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Phone Hacking Trial: Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson trial begins today:UPDATE BROOKS NOT GUILTY, COULSON GUILTY

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Re: Phone Hacking Trial: Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson trial begins today:UPDATE BROOKS NOT GUILTY, COULSON GUILTY

Post by tiny on 24.06.14 12:46

@Justiceseeker wrote:Because Rupert Murdoch is more powerful than all of them imo.


Primeministers come and go RM goes nowhere.

 That's what I think,im sure I read that he would protect her
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Post by HelenMeg on 24.06.14 12:49

@PeterMac wrote:Whatever you may think about other decisions the conviction of Coulson is going to be a VERY serious blow to Cameron.
A simple "apology" to Parliament is not going to be enough.
His entire professional judgement and his ability to select proper advisors and confidants is in question.

And for conspiracy theorists,  who believe that government is able to influence evern the judiciary and due process . . .
Why would they find RB NOT guilty but find Coulson Guilty
Maybe this will incite DC to have better professional judgement in the Mc Cann case then - otherwise he will go down in history as having the worst judgement  of any PM.

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Post by lufc50337 on 24.06.14 12:51

@tiny wrote:
@Justiceseeker wrote:Because Rupert Murdoch is more powerful than all of them imo.


Primeministers come and go RM goes nowhere.

 That's what I think,im sure I read that he would protect her

RM stated his only concern was RB, a definite shot across the bows and so Andy Coulson is the sacrificial lamb


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Post by Woofer on 24.06.14 12:54

Could it just be that RB, CB & CC have been handed a not guilty verdict merely because they have been given the benefit of any doubt?
 
Interesting that RB and CB are pals and neighbours with DC, and going by the force of expression behind DC`s promise to apologise if AC was found guilty - I reckon it was decided long ago AC would be the fall guy because he dared to deceive the PM.
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Re: Phone Hacking Trial: Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson trial begins today:UPDATE BROOKS NOT GUILTY, COULSON GUILTY

Post by worriedmum on 24.06.14 12:55

So am I still allowed to ask what all the 'Danny Boy', 'pizza deliveries' and placing black bin bags in car parks was all about ? Am I?
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Post by Justiceseeker on 24.06.14 12:55

@HelenMeg wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:Whatever you may think about other decisions the conviction of Coulson is going to be a VERY serious blow to Cameron.
A simple "apology" to Parliament is not going to be enough.
His entire professional judgement and his ability to select proper advisors and confidants is in question.

And for conspiracy theorists,  who believe that government is able to influence evern the judiciary and due process . . .
Why would they find RB NOT guilty but find Coulson Guilty
Maybe this will incite DC to have better professional judgement in the Mc Cann case then - otherwise he will go down in history as having the worst judgement  of any PM.

They say Tony Blair knew the war on Iraq was illegal and he knew they hd no weapons of mass dedtruction.



No doubt Cameron will have a few negAtive headlines and will quit after he loses power at the next general election.


Ultimately Blairs mistakes nver harmed him and nor will Camerons.


A new political party will soom be in charge but ultimately the true people in charge will remain exactly the same.

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Post by Gaggzy on 24.06.14 12:56

@Justiceseeker wrote:Andy Coulson the scapegoat.

What a joke.


Who will be the scapegoat in the Mccann case?

Sure as hell wont be the Mccanns.

It's obvious.

In a bizzare twist of fate, the scapegoat will be the corkscrew-haired one herself,

Rebekah Brookes.

She'll be accused of organizing the swinging holiday.

IMO of course!   big grin
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Post by Cristobell on 24.06.14 12:56

It really is like watching an episode of 'The Thick of It' - we can only imagine the duties of communication directors in the heart of Westminster, and it gives us an insight into how former chief weasel Clarence was able to spin the McCann case.

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Post by tasprin on 24.06.14 12:58

She hid the computer and still got away with it  wow 

The old saying, 'It's who you know', is true. 

There are people who have got away with decades of child abuse because of who they know. Phone hacking is trivial in comparison to their crimes but some people are above the law in this country. How justice is served is dependent on background, influence and wealth, it's no wonder the public have lost faith.  

eta. Libel lawyers seem to have more power than the criminal courts these days but they are only for wealthy criminals.

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Post by aquila on 24.06.14 12:59

@Cristobell wrote:It really is like watching an episode of 'The Thick of It' - we can only imagine the duties of communication directors in the heart of Westminster, and it gives us an insight into how former chief weasel Clarence was able to spin the McCann case.
Cristobell, one of Clarence's supporters on twitter is now calling him 'Clazza'  big grin
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Re: Phone Hacking Trial: Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson trial begins today:UPDATE BROOKS NOT GUILTY, COULSON GUILTY

Post by bobbin on 24.06.14 13:02

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27997688

Andy Coulson has been found guilty of phone hacking.
I think this is very interesting, and it is only my opinion.

1. The 'lesser mortal' is the 'fall guy', Andy Coulson is not the main player here, he hasn't got crinkly red hair.

2. The McCs are the 'lesser mortals' in the bigger game, which they risked exposing with their 'blundering biggest co**up in history'.
The bigger game, was /is IMO being played out in the environs of PdL, and covered up by 'unknown high level elites', who are the main players, and who had the damage limitation guys sent in on 4th May 2007, in profusion, to quell the storm.

3. How could Rebekkah ever be found guilty of 'spying on people' when her bestest friends, Dave of Cameroon and his chosen government, reign supreme over the iniquities of ICU.HQ, spying on every single person making every single communication with whomsoever, including of course this current posting, on an electronic /internet intercepted forum.

How can she, a private individual and member of the public, be guilty of spying, on other private individuals and members of the public, by intercepting their electronic communications, when those at ICU.HQ, at their desks, paid for by 'govt funds' and with a large part of the work co-opted out to private enterprises, which is made up of private individuals and ordinary members of the public, are doing just the same thing.

The latter do it, ignoring all public rage, disbelief and dissent, and continue to fix the laws to continue to do what in any one's terms would be considered 'spying'.

I'm sure her defense would have been, had she needed to resort it, to quote, if it's OK for ICU.HQ, then it's OK for Rebekkah or her private individuals/ members of the public /employees.
AIMO of course.  spin

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Post by Woofer on 24.06.14 13:02

@worriedmum wrote:So am I still allowed to ask what all the 'Danny Boy', 'pizza deliveries' and placing black bin bags in car parks was all about ? Am I?

As with the removal of boxes of documents and notebooks - like Clarence Mitchell`s famous words " there`s a wholly innocent explanation for any material the police may or may not have"   spin 

I reckon the jury got to a unanimous verdict merely by giving them the benefit of the doubt.

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Post by bobbin on 24.06.14 13:09

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:He's 83; he can't go on for ever.
He's got another 17 years to go before he gets his letter from the Queen.

Hang on a mo', will she still be here in 17 years. Perhaps one of her children or grandchildren will have to write it.
On the other hand, I suppose she could write it now, with a note scribbled on the back of the envelope, "to be sent, in my lieu, if applicable".  laughat

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Post by Gaggzy on 24.06.14 13:12

@worriedmum wrote:So am I still allowed to ask what all the 'Danny Boy', 'pizza deliveries' and placing black bin bags in car parks was all about ? Am I?

The Prime Minister could tell you, but then he would have to kill you.
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Post by aiyoyo on 24.06.14 13:25

My flabber is gasted beyond words.

So the pillow talks between RB and AC were never about work.....ha who would believe that, except the Jury apparently !
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So who was Andy conspring with?

Post by coati mundi on 24.06.14 13:57

What a perverse verdict!

If Andy Coulson is guilty of conspiring to hack phones, who was he doing it with? At least one other defendant has to be found guilty  - you can't conspire with yourself. Unless, of course, they found that he had conspired with Glenn Mulcare (not on trial here).

Also, are we really expected to believe that this was going on at a newspaper and that the person in absolute control of the paper had no idea what was going on? Where did they think the stories were coming from?

I really can't see the logic of the verdicts so far.

All in my humble opinion of course! huh  huh

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Post by worriedmum on 24.06.14 13:59




''Some-one is going to have to go down to the basement and collect the pizzas. They are all in bin bags at the back of the car park....''
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Post by Tony Bennett on 24.06.14 14:21

David Cameron has just made a statement to the BBC saying he is 'extremely sorry' that he appointed Andy Coulson as his Director of Communications:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27998411

He hasn't yet apologised for the decision that he and Coulson took to appoint McCann-spokesman-for-the-last-7-years, Clarence Mitchell, as Coulson's Deputy, in March 2010.

Very much to the contrary, Mithcell has been appointed to try to win the seat of Brighton Pavilion for the Conservative Party

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Post by Cristobell on 24.06.14 14:30

@Tony Bennett wrote:David Cameron has just made a statement to the BBC saying he is 'extremely sorry' that he appointed Andy Coulson as his Director of Communications:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27998411

He hasn't yet apologised for the decision that he and Coulson took to appoint McCann-spokesman-for-the-last-7-years, Clarence Mitchell, as Coulson's Deputy, in March 2010.

Very much to the contrary, Mithcell has been appointed to try to win the seat of Brighton Pavilion for the Conservative Party
Wow, I did not know that Tony!  Surely the net must be closing in.

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Post by sar on 24.06.14 14:39

RB not guilty, so RB / Murdoch does have the s**t on May / Cameron? & or the Mc's?  This is a win for the Murdoch Empire.  For our friends north of the border, when AC gets sentenced will he get a knock on the cell door from Strathclyde's finest re: Tommy Sheridan perjury trial?

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Post by tasprin on 24.06.14 14:48

Will the McCanns spokesman and Tory candidate for Brighton Pavilion, Clarence Mitchell, be making a statement on behalf of his friend and fellow spin doctor, Andy Coulson, explaining how 'There is an innocent explanation for everything'?

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Post by MaybeMaybenot on 24.06.14 15:47

@Tony Bennett wrote:David Cameron has just made a statement to the BBC saying he is 'extremely sorry' that he appointed Andy Coulson as his Director of Communications:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27998411

He hasn't yet apologised for the decision that he and Coulson took to appoint McCann-spokesman-for-the-last-7-years, Clarence Mitchell, as Coulson's Deputy, in March 2010.

Very much to the contrary, Mithcell has been appointed to try to win the seat of Brighton Pavilion for the Conservative Party
You must be extremely sorry you shared an office with an MI5 asset. In fact he falls into this case in a strange way.

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Post by MaybeMaybenot on 24.06.14 15:58

@aiyoyo wrote:My flabber is gasted beyond words.

So the pillow talks between RB and AC were never about work.....ha who would believe that, except the Jury apparently !
Bang on....on the nose
They are all corrupt...Some are put in place to play both sides, always ALWAYS remember that

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Post by sar on 24.06.14 16:09

@MaybeMaybenot wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:My flabber is gasted beyond words.

So the pillow talks between RB and AC were never about work.....ha who would believe that, except the Jury apparently !
Bang on....on the nose
They are all corrupt...Some are put in place to play both sides, always ALWAYS remember that
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