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Post by secrets and lies 18.11.13 15:41

I doubt it. I don't think Mr.McCann is clever or far thinking enough for that.

He has the verbal prowess of an elephant in wellies.
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Post by secrets and lies 18.11.13 15:41

I doubt it. I don't think Mr.McCann is clever or far thinking enough for that.

He has the verbal prowess of an elephant in wellies.
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Post by Jackie Regan 18.11.13 18:37

secrets and lies wrote:I doubt it. I don't think Mr.McCann is clever or far thinking enough for that.

He has the verbal prowess of an elephant in wellies.
OH he is clever.....don't you doubt that.

And I am NOT being sarcastic
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Post by secrets and lies 18.11.13 18:44

Clever? Hmm  cunning, perhaps.

Any keeper of dark secrets would need to be cunning. But he is NOT articulate and pitches his own ability to communicate effectively WAY too high. One of the first things I noticed about him. 

I see a kind of malicious desire for oneupmanship there, a blustering bully, but not a clever man. Too impulsive. Look at all the verbal gaffs thusfar, even with the aid of a script and the best pr advice and coaching.

I don't believe for a second he'd have the subtlety to throw in a line like "almost perfectly formed" in order to make the forums light up. He was merely trying to sound like a doting father in my view. But he's badly miscast in that role and not a very good actor either.

However, if you're theory is correct, Jackie, then I expect he's reading my post right now.
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Post by ultimaThule 18.11.13 19:17

I agree with secrets and lies.  GM stumbles and stammers in those wellies and is way out of his depth when confronted by anyone with more than half a brain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvFkXkVn1I

However, I don't believe he is capable of 'impulsive' action per se; IMO he has a compulsion to commit reckless acts on occasion in order to foster his delusion that he's superior to others.  

Cunning? Yes, to the degree of being able to exploit those who are weaker than he is.  

Clever? Not in the sense of possessing anything more than a distinctly average IQ, albeit that such intelligence as he has is as much enhanced as it is impaired by his lack of conscience and moral scruple. 

Malicious?  Undoubtedly.  GM is a bigger grudge holder than his spouse, but he's as impotent as she is to do anything other than fantasise about revenge and seize the moment to 'get back' at those he feels hatred for if/when opportunity arises to do the deed in such a way as it can't be traced back to the 'all powerful being'.

So, wee Gerry - who will no doubt be perusing this thread sooner rather than later - there's no Nobel prizes for you and no Oscars either.
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Post by Jackie Regan 18.11.13 19:28

Not clever..Really.

He is a major part of one of the biggest mysteries of the 21st Century ..and according to most on here it is him wot dunnit.

..and yet I see not one sign of arrests or similar in the coming months.

I am NOT PRO McCann....BUT some of the dissection of minutiae of verbal content on here is truly laughable.

The facts we do have more than make the MCs very iffy.

Sometimes I think people on here really try to find things that just are not there.
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Post by Smokeandmirrors 18.11.13 19:42

Interesting difference of opinion being expressed here regarding Gerry's "cleverness". I'm in the camp that thinks he isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Yes, he seems to be oily enough to slip from the grasp of justice, but not clever enough to appear innocent to anyone of an IQ above 5.

He would like to be a puppet-master rather than  Pinnochio liar but I think someone with a "wider agenda" is using his arrogance and ego to play him for a right mug. His body language and lack of articulate speech are being exploited by someone who knows he will never turn down an opportunity to act self-important in the public arena, but every time he opens his mouth he shows his inadequacies - it really is a case of the Emperors New Clothes.

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Post by Jackie Regan 18.11.13 19:49

That answer by "smoke and Mirrors" was almost perfect.
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Post by Daisy 18.11.13 19:53

Jackie Regan wrote:Not clever..Really.

He is a major part of one of the biggest mysteries of the 21st Century ..and according to most on here it is him wot dunnit.

..and yet I see not one sign of arrests or similar in the coming months.

I am NOT PRO McCann....BUT some of the dissection of minutiae of verbal content on here is truly laughable.

The facts we do have more than make the MCs very iffy.

Sometimes I think people on here really try to find things that just are not there.
George W Bush, not the brightest of fellas? President of USA. He didn't need to be that bright, he was only the puppet.

Please don't get me started on Bushisms.

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Post by Jackie Regan 18.11.13 20:00

Daisy wrote:

Please don't get me started on Bushisms.
I won't .....I don't recall George saying to Sandra "Ask The Dogs" big grin
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Post by Daisy 18.11.13 20:31

Jackie Regan wrote:
Daisy wrote:

Please don't get me started on Bushisms.
I won't .....I don't recall George saying to Sandra "Ask The Dogs" big grin
Well you wouldn't do, he was more fond of goats. titter

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Post by Jackie Regan 18.11.13 20:38

Daisy wrote:Well you wouldn't do, he was more fond of goats. titter
Are you just "Kidding" Me lol4
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Post by Woburn_exile 18.11.13 21:19

Oh please forget all of this borlox about perfectly formed, almost perfect , perfectly proportioned delicate parts as observed by Kate, David Payne, any other interested party. Concentrate on undebatable facts. Doors blowing closed because the shutters had been jemmied open??? JT sighting a man carrying a child but wanted to spare poor Kateeeeeee so didn't tell her until the following day??????
In the words of DCI Redwwod these are truly revelation wft wft wft moments. Attack and crack the McCann binto and be done with it. I wish I could advise as to how this could be achieved but the mods haven't got my life experience so will not appreciate it. PM me for details .
wft wft wft wft 
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Post by secrets and lies 18.11.13 21:20

Jackie, I thought you were of the opinion the GM threw out the "almost perfectly formed" to tease and tantelise and get all of us worked up into a lather here in forum country? If so, all the minuate of his verbal expressions would be worthy of decoding or at least analysis by us. Non??
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Post by Jackie Regan 18.11.13 22:05

secrets and lies wrote:Jackie, I thought you were of the opinion the GM threw out the "almost perfectly formed" to tease and tantelise and get all of us worked up into a lather here in forum country? If so, all the minuate of his verbal expressions would be worthy of decoding or at least analysis by us. Non??
Certain statements are just not worthy of discussion IMO.

This was one such comment that when I heard it..I just thought OMG...here we go again..muddying very dirty waters with nonsensical comments that Gerry knows full well 99.9% of Joe Public will not be able to:-

A) Understand

and more importantly

B) Gain anything of the slightest relevance if we (or he) Really know what it means .

That is not to say it should not be discussed..it's just my personal opinion on little distractions that are created along the way.

I absolutely take my hat off to the posters on this forum that tirelessly trawl & search for the answers to this case.

But the most absorbing threads are the ones that question the hard issues and facts.
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Post by Mirage 18.11.13 22:08

Jackie Regan wrote:That answer by "smoke and Mirrors" was almost perfect.
Ditto from me. clapping 
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Post by Woburn_exile 18.11.13 22:16

Jackie Regan wrote:
secrets and lies wrote:Jackie, I thought you were of the opinion the GM threw out the "almost perfectly formed" to tease and tantelise and get all of us worked up into a lather here in forum country? If so, all the minuate of his verbal expressions would be worthy of decoding or at least analysis by us. Non??
Certain statements are just not worthy of discussion IMO.

This was one such comment that when I heard it..I just thought OMG...here we go again..muddying very dirty waters with nonsensical comments that Gerry knows full well 99.9% of Joe Public will not be able to:-

A) Understand

and more importantly

B) Gain anything of the slightest relevance if we (or he) Really know what it means .

That is not to say it should not be discussed..it's just my personal opinion on little distractions that are created along the way.

I absolutely take my hat off to the posters on this forum that tirelessly trawl & search for the answers to this case.

But the most absorbing threads are the ones that question the hard issues and facts.
Spot on Jackie thanks. I sometimes wonder about the mods on here who see what is clearly the truth as being Libellous. In light of this statement I am prepared to state that the story about the "Jemmied Shutters" was a complete fabrication.
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Post by tedless 21.11.13 17:07

Have read through the topic but I can't see anywhere any discussion about the 2 men seen arguing in the street mentioned by Andy Redwood. Having watched it again I wondered if it could be 2 of the tapas gents, one being unhappy about what was happening or what he was being asked to say??
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Post by MrsC 21.11.13 19:20

Jackie Regan wrote:
Certain statements are just not worthy of discussion IMO.

This was one such comment that when I heard it..I just thought OMG...here we go again..muddying very dirty waters with nonsensical comments that Gerry knows full well 99.9% of Joe Public will not be able to:-

A) Understand

and more importantly

B) Gain anything of the slightest relevance if we (or he) Really know what it means .

That is not to say it should not be discussed..it's just my personal opinion on little distractions that are created along the way.

I absolutely take my hat off to the posters on this forum that tirelessly trawl & search for the answers to this case.

But the most absorbing threads are the ones that question the hard issues and facts.
Amen to that!

I would imagine Mr & Mrs McCann must have a good ole snigger at some of 'theories' that are discussed on here.

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Post by Smokeandmirrors 21.11.13 20:50

MrsC wrote:
Jackie Regan wrote:
Certain statements are just not worthy of discussion IMO.

This was one such comment that when I heard it..I just thought OMG...here we go again..muddying very dirty waters with nonsensical comments that Gerry knows full well 99.9% of Joe Public will not be able to:-

A) Understand

and more importantly

B) Gain anything of the slightest relevance if we (or he) Really know what it means .

That is not to say it should not be discussed..it's just my personal opinion on little distractions that are created along the way.

I absolutely take my hat off to the posters on this forum that tirelessly trawl & search for the answers to this case.

But the most absorbing threads are the ones that question the hard issues and facts.
Amen to that!

I would imagine Mr & Mrs McCann must have a good ole snigger at some of 'theories' that are discussed on here.
Or they might be living in a state of complete "fury" that we won't let it drop! When they see how many people are online here at any one time, and overall many thousands of visitors in addition to registered members, including journalists, most likely the police, and anyone who Googles "McCann", which over the years could be MILLIONS of passing traffic from all around the world, the energy of their rage could probably keep a medium sized power station going.

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Post by MarleneP 26.11.13 9:28

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28/11/2013

DURATION: 1 HOUR

The team are live with Britain's biggest unsolved cases including, following a special appeal, the latest developments in the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Also featuring crimes caught on camera in Martin Bayfield's CCTV round up and a new collection of wanted faces.

Detectives from across the UK are in the studio ready to take your calls and there are updates on the latest cases to have been cracked thanks to Crimewatch viewers.

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MarleneP wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03k2gbr


CRIMEWATCH ON BBC  ***Part 2 DISCUSSION**** including CRIMEWATCH UPDATE (for what it was worth) - Page 11 Bbccrimewatch281113a2

28/11/2013

DURATION: 1 HOUR

The team are live with Britain's biggest unsolved cases including, following a special appeal, the latest developments in the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Also featuring crimes caught on camera in Martin Bayfield's CCTV round up and a new collection of wanted faces.

Detectives from across the UK are in the studio ready to take your calls and there are updates on the latest cases to have been cracked thanks to Crimewatch viewers.

(...)

Broadcasts

Thu 28 Nov 2013
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So, the day after the Lisbon libel trial comes the Crimewatch update.
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Post by tiny 26.11.13 11:33

aquila wrote:
MarleneP wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03k2gbr


CRIMEWATCH ON BBC  ***Part 2 DISCUSSION**** including CRIMEWATCH UPDATE (for what it was worth) - Page 11 Bbccrimewatch281113a2

28/11/2013

DURATION: 1 HOUR

The team are live with Britain's biggest unsolved cases including, following a special appeal, the latest developments in the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Also featuring crimes caught on camera in Martin Bayfield's CCTV round up and a new collection of wanted faces.

Detectives from across the UK are in the studio ready to take your calls and there are updates on the latest cases to have been cracked thanks to Crimewatch viewers.

(...)

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Thu 28 Nov 2013
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So, the day after the Lisbon libel trial comes the Crimewatch update.
oh gawd,they are not looking for more suspects to pin this on.CRIMEWATCH ON BBC  ***Part 2 DISCUSSION**** including CRIMEWATCH UPDATE (for what it was worth) - Page 11 181747
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Post by PeterMac 26.11.13 12:06

tiny wrote:oh gawd,they are not looking for more suspects to pin this on.
No problem. Step forward Octopus man and Spider man
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Post by Liz Eagles 26.11.13 12:11

PeterMac wrote:
tiny wrote:oh gawd,they are not looking for more suspects to pin this on.
No problem. Step forward Octopus man and Spider man
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2 distinctly different creatures. 2 e-fits......


and here we have.....Spoctopusman
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