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Re: Tanner created a difficult Spanner.....

Post by tigger on 10.11.13 14:15

@bellum wrote:The worst of this sighting is that Jane Tanner  "recognized' Murat, when he was crossing the street, in a reconstrution.
There was NO reconstruction.  NO reconstruction. JT was in a car with blacked out windows and identified Murat as the abductor she had seen whn he passed by.

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Re: Tanner created a difficult Spanner.....

Post by PeterMac on 10.11.13 14:34

@Copodenieve wrote:Well, trying to look on the positive side...if Smithman is for real, I think it will be proven eventually that it was GM, and if Smithman didn´t exist, then that would mean the elimination of the only shred of evidence they have that indicates towards an abduction. Either way GM will have to start answering some questions. (just my opinion too )
Which is what TB has put on another thread.
There was evidence for abduction.
1 The McCanns say there was an aduction
2 Tannerman.

Now that Tannerman has been turned into Crecheman, the situation has changed and the evidence for abduction is now
1 The McCanns say there was an abduction
2 Smithman

If Smithman turns into Gerry, or Crecheman2, or proves not to have existed in the first place, the evidence for abduction remains . . .
1 The McCanns say there was an abduction.

It is as simple as that.
As for GM answering questions, why would he start now ? And who would be posing them ?

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Re: Tanner created a difficult Spanner.....

Post by bellum on 10.11.13 14:50

For quite some time I was following this forum (and others too) without taking part of it. I found that some posters could be rude to others and that did not please me.
Now I notice that the ambiance here changed a lot. Posters just discuss opinions without being rude.
Have the rules that guide this forum being changed?  There are so many new posters and that could also be the reason
why they staterted being part of it.
Or am I wrong?

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Post by Guest on 10.11.13 15:05

@bellum wrote:For quite some time I was following this forum (and others too) without taking part of it. I found that some posters could be rude to others and that did not please me.
Now I notice that the ambiance here changed a lot. Posters just discuss opinions without being rude.
Have the rules that guide this forum being changed?  There are so many new posters and that could also be the reason
why they staterted being part of it.
Or am I wrong?
bellum I don't know what the question has to do with this topic.  Nothing has changed here, rules have always been the same ie.   
NO libellous posts
 
No disruptive posts
 
No attacks on members


 
 ALL posters are treated the same here.
 
Now back to the topic.
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Post by bellum on 10.11.13 15:22

OK back to the post.
It is high time that the reconstruction will be made. This is taking much too long. How many Scotland Yard's officers are there in Faro right now and what are they doing for goodness sake?

How many of those 41 persons of interest have being interrogate and are the Mcanns among them?

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Post by Guest on 10.11.13 15:27

@PeterMac wrote:
@Copodenieve wrote:Well, trying to look on the positive side...if Smithman is for real, I think it will be proven eventually that it was GM, and if Smithman didn´t exist, then that would mean the elimination of the only shred of evidence they have that indicates towards an abduction. Either way GM will have to start answering some questions. (just my opinion too )
Which is what TB has put on another thread.
There was evidence for abduction.
1  The McCanns say there was an aduction
2  Tannerman.

Now that Tannerman has been turned into Crecheman, the situation has changed and the evidence for abduction is now
1  The McCanns say there was an abduction
2  Smithman

If Smithman turns into Gerry, or Crecheman2, or proves not to have existed in the first place, the evidence for abduction remains . . .
1  The McCanns say there was an abduction.

It is as simple as that.
As for GM answering questions, why would he start now ? And who would be posing them ?
As he's probably reading along with this Forum, he might conceive the idea of writing his own book: madeleine, A Version Of The Truth 2.0
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Post by Copodenieve on 10.11.13 15:43

Hello Peter Mac, just like to say I have enjoyed reading all your posts and have learnt a lot from you and others on here. 

TBH I keep changing my mind as to whether Smithman is real or not but finally came to the conclusion that either way it still doesn´t look good for the McCann´s. 

When I said that GM will have to answer questions, it was more wishful thinking on my part and obviously I was hoping against all odds that he might finally tell the truth. big grin
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Post by suzyjohnson on 10.11.13 16:55

@bellum wrote:The worst of this sighting is that Jane Tanner  "recognized' Murat, when he was crossing the street, in a reconstrution.
And then helped draw up a picture of someone who looked completely different

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Post by suzyjohnson on 10.11.13 17:25

Is it me or have the pictures of Smithman disappeared from the find madeleine website? The Crimewatch programme is there which includes the Efits but not the pictures by themselves.

Tannerman is still there though.

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Post by sami on 10.11.13 17:34

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@suzyjohnson wrote:Is it me or have the pictures of Smithman disappeared from the find madeleine website? The Crimewatch programme is there which includes the Efits but not the pictures by themselves.

Tannerman is still there though.
Yes the metro police landing page is gone for me too.

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Post by Guest on 10.11.13 17:58

Gone for me too
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TANNERMAN IS STILL THERE

Post by PeterMac on 10.11.13 19:39

What the HELL are they playing at ?
http://www.findmadeleine.com/campaigns/unidentified_people.html
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FRAUD, in a word.

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Post by chillyheat on 10.11.13 19:47

Like I said, did the Smiths actually do any efits....Perhaps they have sought legal advice

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 10.11.13 19:48

Yes it is FRAUD!! SY said to an audience of MILLIONS this has been officially discounted, so they are sticking a middle finger up to the police IMO.

Andy Redwood comments that they are working alongside the McCanns is BS IMO. I bet their application to be "Assistantes" to the Portugese process is REFUSED.

Roll on the end of November and the Libel Trial judgement.

This continuing display of a DISCOUNTED efit makes me think the McCanns are NOT as cosy with SY as we are being told.

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Post by sami on 10.11.13 20:01

@Smokeandmirrors wrote:Yes it is FRAUD!! SY said to an audience of MILLIONS this has been officially discounted, so they are sticking a middle finger up to the police IMO.

Andy Redwood comments that they are working alongside the McCanns is BS IMO. I bet their application to be "Assistantes" to the Portugese process is REFUSED.
Have they made the application yet ?  I will be absolutely stunned if they make it.

Perhaps somebody should call the hotline on the FM website and tell them about the innocent British father.  They could replace Tannerman with Andy Redwoods sideways man photo, because I would really, really like to know who he is.

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Post by chillyheat on 10.11.13 20:21

Arrests soon ?....

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Post by Mirage on 10.11.13 23:03

@ChillyHeat wrote:Arrests soon ?....
I've a feeling you're not far wide of the mark. I have a sense of this playing out all of a sudden. One thing is certain, the public are sick of the McCanns and angry that they have not been dealt with yet. It is a real scandal and action is needed pdq to restore faith in the police.

Why these two have received preferential treatment over all these years will be a matter for close scrutiny once these two have received just punishment.

I put this scandal on a higher level than the Dreyfus affair. We need anothrr Zola, another J'accuse and a free press.

Just like the nineteenth century!

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Post by View-from-Ireland on 11.11.13 0:22

Two things strike me about their website. 

1. 'About us' comes before 'About Madeleine'.

2. This piece of text: 'These two pictures show a man carrying a child away from the family's apartment'




Show a man carrying a child away from the apartment? Even without Crimewatch this is such a stretch. It is written in such a way as to imply it is known fact that this man abducted Madeleine. Not only is it not a 'known fact', SY have discounted this sighting!


It is maddening to see what they are up to. 

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