been snipped, otherwise it's unedited):

"I was sorry to hear that on the 12/11/09 you were the victim of HARASSMENT. Details of this incident have been officially recorded and allocated Crime Reference Number D222B/19551/09 which should be quoted in any future enquiries or correspondence. As far as is practical, enquiries will be made by DC 0003 CHISSEL of Harlow Police Station, 0300-3334444 who would be interested in any change of circumstances or new information."

To which I would like add this statement for the record.

I desisted until 12 November from reporting Debbie Butler's harassment of me to the police, despite many e-mails received from members and supporters urging me to have done this earlier.

It is with great regret and with no relish whatsoever that I took this step but, as subsequent events have proved, there seemed no obvious sign that this campaign of harassment was going to cease.

Debbie's campaign has resulted inter alia in national newspapers claiming that I had salted away £90,000 in private bank accounts, money which really was meant for the McCanns to help them find Madeleine. None of this, nor any of her other allegations, is true.

It's had other consequences, I won't list them all here, but The Madeleine Foundation cannot use its funds as they remain frozen and there now appear two wholly unfounded allegations against me being investigated by Essex Police.

Sadly others have also been harassed by Debbie, including e-mails and 'phone calls from her to members and supporters claiming they would be arrested by the police if they attended our meeting in the Manchester area.

In the meantime, whilst Debbie, Ambersuz and Brenda Ryan continue their unremitting campaign against me with around 1,850 posts on the 'MM' forum in the past 4 weeks on the 'Tony Bennett' threads, The Madeleine Foundation has a Committee meeting this Saturday and we are preparing more material for our website as we continue to ask relevant questions about what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

A thought has just occurred to me.

Ambersuz wrote a secret message to one of her Mods/Admin on or about 8 October referring to Debbie starting to make bizarre allegations of financial irregularity against me due to 'voices in her head'.

At the same time, Debbie admitted to speaking to Clarence Mitchell on several occasions in September, long conversations which she would not disclose the contents of.

Could it be that one of those 'voices in her head' was none other than that of Clarence Mitchell himself?
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Post by Autumn on 03.12.09 13:20

Thanks for the update, Tony. As I have said on another thread, I wonder if Clarence is the driving force behind all of this. Can there be anyone left on MM who seriously believes the nonsense spouted by ambersuz, debbie, and bren?
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 14:33

Tony,
Sadly others have also been harassed by Debbie, including e-mails and 'phone calls from her to members and supporters claiming they would be arrested by the police if they attended our meeting in the Manchester area.

Something interesting you said there

Didn't Debbie say she didn't have access to any of the members details, so how could she e-mail or call them? I thought it was strange that as chairwoman she didn't have access to those details.
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Post by littlepixie on 03.12.09 14:41

I should imagine she had access to a lot of peoples details if she was sending out the books.
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 14:50

@littlepixie wrote:I should imagine she had access to a lot of peoples details if she was sending out the books.

yes, that's the point littlepixie, she stated that she didn't have access though, and that is why she had to make her announcement on the MF website.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 03.12.09 15:12

candyfloss wrote:Didn't Debbie say she didn't have access to any of the members details, so how could she e-mail or call them? I thought it was strange that as chairwoman she didn't have access to those details.
I maintained the list of members. It was never a secret from Debbie, she just never asked me for the list, simple as that.

The first time she ever asked me for the list was on 30 October 2009, four days after she embarked on her campaign of abuse against me on the MM Forum. I decided that to protect members' confidentiality and their interests, in view of Ms Butler's volatility at that point, she should not be given that database.

Over a period of time, Debbie got to know some of our more active members and supporters and they would e-mail or 'phone each other. It is those members and supporters she was already in touch with whom she contacted after 26 october in order to bend their ears with various complaints about me and advise them that they risked arrest by the police if they attended our 14 November meeting, etc. etc.
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Post by Jolie on 03.12.09 15:23

I hope the police will be able to put an end to this harrassment and defamation of character campaign that Debbie Butler and the others have embarked on.
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 15:29

@Jolie wrote:I hope the police will be able to put an end to this harrassment and defamation of character campaign that Debbie Butler and the others have embarked on.

Totally agree, hope this all ends sooner rather than later. It seem odd, that we are witnessing some form of character assisination here with TB, and almost simultaneasly in Portugal on GA. Meanwhile it is detracting everyone from talking about the Madeleine case, which is such a shame.
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 15:38

@Jolie wrote:I hope the police will be able to put an end to this harrassment and defamation of character campaign that Debbie Butler and the others have embarked on.

I hope that someone will be able to put a stop to Mr. Bennett's harrassment of The McCanns.
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Post by Jolie on 03.12.09 15:44

candyfloss wrote:
@Jolie wrote:I hope the police will be able to put an end to this harrassment and defamation of character campaign that Debbie Butler and the others have embarked on.

Totally agree, hope this all ends sooner rather than later. It seem odd, that we are witnessing some form of character assisination here with TB, and almost simultaneasly in Portugal on GA. Meanwhile it is detracting everyone from talking about the Madeleine case, which is such a shame.

If these character assassination campaigns against Amaral and Bennett are orchestrated by Team McCann, then they have only added to their long list of dirty deeds in trying to keep the world from knowing and proving some stinking secret.

I can imagine there are moments when both Amaral and Bennett wish they had never become entangled in this case, which is one of the aims of these campaigns, isn't it? They're hoping the key people working to publicize the facts of the case become discouraged and give up, thinking it's not worth the personal cost to continue on. Who could blame either one for doing so? I am sickened by the tactics used recently and feel like pushing away from this case, after two years of following it, but I won't, because I know that's why the McCanns and their allies are striving for.

We're here to stay, you dirty buggers. I want the answers and I want them proven in a court of law. Until then, let's stay the course, shall we?
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Post by Jolie on 03.12.09 15:48

clarity wrote:Team McCann lol!

It's obvious to most of us, if you don't have a clue or choose to participate in their activities of trying to fool the public and let criminals walk free, too bad for you. Repeating your nonsense over and over does nothing to dissuade those of us who have watched the concerted effort of powerful people to manipulate public perceptions on this case.
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Post by preciousramotswe on 03.12.09 15:50

Does anyone seriously think that Ambersuz, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan - not to mention Steve Marsden - have all been working for Clarence Micthell and the McCanns?

I mean, seriously?
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Post by Jolie on 03.12.09 15:59

badmanners wrote:Does anyone seriously think that Ambersuz, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan - not to mention Steve Marsden - have all been working for Clarence Micthell and the McCanns?

I mean, seriously?

I don't think Debbie Butler started out on their side, but she may have been leaned on and/or persuaded by threats or rewards to come around, after conceding to Carter-Ruck's demands. As for A and B, I have no idea--they seem to be malevolent creatures with no common decency between the two of them, from what I've read recently. Who knows what their motivations are, for sure? Steve is not an honest person, imo, but other than that, I have no idea what his purposes are, other than to make money and pretend-play the big, important guy.

Mitchell has had a lifetime of learning how to manipulate people and knows how they tick and likely can identify a personality and what would work with each individual he comes across. Debbie Butler seems to be a highly emotional individual who would likely be putty in his hands.

The fact that Butler had had lengthly conversations with him and was planning to meet with him is highly indicative of Mitchell's interference and cause of this crusade to smear Tony Bennett, at all costs.
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Post by Autumn on 03.12.09 16:00

badmanners wrote:Does anyone seriously think that Ambersuz, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan - not to mention Steve Marsden - have all been working for Clarence Micthell and the McCanns?

I mean, seriously?

so what do you suppose Debbie Butler and Clarence have been having long conversations about?
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 16:07

@Jolie wrote:
clarity wrote:Team McCann lol!

It's obvious to most of us, if you don't have a clue or choose to participate in their activities of trying to fool the public and let criminals walk free, too bad for you. Repeating your nonsense over and over does nothing to dissuade those of us who have watched the concerted effort of powerful people to manipulate public perceptions on this case.

Oh Jolie please, this is silly.

The concerted effort of powerful people to manipulate public perception was nothing more than money making irresponsible journalism and you went and believed it, even after they were forced to admit to making it all up and apologise, you still believe it, ask yourself why you would prefer to believe stories that were admittedly false over the facts in the investigation files, I mean really, this is not about Clarence or Kate and Gerry or even Madeleine, it's about you, why did you make that choice?
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Post by Autumn on 03.12.09 16:13

clarity wrote:Team McCann lol!

Pathetic.
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Post by Jolie on 03.12.09 16:14

clarity wrote:
@Jolie wrote:
clarity wrote:Team McCann lol!

It's obvious to most of us, if you don't have a clue or choose to participate in their activities of trying to fool the public and let criminals walk free, too bad for you. Repeating your nonsense over and over does nothing to dissuade those of us who have watched the concerted effort of powerful people to manipulate public perceptions on this case.

Oh Jolie please, this is silly.

The concerted effort of powerful people to manipulate public perception was nothing more than money making irresponsible journalism and you went and believed it, even after they were forced to admit to making it all up and apologise, you still believe it, ask yourself why you would prefer to believe stories that were admittedly false over the facts in the investigation files, I mean really, this is not about Clarence or Kate and Gerry or even Madeleine, it's about you, why did you make that choice?

You're wasting your time with me, Clarity. I don't know what your game is, if you're paid or voluntary staff or an independent who chooses to spin for fun, but I don't buy the bs and never will.
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Post by MaryB on 03.12.09 16:15

Sorry Clarry but your're wasting your time with me as well.
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 16:17

Me too, you can waffle on till the cows come home, don't waste your energy. Unless you have something sensible to say for a change big grin
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 16:18

@Jolie wrote:
You're wasting your time with me, Clarity. I don't know what your game is, if you're paid or voluntary staff or an independent who chooses to spin for fun, but I don't buy the bs and never will.

You don't want to answer the question then, why would you ignore what is in the official investigation files and the evidence in favour of news artivcles that were proven to be lies?

What are you scared of?
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Post by Avery on 03.12.09 17:51

badmanners wrote:Does anyone seriously think that Ambersuz, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan - not to mention Steve Marsden - have all been working for Clarence Micthell and the McCanns?

I mean, seriously?

I suspected Brenda Ryan and the 3A's or working with the McCanns from the beginning. The 3As did nothing but ban people who had a genuine interest in the case. Brenda and her cohorts engaged in phoney forum wars as a way of outing members. What better way for Team McCann to track and control than to run the main forum. All the garbage threads allowed on that site were there to discredit the site itself.

The only way Brenda Ryan makes sense is to assume she has been bought and paid for by the team. Why would some housewife be so insistent that the 3As would be there forever when most of her posts were not even about Madeleine or the case.
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Post by Guest on 03.12.09 17:52

@Tony Bennett wrote:I received this letter dated 30 November 2009 yesterday from the Victim Liaison Officer of Harlow Police Station (part of it has been snipped, otherwise it's unedited):

"I was sorry to hear that on the 12/11/09 you were the victim of HARASSMENT. Details of this incident have been officially recorded and allocated Crime Reference Number D222B/19551/09 which should be quoted in any future enquiries or correspondence. As far as is practical, enquiries will be made by DC 0003 CHISSEL of Harlow Police Station, 0300-3334444 who would be interested in any change of circumstances or new information."

To which I would like add this statement for the record.

I desisted until 12 November from reporting Debbie Butler's harassment of me to the police, despite many e-mails received from members and supporters urging me to have done this earlier.

It is with great regret and with no relish whatsoever that I took this step but, as subsequent events have proved, there seemed no obvious sign that this campaign of harassment was going to cease.

Debbie's campaign has resulted inter alia in national newspapers claiming that I had salted away £90,000 in private bank accounts, money which really was meant for the McCanns to help them find Madeleine. None of this, nor any of her other allegations, is true.

It's had other consequences, I won't list them all here, but The Madeleine Foundation cannot use its funds as they remain frozen and there now appear two wholly unfounded allegations against me being investigated by Essex Police.

Sadly others have also been harassed by Debbie, including e-mails and 'phone calls from her to members and supporters claiming they would be arrested by the police if they attended our meeting in the Manchester area.

In the meantime, whilst Debbie, Ambersuz and Brenda Ryan continue their unremitting campaign against me with around 1,850 posts on the 'MM' forum in the past 4 weeks on the 'Tony Bennett' threads, The Madeleine Foundation has a Committee meeting this Saturday and we are preparing more material for our website as we continue to ask relevant questions about what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

A thought has just occurred to me.

Ambersuz wrote a secret message to one of her Mods/Admin on or about 8 October referring to Debbie starting to make bizarre allegations of financial irregularity against me due to 'voices in her head'.

At the same time, Debbie admitted to speaking to Clarence Mitchell on several occasions in September, long conversations which she would not disclose the contents of.

Could it be that one of those 'voices in her head' was none other than that of Clarence Mitchell himself?

Remember the last time you claimed the Police were investigating claims of harrasment Bennett. You posted the wrong crime number, At least this time you have quoted a whole number. Gives the police a better idea to put all your harrasment against the McCanns into perspective.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 03.12.09 17:56

murat_fan wrote:Remember the last time you claimed the police were investigating claims of harrasment Bennett. You posted the wrong crime number. At least this time you have quoted a whole number.
Wrong once again murat_fan.

I posted an Incident Number last time.

This time I posted a Crime Reference Number.

You don't even know the difference.

Do you?
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