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Post by PeterMac on 26.11.13 14:44

http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Friends_Fear_Kate._2.html

It is 14,000 words, so I won't post it here, but it is worth a dip into. It covers a lot of ground.

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Post by Guest on 26.11.13 16:14

Good gracious. I C&P-ed it - it is 48 pages. With some formatting, I got it down to 33 ...
Will print and read it at the kitchen table. I prefer paper, especially when it's more than just an e-mail, post or comment.
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Post by Guest on 26.11.13 17:02

Wow- strong stuff. Definately deserves a read.
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Post by PeterMac on 26.11.13 17:39

chilli wrote:Wow- strong stuff. Definately deserves a read.
It certainly is. Sadly it is verbose - or prolix, to use Tugendhat J's favourite word - and mixes up several separate strands of thought and argument.
I may try to pull it apart
Or I may just move on !

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Post by Guest on 26.11.13 17:49

@PeterMac wrote:
chilli wrote:Wow- strong stuff. Definately deserves a read.
It certainly is. Sadly it is verbose - or prolix, to use Tugendhat J's favourite word - and mixes up several separate strands of thought and argument.
I may try to pull it apart
Or I may just move on !
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Do pull it apart, I pray. Then it's only one, who we'll all be grateful to, as he's saving us time ... winkwink 
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Post by Angelique on 26.11.13 18:09

PeterMac

Thank you for the link to the article.

Its vast.

Its True

Its what we have all been saying and thinking

So why does nothing happen ?

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Post by Guest on 26.11.13 20:44

Yes have to agree. I skipped the verse altogether.  I've been following this since the beginning so didn't find it too hard to follow. Probably too long for newcomers.
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Post by Copodenieve on 26.11.13 22:04

That was some "straight to the point and no messing about" read! Thanks for posting it.
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And two more this morning

Post by PeterMac on 28.11.13 10:47

Both a bit prolix, but the first attacks the pyjama story.

Dr Roberts has shown how there had to be three identical pairs of pyjamas for the story to work.
Here l-azzeri points out that
JT describes only the legs of the pyjamas - even though she gets the colour wrong
Kate subsequently embellishes this to say that the Tannerman child's arm were bare ( obviously to bring them in line with the pyjamas they held up to the press later)
Smithman is carrying a child in pyjamas with LONG SLEEVES.
THEREFORE
Smithman is not carrying Madeleine
Simple logic
And that is the end of Smithman. Whether he existed or not, is now completely irrelevant.

By their own testimony the McCanns have ruled him out.

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Post by aquila on 28.11.13 11:03

@PeterMac wrote:Both a bit prolix, but the first attacks the pyjama story.

Dr Roberts has shown how there had to be three identical pairs of pyjamas for the story to work.
Here l-azzeri points out that
JT describes only the legs of the pyjamas - even though she gets the colour wrong
Kate subsequently embellishes this to say that the Tannerman child's arm were bare ( obviously to bring them in line with the pyjamas they held up to the press later)
Smithman is carrying a child in pyjamas with LONG SLEEVES.
THEREFORE
Smithman is not carrying Madeleine
Simple logic
And that is the end of Smithman. Whether he existed or not, is now completely irrelevant.

By their own testimony the McCanns have ruled him out.
Aha....so deciding that there wasn't enough money to pursue both sightings (Smithman v Tannerman) all boiled down to a pair of pyjamas. A revelation moment indeed.
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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.11.13 11:07

You put your Smithman in,
Your Tannerman out,
In, out, in, out, shake them both about,
You do the ockey cokey.
And you turn around,
And now another new 'abductor' needs to be found!

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Post by PeterMac on 28.11.13 11:12

@aquila wrote:Aha....so deciding that there wasn't enough money to pursue both sightings (Smithman v Tannerman) all boiled down to a pair of pyjamas. A revelation moment indeed.
Those would the the third pair, the ones Kate boiled down to get the tea stain out of them.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.11.13 11:19

@PeterMac wrote:
@aquila wrote:Aha....so deciding that there wasn't enough money to pursue both sightings (Smithman v Tannerman) all boiled down to a pair of pyjamas. A revelation moment indeed.
Those would the the third pair, the ones Kate boiled down to get the tea stain out of them.
And with Andy Redwood's remarkable TWO 'revelations' that 'the child seen WAS wearing pyjamas' OR his 'the child seen was POSSIBLY wearing pyjamas'

He used to be indecisive, but now he's not sure.

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Post by sallypelt on 28.11.13 11:34

This is taken from the same site. I don't know if it has been posted here in its entirety, or whether it has been posted at all, but I will copy and paste a small section, and if people want to read the full article, I have supplied the link to the site page:

Friends fear Kate…might lose 1.2m Euros?



 source, close to another source, who knows a source close to the McCann source - 

"Kate will be devastated if she doesn't get the 1.2 m Euros.  She’s  had her heart set on it these past 4 + years since she raised this action against the retired detective Dr Goncalo Amaral - she hates him, she wishes him to feel pain and suffering, she wants him to disappear...but she'd settle for the 1.2m,.   It won’t help Madeleine, but it will make Kate feel happier.  

They call him the disgraced cop - they know he isn't, and they know he wasn't sacked either that he retired from the police force, but Kate knows calling him the disgraced cop makes better headlines. 




 http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Friends_Fear_Kate._2.html

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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 11:41

Cannot wait for the headlines once she's "disgraced" ...
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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 11:43

But I thought that the whole case of GMs Hacking it Off campaign was, that the media only put words into their mouths they never uttered (themselves)?

So why do we still quote anything in the media, when we want to make a case for or against any of TMs alleged arguments?
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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 11:45

Châtelaine wrote:Cannot wait for the headlines once she's "disgraced" …
Don't hold your breath though; maybe she will just be tannered, for having mistook herself, which will be easily explained by her supposed frailty
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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.11.13 12:26

@Portia wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:Cannot wait for the headlines once she's "disgraced" …
Don't hold your breath though; maybe she will just be tannered, for having mistook herself, which will be easily explained by her supposed frailty
Surely you mean McTannered?

McTannered means that when you went to meet your friend at 9:20pm, and she wasn't there, but swears says she was.
As you didn't see her you, have been subjected to a McTannering.

She 'saw' you, as she was 'there' but nobody 'saw' her.

You've been McTannered.

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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 15:58

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@Portia wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:Cannot wait for the headlines once she's "disgraced" …
Don't hold your breath though; maybe she will just be tannered, for having mistook herself, which will be easily explained by her supposed frailty
Surely you mean McTannered?

McTannered means that when you went to meet your friend at 9:20pm, and she wasn't there, but swears says she was.
As you didn't see her you, have been subjected to a McTannering.

She 'saw' you, as she was 'there' but nobody 'saw' her.

You've been McTannered.
i thought it was: when you make a complete ass out of yourself lying to protect some new acquaintance you actually don't know that well at all, and this protected person then turns around and publicly nails you to the mast denying everything you put up in her favor. So the elements are: 
(a) lying and (b) being publicly exposed by those you lied for
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Post by PeterMac on 28.11.13 17:34

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Post by PeterMac on 28.11.13 17:37

@Portia wrote:I thought it was: when you make a complete ass out of yourself lying to protect some new acquaintance you actually don't know that well at all, and this protected person then turns around and publicly nails you to the mast denying everything you put up in her favor. So the elements are: 
(a) lying and (b) being publicly exposed by those you lied for
But then the full McTanner is then, having exposed you, to keep running with the lie for a further 7 years, until someone immune from attack by libel lawyers
performs the Full McTanner and proves you were wrong, or lying in the first place about the other part of the story.

All that person then has to do is change some of the facts (long / short sleeves on the pink / white / both colour pyjamas) and select another victim / person of interest / devoted father / total invention.
(Or a conveniently dead black man - which goes without saying. There is probably a filing cabinet full of details of dead black men ready to be entered onto Detected Crime reports.
Chief Constable's anual bonus is about to be calculated.)

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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 19:52

@PeterMac wrote:
@Portia wrote:I thought it was: when you make a complete ass out of yourself lying to protect some new acquaintance you actually don't know that well at all, and this protected person then turns around and publicly nails you to the mast denying everything you put up in her favor. So the elements are: 
(a) lying and (b) being publicly exposed by those you lied for
But then the full McTanner is then, having exposed you, to keep running with the lie for a further 7 years, until someone immune from attack by libel lawyers
performs the Full McTanner and proves you were wrong, or lying in the first place about the other part of the story.

All that person then has to do is change some of the facts (long / short sleeves on the pink / white / both colour pyjamas) and select another victim / person of interest / devoted father / total invention.
(Or a conveniently dead black man - which goes without saying. There is probably a filing cabinet full of details of dead black men ready to be entered onto Detected Crime reports.
Chief Constable's anual bonus is about to be calculated.)
CCs anal bonus?

WHAT!!
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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 19:54

Make that ANNUAL bonus please!
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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 19:55

There 's something rotten in the state of Denmark
which, given certain course,
leads on to fortune

No longer mourn for them
as they are dead
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Post by Guest on 28.11.13 19:55

@Portia wrote:
CCs anal bonus?
WHAT!!
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Portia ....
Peter is the last one to make spelling errors!
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