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Government 'gave money to child sex ring in 70s': Home Office has ordered an investigation into shocking allegations
Government allegedly gave tens of thousands of pounds to Paedophile Information Exchange, which openly campaigned to legalise child sex
Extraordinary move triggered by Permanent Secretary Mark Sedwill
Labour MP Tom Watson says retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in 70s about funding, but was warned to drop matter
By Martin Beckford
8 December 2013
The head of the Home Office has ordered an investigation into shocking allegations that the Government gave tens of thousands of pounds to a notorious paedophile group.
Civil servants are trawling through decades’ worth of files to look for any evidence that the Home Office once funded the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which openly campaigned to legalise child sex.
The extraordinary move has been triggered by Permanent Secretary Mark Sedwill following claims by an ‘insider’ that the Voluntary Services Unit (VSU), which gave annual grants totalling thousands of pounds to charities, had provided financial assistance to the network of abusers.
Labour MP Tom Watson says a retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in the 1970s about the funding, but was warned to drop the matter.
Mr Watson told The Mail on Sunday last night: ‘We are lifting the lid on a murky period in political history. It feels as if we are getting closer to getting the answers that many people have been looking for for a long time.
‘People will be astounded if we discover that a Government of any political hue was funding the PIE.'
A spokesman for the Home Office confirmed: ‘We are aware of the allegations and the Permanent Secretary has commissioned a thorough, independent investigation into what funding the VSU previously provided.’
It is hoped the inquiry will finally uncover the truth about the links between paedophiles and the State following almost 40 years of claims of an establishment cover-up.
Civil servants are trawling through decades' worth of files to look for any evidence that the Home Office once funded the Paedophile Information Exchange
PIE was formed in the early 1970s and openly called for the age of consent to be lowered to four, despite public outrage. In 1976 morality campaigner Mary Whitehouse accused a gay charity that did receive Government grants, the Albany Trust, of helping fund PIE, but this was denied at the time.
A one time chairman of PIE, Steven Smith, worked as a heating and lighting engineer at the Home Office’s headquarters in Whitehall until he was exposed by a Sunday newspaper in 1982. He went on the run but was jailed for possessing 3,000 drawings of child abuse two years ago. Tom Watson says a retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in the 1970s about the funding, but was warned to drop the matter
After a PIE leader Tom O’Carroll was jailed in 1981 it emerged that a retired diplomat, Sir Peter Hayman, had been a supporter of the network and police had discovered his collection of obscene diaries but decided not to prosecute him. The MP who exposed him, Geoffrey Dickens, also handed three dossiers on PIE and alleged child abusers to the Home Office and the Director of Public Prosecutions but it is claimed they were ignored.
Following calls by child protection campaigners, an independent review was held in February this year of all Home Office files from 1979 to 1999 to ‘identify any information received about organised child abuse’. Led by an HMRC investigator, it examined 746,000 files and identified ‘13 items of information about alleged child abuse, including four cases involving Home Office staff’.
These four workers were all dismissed between 1996 and 1998, recent Freedom of Information documents state, but no evidence was found of links between them or use of ‘Home Office equipment or facilities’.
The review concluded that the Home Office ‘did pass on to the appropriate authorities’ all the information it received about child abuse, as well as taking action against suspected staff.
Whitehall sources said the new review was at an early stage.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520083/Probe-claims-government-gave-money-child-sex-ring-70s.html#ixzz2mso95xoN
Government 'gave money to child sex ring in 70s': Home Office has ordered an investigation into shocking allegations
Government allegedly gave tens of thousands of pounds to Paedophile Information Exchange, which openly campaigned to legalise child sex
Extraordinary move triggered by Permanent Secretary Mark Sedwill
Labour MP Tom Watson says retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in 70s about funding, but was warned to drop matter
By Martin Beckford
8 December 2013
The head of the Home Office has ordered an investigation into shocking allegations that the Government gave tens of thousands of pounds to a notorious paedophile group.
Civil servants are trawling through decades’ worth of files to look for any evidence that the Home Office once funded the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which openly campaigned to legalise child sex.
The extraordinary move has been triggered by Permanent Secretary Mark Sedwill following claims by an ‘insider’ that the Voluntary Services Unit (VSU), which gave annual grants totalling thousands of pounds to charities, had provided financial assistance to the network of abusers.
Labour MP Tom Watson says a retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in the 1970s about the funding, but was warned to drop the matter.
Mr Watson told The Mail on Sunday last night: ‘We are lifting the lid on a murky period in political history. It feels as if we are getting closer to getting the answers that many people have been looking for for a long time.
‘People will be astounded if we discover that a Government of any political hue was funding the PIE.'
A spokesman for the Home Office confirmed: ‘We are aware of the allegations and the Permanent Secretary has commissioned a thorough, independent investigation into what funding the VSU previously provided.’
It is hoped the inquiry will finally uncover the truth about the links between paedophiles and the State following almost 40 years of claims of an establishment cover-up.
Civil servants are trawling through decades' worth of files to look for any evidence that the Home Office once funded the Paedophile Information Exchange
PIE was formed in the early 1970s and openly called for the age of consent to be lowered to four, despite public outrage. In 1976 morality campaigner Mary Whitehouse accused a gay charity that did receive Government grants, the Albany Trust, of helping fund PIE, but this was denied at the time.
A one time chairman of PIE, Steven Smith, worked as a heating and lighting engineer at the Home Office’s headquarters in Whitehall until he was exposed by a Sunday newspaper in 1982. He went on the run but was jailed for possessing 3,000 drawings of child abuse two years ago. Tom Watson says a retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in the 1970s about the funding, but was warned to drop the matter
After a PIE leader Tom O’Carroll was jailed in 1981 it emerged that a retired diplomat, Sir Peter Hayman, had been a supporter of the network and police had discovered his collection of obscene diaries but decided not to prosecute him. The MP who exposed him, Geoffrey Dickens, also handed three dossiers on PIE and alleged child abusers to the Home Office and the Director of Public Prosecutions but it is claimed they were ignored.
Following calls by child protection campaigners, an independent review was held in February this year of all Home Office files from 1979 to 1999 to ‘identify any information received about organised child abuse’. Led by an HMRC investigator, it examined 746,000 files and identified ‘13 items of information about alleged child abuse, including four cases involving Home Office staff’.
These four workers were all dismissed between 1996 and 1998, recent Freedom of Information documents state, but no evidence was found of links between them or use of ‘Home Office equipment or facilities’.
The review concluded that the Home Office ‘did pass on to the appropriate authorities’ all the information it received about child abuse, as well as taking action against suspected staff.
Whitehall sources said the new review was at an early stage.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520083/Probe-claims-government-gave-money-child-sex-ring-70s.html#ixzz2mso95xoN
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I can only skim read the above at the moment, tasprin. It is making me ill.
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Just look who was running the country in the early 70s. Say no more!
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And this from Exaro News (thanks to Needleblog) http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5152/met-s-paedophile-unit-seizes-video-of-ex-minister-at-sex-party
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December 7, 2013
Op Fairbank Seize Video Of Former Minister At ‘Sex Party’
Detectives have seized video that places a former Conservative cabinet minister at one of several parties where boys were sexually abused by men.
The Metropolitan Police Service’s paedophile unit seized the footage under ‘Operation Fairbank’ which is scoping historical claims against politicians of child sex abuse. It is investigating additional allegations against politicians and other prominent people under ‘Operation Fernbridge’.
The unit is focusing on a series of parties in London three decades ago at which boys were supplied for sexual gratification of men.
http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/
Needleblog
December 7, 2013
Op Fairbank Seize Video Of Former Minister At ‘Sex Party’
Detectives have seized video that places a former Conservative cabinet minister at one of several parties where boys were sexually abused by men.
The Metropolitan Police Service’s paedophile unit seized the footage under ‘Operation Fairbank’ which is scoping historical claims against politicians of child sex abuse. It is investigating additional allegations against politicians and other prominent people under ‘Operation Fernbridge’.
The unit is focusing on a series of parties in London three decades ago at which boys were supplied for sexual gratification of men.
http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/
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These deviants sit comfortable in every Government Sallyspelt. It doesn't matter what colour rosette they sport.@sallypelt wrote:Just look who was running the country in the early 70s. Say no more!
And people question why I don't vote.
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Never forget the role played by Hewitt and Harman and Dromey in the PIE.
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O yes! That lovely man who was told by MI5 to stop cottaging as it would stop him becoming party leader...@sallypelt wrote:Just look who was running the country in the early 70s. Say no more!
Petty, dirty man who luckily wasn't in power long enough to ruin it.
He lived in Salisbury Close and I believe they tried toturn his house into a museum dedicated to him, turned out he wasn't that popular.
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It is terrifying.
Yet these same perverts and paedophiles allow a situation to develop, by being part of the establishment and therefore endorsing public social policy, that allowed a secret court to force a caesarian on a pregnant woman and steal her child.
How many children "disappear" because of the secret courts? How do we know these stolen children are not being passed to these high level pedophile rings for whatever horrendous purposes?
Yet these same perverts and paedophiles allow a situation to develop, by being part of the establishment and therefore endorsing public social policy, that allowed a secret court to force a caesarian on a pregnant woman and steal her child.
How many children "disappear" because of the secret courts? How do we know these stolen children are not being passed to these high level pedophile rings for whatever horrendous purposes?
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Another politician was allegedly caught "cottaging" but that didn't stop him becoming a future prime minister......
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Can you tell me what PIE is? No idea being foreign and all -@PeterMac wrote:Never forget the role played by Hewitt and Harman and Dromey in the PIE.

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Thanks, I just wondered if it was a registered cc/charity if it has an official status or is a quango with paid members.No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511016/Harriet-Harmans-MP-husband-Jack-Dromey-adds-gay-porn-Tweet-favourites.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10464348/Labour-frontbencher-favourited-explicit-gay-porn-tweets.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/5275413/Labour-MP-Jack-Dromey-in-gay-porn-tweet-riddle.html
and so on and on.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100185799/how-hatties-friends-defended-paedophilia/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2221078/Jimmy-Savile-liberal-left-encouraged-sexualisation-children.html
Don't read until long after your Sunday lunch.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10464348/Labour-frontbencher-favourited-explicit-gay-porn-tweets.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/5275413/Labour-MP-Jack-Dromey-in-gay-porn-tweet-riddle.html
and so on and on.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100185799/how-hatties-friends-defended-paedophilia/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2221078/Jimmy-Savile-liberal-left-encouraged-sexualisation-children.html
Don't read until long after your Sunday lunch.
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I shall wait till later then - just got this from the Wikepedia : PIE submitted a 17-page document in which it proposed that there should be no age of consent,@PeterMac wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511016/Harriet-Harmans-MP-husband-Jack-Dromey-adds-gay-porn-Tweet-favourites.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10464348/Labour-frontbencher-favourited-explicit-gay-porn-tweets.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/5275413/Labour-MP-Jack-Dromey-in-gay-porn-tweet-riddle.html
and so on and on.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100185799/how-hatties-friends-defended-paedophilia/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2221078/Jimmy-Savile-liberal-left-encouraged-sexualisation-children.html
Don't read until long after your Sunday lunch.
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Wonder if they considered turning his yacht, Morning Cloud, into a museum? I'd be very interested in any forensic findings an investigation into that vessel may yield.@tigger wrote:O yes! That lovely man who was told by MI5 to stop cottaging as it would stop him becoming party leader...@sallypelt wrote:Just look who was running the country in the early 70s. Say no more!
Petty, dirty man who luckily wasn't in power long enough to ruin it.
He lived in Salisbury Close and I believe they tried toturn his house into a museum dedicated to him, turned out he wasn't that popular.
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Deleted, please do not name people
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I was about to say that the person whose name has been deleted isn't a former Tory Cabinet minister!
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I didn't insinuate he was. I was reminded of the name (now deleted) that I mentioned because of his connections to PIE and his championing of lowering the age of consent! The thread was about this subject yes?
Then I asked if he'd been of TPV yet (as advertised).
I don't understand why the post was deleted. An explanation would help please.
Then I asked if he'd been of TPV yet (as advertised).
I don't understand why the post was deleted. An explanation would help please.
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Daisy, I think it was just an unfortunate connection with the story that I posted. It looked as if it was that to which you were referring.
Admin, I'm happy for you to delete that link of mine.
Admin, I'm happy for you to delete that link of mine.
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Surely If I was making a connection to your post I would have quoted you? And you insult my intelligence by suggesting I'd think (name deleted) was a Tory! Tut tut, thought you knew me better.No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Daisy, I think it was just an unfortunate connection with the story that I posted. It looked as if it was that to which you were referring.
Admin, I'm happy for you to delete that link of mine.

Never mind, I'm not one to fuss

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Yes, that was the reason, it was directly after NFWTD post, and looked as if we were naming this person (that cannot be named), so better to play safe than sorry.No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Daisy, I think it was just an unfortunate connection with the story that I posted. It looked as if it was that to which you were referring.
Admin, I'm happy for you to delete that link of mine.
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Thanks guys. I understand the pressure you're under keeping the forum clean. Hats off to you.
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@tigger wrote:O yes! That lovely man who was told by MI5 to stop cottaging as it would stop him becoming party leader...@sallypelt wrote:Just look who was running the country in the early 70s. Say no more!
Petty, dirty man who luckily wasn't in power long enough to ruin it.
He lived in Salisbury Close and I believe they tried toturn his house into a museum dedicated to him, turned out he wasn't that popular.
What is cottaging....sorry I've never heard of this !
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