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Re: Let's talk about Clarence

Post by tigger on 28.01.14 17:19

@MissDaisy wrote:
@tigger wrote:
I do have my suspicions about the Trafigura scandal inwhich he didn't cover himself in glory, yet started rising to the surface....

That's interesting Tigger I wasn't aware he was connected to Trafigura. Kevin Halligen used to work for Trafigura, a tangled web it is.

Arrrghh! Methinks this could become a very interesting topic!
Didn't know about Halligan. the plot thickens....

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Post by PeterMac on 28.01.14 17:27

@tigger wrote:
@MissDaisy wrote:
@tigger wrote:
I do have my suspicions about the Trafigura scandal inwhich he didn't cover himself in glory, yet started rising to the surface....

That's interesting Tigger I wasn't aware he was connected to Trafigura. Kevin Halligen used to work for Trafigura, a tangled web it is.

Arrrghh! Methinks this could become a very interesting topic!
Didn't know about Halligan. the plot thickens....
And the Libel lawyers who acted for trafigura. . . Carter-Ruck

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Re: Let's talk about Clarence

Post by tigger on 28.01.14 17:34

@PeterMac wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@MissDaisy wrote:
@tigger wrote:
I do have my suspicions about the Trafigura scandal inwhich he didn't cover himself in glory, yet started rising to the surface....

That's interesting Tigger I wasn't aware he was connected to Trafigura. Kevin Halligen used to work for Trafigura, a tangled web it is.

Arrrghh! Methinks this could become a very interesting topic!
Didn't know about Halligan. the plot thickens....
And the Libel lawyers who acted for trafigura. . .  Carter-Ruck

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Re: Let's talk about Clarence

Post by MissDaisy on 28.01.14 17:36

@PeterMac wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@MissDaisy wrote:
@tigger wrote:
I do have my suspicions about the Trafigura scandal inwhich he didn't cover himself in glory, yet started rising to the surface....
That's interesting Tigger I wasn't aware he was connected to Trafigura. Kevin Halligen used to work for Trafigura, a tangled web it is.
Arrrghh! Methinks this could become a very interesting topic!
Didn't know about Halligan. the plot thickens....
And the Libel lawyers who acted for trafigura. . .  Carter-Ruck
It is connections like this that really do make me think we will never ever hear the whole truth about this, especially events before May, 2007.

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Post by MissDaisy on 28.01.14 17:53

Slight side note, but it did make me laugh, when Halligen got married in April, 2007 he actually hired an actor to perform a fake service! You really could not make this stuff up, where do they get these characters.

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Re: Let's talk about Clarence

Post by Woofer on 28.01.14 17:57

@MissDaisy wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@MissDaisy wrote:
@tigger wrote:
I do have my suspicions about the Trafigura scandal inwhich he didn't cover himself in glory, yet started rising to the surface....
That's interesting Tigger I wasn't aware he was connected to Trafigura. Kevin Halligen used to work for Trafigura, a tangled web it is.
Arrrghh! Methinks this could become a very interesting topic!
Didn't know about Halligan. the plot thickens....
And the Libel lawyers who acted for trafigura. . .  Carter-Ruck
It is connections like this that really do make me think we will never ever hear the whole truth about this, especially events before May, 2007.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/dc/news/2013/jun/13-230.html

"The wire fraud charge stems from actions taken by Halligen in 2006 and 2007, when he was the Chief Executive Officer of Red Defence International (RDI), a London-based security consulting and crisis management firm, which was hired by Trafigura Beheer BV (Trafigura), a Netherlands-based international commodities trading company, and its London-based law firm, Waterson Hicks.  Trafigura hired RDI as a consultant in crisis management after two Trafigura executives were captured and imprisoned in the Ivory Coast while visiting there for the purpose of determining the company’s next steps to address an environmental issue caused by the leakage of toxic waste material from Trafigura vessels in an Ivory Coast port.
     While employed by Trafigura, Halligen claimed to have incurred $2.1 million in expenses related to pursuing a strategy in the United States aimed at convincing the United States to assist in securing the release of the Trafigura executives; in reality, Halligen spent the money on a home in Great Falls, Va., which was to be his personal residence, as well as other personal expenses, according to the government’s evidence.
     According to a Statement of Offense, signed by the defendant as well as the government, at the request of Trafigura, Waterson Hicks hired RDI in October 2006 to help secure the release of two Trafigura executives who were arrested and detained in Abidjan, Ivory Coast. The arrests followed an environmental spill off the coast of Abidjan. Under a contract that took effect in October 2006, RDI was to provide security intelligence and public relations services related to Trafigura’s presence in the Ivory Coast and to assist with facilitating the release of the Trafigura executives. Under the contract with RDI, Waterson Hicks paid RDI and then, in turn, the law firm was reimbursed by Trafigura.
     During November 2006, after other efforts to secure the executives’ release proved unsuccessful, Halligen suggested that the U.S. government should be involved with facilitating negotiations with the Ivory Coast.  His stated strategy was to utilize his contacts in the United States to encourage Ivory Coast officials to release the executives. Halligen said the “American Strategy” would cost an additional $2.1 million, on top of the money RDI already was receiving.  In total, Halligen received close to $12 million under this contract.  
     The $2.1 million supposedly was to be used to pay expenses incurred by Halligen in the United States to hire consultants and lobbyists to influence officials in the United States on Trafigura’s behalf. In December 2006, Halligen was informed that the law firm had received the $2.1 million from Trafigura. Then, in January 2007, Halligen told the law firm to wire $2.1 million from their bank account in London to his personal bank account in the United States.
     Between November 2006 and January 2007, Halligen traveled to the United States on numerous occasions, claiming to have met with U.S. officials in Washington, D.C., allegedly in furtherance of the “American Strategy.”  While in Washington, D.C., he began dating a woman who resided in the area and subsequently became engaged to her.
     Halligen gave his fianceé a $2 million budget to find a suitable house in which they would live after their marriage. Shortly thereafter, she found a six-bedroom, 4 ½-bathroom residence in Great Falls, Va.  On Jan. 11, 2007 - the day after $2.1 million was wired to Halligen’s personal bank account for the American strategy - Halligen wired nearly $1.7 million from his account to complete the purchase of the Great Falls residence.
     None of the proceeds from the $2.1 million payment from Waterson Hicks to RDI were ever directed toward reimbursement of expenses related to the “American Strategy.” In addition to spending nearly $1.7 million on the purchase of the Great Falls residence, the rest of the money was spent on other personal expenses, including a lavish fake wedding to his Washington, D.C. fiancé which was held at an exclusive location in Georgetown, two purebred dogs, and other luxury personal items.
     The Trafigura executives ultimately were released in February 2007."
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Re: Let's talk about Clarence

Post by aquila on 30.01.14 10:07

@Ladyinred wrote:If you read the link I posted, he provides a list of his previous employment but omits his work for the past 6+ years with the McCanns.

Here's Clarence's comments on being selected as a Tory candidate for Brighton.

Commenting on his selection, Clarence said:
"Being selected for such an inclusive, diverse, tolerant and culturally vibrant seat as Brighton Pavilion is a huge and exciting privilege. I'm determined to reward the faith that has been placed in me by working tirelessly for all the people of the city, campaigning hard to ensure they not only recover from the failure of Green politics but that they also gain an MP with a strong, distinctive voice in Parliament; one whom they can trust to deliver on local issues. Only a Conservative government will continue to tackle the deficit, reform our welfare system, reduce immigration and give the British people a long overdue referendum on the EU."

Has Clarence moved on to better and bigger things?

So far as I can see he's done something or other about stray dogs and parking which is a long way from the above quote.

It is indeed very interesting that his name/cv/testimonial doesn't include his tireless work for Madeleine and her family. Does Clarence still take payment for the work he does for the McCanns? Does Clarence still work for the McCanns?
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Post by Guest on 30.01.14 18:09

Yes, I understand he's still working for them.  Interesting that he's keeping quiet about his association with the couple.  How's it going to look for the PPC for Brighton Pavilion when their lies are exposed to the wider public.
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Post by aquila on 30.01.14 18:43

@Ladyinred wrote:Yes, I understand he's still working for them.  Interesting that he's keeping quiet about his association with the couple.  How's it going to look for the PPC for Brighton Pavilion when their lies are exposed to the wider public.

I find it hard to accept that Clarence Mitchell is now failing to speak of his involvement (and ongoing involvement if what you say is true Laydinred) when he is now up for possible election as a politician.

Madeleine's name is constantly in the media. Clarence is the media representative of the McCanns as I understand it. I also understand (because I've seen it) that Clarence has made so many 'personal appearances' when representing the McCanns. I understand that Clarence spoke of the Madeleine campaign as something of the perfect PR campaign.

So, why on earth would Clarence not be proud to say he is representing the McCanns and doing his best for Madeleine McCann now he is a prospective politician? He's spent the last six and a half years working on the most high profile missing person case in the UK.
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Post by Guest on 30.01.14 18:46

@aquila wrote:
@Ladyinred wrote:Yes, I understand he's still working for them.  Interesting that he's keeping quiet about his association with the couple.  How's it going to look for the PPC for Brighton Pavilion when their lies are exposed to the wider public.

I find it hard to accept that Clarence Mitchell is now failing to speak of his involvement (and ongoing involvement if what you say is true Laydinred) when he is now up for possible election as a politician.

Madeleine's name is constantly in the media. Clarence is the media representative of the McCanns as I understand it. I also understand (because I've seen it) that Clarence has made so many 'personal appearances' when representing the McCanns. I understand that Clarence spoke of the Madeleine campaign as something of the perfect PR campaign.

So, why on earth would Clarence not be proud to say he is representing the McCanns and doing his best for Madeleine McCann now he is a prospective politician? He's spent the last six and a half years working on the most high profile missing person case in the UK.

Managing to blacken their image irreparably in the process IMO

Look at it this way. Imagine the child was killed on their watch. The PJ offered KH a deal: 2-years and that's it. If they had accepted, they could have been anywhere in the world by now, practicing their profession, anonymous.

The downhill path once chosen has led to worldwide notoriety and ridicule. Their lives must be hell. Their futures are bleak. And the worst is to come: the day the twins discover the alphabet.

Can't say they were counseled wisely, for all the money lavished on their paid flunkey(s)

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Post by tigger on 30.01.14 18:49

Clarence Mitchell stopped working full-time for the McCanns in September 2008. He was then immediately handed a job as a public relations consultant for Freud Communications, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s son-in-law, Matthew Freud. In 2009, David Cameron met Murdoch in his Mediterranean yacht and persuaded Murdoch to switch the support of his newspapers from Labour to Conservative. Just after that, Clarence Mitchell joined the Conservative Party. At the time of writing, Mitchell is the Conservative candidate for the Brighton Pavilion constituency. A useful biography of Clarence Mitchell, titled: ‘A Master Media Manipulator’, can be found here: http://clarencemitchell.webs.com/ On hundreds of occasions, Mitchell has briefed the media, and spoken for the McCanns, who only rarely speak for themselves.

From:  http://whathappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.nl/2013_09_01_archive.html

Eta: the link doesn't work, site frozen, I've hit a few frozen sites tonight on CM - the WiKi entry is also concise to put it nicely.

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Post by aquila on 30.01.14 18:55

When was the last time Clarence Mitchell physically turned up on camera to represent the McCanns?

When was the last time Clarence Mitchell gave a direct quote on behalf of the McCanns?
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Post by Guest on 30.01.14 19:10

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/madeleine-mccann-police-prepare-arrest-3017081

Now you mention it, Aquila, he hasn't recently appeared, or spoken directly, on the couple's behalf. 

Residents of Brighton Pavilion, are you prepared?

(Any forum members live in the area?).
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Post by mysterion on 30.01.14 19:18

Does he have another client or clients? PR people usually do.

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Post by aquila on 30.01.14 19:19

@mysterion wrote:Does he have another client or clients? PR people usually do.

Yes he does, Costa Concordia I believe is one of 'em.
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Post by Doug D on 30.01.14 19:36

Aquila: 'Yes he does, Costa Concordia I believe is one of 'em.'

Wonderful, right on the button!

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Post by Tony Bennett on 30.01.14 20:02

Clarence Mitchell is very successful.

Clarence Mitchell is very sure of himself.

Clarence Mitchell is very confident.

He reminds me a bit of Lance Armstrong in his prime...

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Post by Guest on 30.01.14 20:15

...and we all know what happened to Armstrong.
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Post by Guest on 30.01.14 20:20

@aquila wrote:
@mysterion wrote:Does he have another client or clients? PR people usually do.

Yes he does, Costa Concordia I believe is one of 'em.

Great. A sunk ship to go with a sinking ship.
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Post by Guest on 30.01.14 20:34

He also canvassed during the Eastleigh by-election, but the LibDems held the seat despite the previous incumbent having to resign, and subsequently jailed for perverting the course of justice.  Huhne and his ex are another smug couple who refuse to disappear.  Huhne is now writing for my chosen newspaper on Mondays so I refuse to buy it on that day in protest (OT, sorry).
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Post by Guest on 09.02.14 11:02

@aquila wrote:When was the last time Clarence Mitchell physically turned up on camera to represent the McCanns?

When was the last time Clarence Mitchell gave a direct quote on behalf of the McCanns?

Yes, aquila, it does indeed seem to have gone a lot quieter on the Clarrie front. Maybe he's just got fed up with the whole thing and wants to move on to something else, or maybe he's had second thoughts for whatever reason and he's jumping ship so as not to be around if the wotsit hits the fan. Who knows?
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Post by mysterion on 09.02.14 13:43

If CM was sent by GB to help the Mc Canns, did he retain his Government salary and does he still receive it under the Coalition?

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Post by sallypelt on 09.02.14 16:18

Someone just tweeted this about CM:

@JamesJArbuthnot James Arbuthnot
[url=javascript:;][/url] [url=javascript:;][/url] [url=javascript:;][/url] now

Email CLARENCE MITCHELL &: ASK HIM WHY he's hiding his McCann association from electorate. Expose his #McCann lies http://t.co/0yiNjZDRGd

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