Re: GERMAN VERSION OF CRIMEWATCH- Totally different to ours

by ultimaThule on 17.10.13 2:08

@Karen Pinto wrote:note at 21: 54 Gerry slips up and says "how much we LOVED her"?? I think the reporter asked Gerry what he would say to Madeleine

I heard that too, Karen...the interviewer asks what they'd tell Madeleine if they saw her again and GM replied they'd tell her 'how much we loved her'.

Earlier (didn't note time), asked how their lives are different without her, GM ends a sentence with 'it's not the same' and smiles.

Towards the end of their recorded interview, GM says when he checked the children it was 'the last time I saw her' and smirks.

by jeanmonroe on 17.10.13 2:56

German re-con

Cuddle cat in KM hands when Gerry comes in patio door after child gone.

Sheets were halfway down bed and messed up.

No 'pink' blanket

UK re-con

Sheets pulled up and neat just corner turned down.

Cuddle cat on pillow.

So presumeably she remade the bed and 'placed' Cuddle cat on pillow.

Pink blanket 'placed' by pillow.

All nicely ready for the PJ to 'photograph!

A scam is a scam is a scam.

by russiandoll on 17.10.13 8:01

jean: I think they could show 20 different VERSIONS of CW with a variety of UNIMPORTANT background CLUTTER. [e.g UK CW , McCann family arrived with buggy, despite claims to contrary]

The constant in them all would have to be what we saw in UK and Germany: THE CHECKS.

They are set in concrete, statements and Kate's book based on the files.

In both, also in Dutch and Norwegian and one shown in Siberia, we would still see

Gerry leaving table at 9.05

Matt at 9.30

Kate at 10pm.

Jez and Gerry could be on whatever side of street.

THERE WAS NO ABDUCTOR AROUND AT 9.15.

SO THE DOOR CANT BE EXPLAINED.

The door to the children's room : there is no reason for it to be open wider than it was.
First stated to have been IMMEDIATELY noticeable by Gerry at 9.05.

When Maddie had not moved, the only explanation for its changed position.

G checked their room, no M.

Looked in children's room, Maddie lying in bed EXACTLY as they had left her at 8.30. Twins fast asleep and could not get out of travel cots if awake.

That is how they are trapped imo.

THE DOOR IS A FABRICATION TO FIT IN WITH STICKER BOOK TIMELINES AND TANNERMAN : BUT THERE IS NO REASON FOR IT TO BE OPEN WITHOUT TANNERMAN. IT WAS FIRST NOTICED BY GERRY, IMMEDIATELY UPON ENTERING 5A.

AND IT CAN'T BE THE WIND, BECAUSE THE WIND MADE THE DOOR SLAM SHUT WHEN KATE CHECKED.

The elimination of Tannerman has done it for them.

by russiandoll on 17.10.13 8:29

Quote : GM says when he checked the children it was 'the last time I saw her' and smirks.

he can smirk all he likes, he can't rewrite history. The bedroom door was open wider when he did his 9.05 check. Allegedly.

To fit in with Tannerman who did not exist.

Hubris was always going to be his undoing .

And MO is the one who might well talk now if he has not done so already.

But if they have all been interviewed again, SY won't need to talk to any of them a second time.

all imo as always !

by Montclair on 17.10.13 8:45

Obviously, the German recon was made when it was still thought that the Tanner sighting was significant. Does this mean that the McCanns were not aware of SY's information regarding the tourist who could be Tannerman? Does this mean that SY does not tell them everything?

by MoonGoddess on 17.10.13 9:30

I do wonder if SY are playing 'spot the difference' with the T9...

not really a difference, but I noticed Gerry checking his watch before he did his check...

“None of them were wearing watches or had mobile phones on them that night”.

It is also now known from the McCanns’ statements to the Police, which have been publicly released, that the McCanns both had mobile ’phones with them that evening. As their official spokesman, Mitchell must surely have been briefed on this before he made his statement.

http://clarencemitchell.webs.com/

I like to think that SY are toying with them, rather than sloppy directing...

by Praiaaa on 17.10.13 9:33

Trying to connect to the link, just get a message that as I am outside Germany I cannot view it - how have others got around it - after the comments above, I really want to see it!

by Guest on 17.10.13 9:49

Did anyone think it odd that they showed a plastic duck twice floating in water....once in the pool, and once in the sea being lapped onto shore in the waves? Very odd

GM I thought mentioned the door being opened wider when he went to check at 9.05 ish........how no-one had checked before then.

by Angelique on 17.10.13 9:54

candyfloss

I haven't been able to see the German programme. But I was only thinking yesterday that every country has a different style of advertising, shows etc. and maybe in Germany showing a little plastic duck relates to children. i.e Madeleine.

However, in the past it has been used to represent something else but in this case I don't think there is any connection other than children.

by Smokeandmirrors on 17.10.13 9:56

@Angelique wrote:candyfloss

I haven't been able to see the German programme. But I was only thinking yesterday that every country has a different style of advertising, shows etc. and maybe in Germany showing a little plastic duck relates to children. i.e Madeleine.

However, in the past it has been used to represent something else but in this case I don't think there is any connection other than children.

Are you able to say what, Angelique? If you can't say for some reason would you be able to PM? Intrigued.

by Smokeandmirrors on 17.10.13 10:01

Trying to look at the German one, I get a message presumably saying I can't watch it as outside the Deutschlands!

by Angelique on 17.10.13 10:04

@Smokeandmirrors wrote:
@Angelique wrote:candyfloss

I haven't been able to see the German programme. But I was only thinking yesterday that every country has a different style of advertising, shows etc. and maybe in Germany showing a little plastic duck relates to children. i.e Madeleine.

However, in the past it has been used to represent something else but in this case I don't think there is any connection other than children.
Are you able to say what, Angelique? If you can't say for some reason would you be able to PM? Intrigued.

Smokeandmirrors

Another word similar but you change "d" for ?

I truly believe this representation in the German programme with a duck left on its own floating really means the child disappeared and left the toy behind. Its not anything else IMO.

by Upsy Daisy on 17.10.13 10:09

Remember AR did say during the UK programme that this was just ONE theory they were working on. Perhaps this German recon is another?

by Guest on 17.10.13 10:19

@Smokeandmirrors wrote:Trying to look at the German one, I get a message presumably saying I can't watch it as outside the Deutschlands!

I have just looked, it was ok last night, but seems to have been whooshed now!!

by jeanmonroe on 17.10.13 10:22

SO.

Is it SY/UK taxpayer paying for McCanns for a jolly around Europe?

Or is it their private 'fund' paying for Redwood for a jolly around Europe?

Notice how he 'kept his distance' from them on UK Crimewatch.

Not so in Germany!

Probably WHY we in the UK can't see it anymore!

"Investigating officer" DCI Redwood/McCanns joined at the hip, outside UK only!

eta: If we have a German poster would it be possible to get the German 'crimewatch' video 22mins long.
Thankyou.
Danke Schoen.

by Mélusine on 17.10.13 10:22

@Praiaaa wrote:Trying to connect to the link, just get a message that as I am outside Germany I cannot view it - how have others got around it - after the comments above, I really want to see it!

It worked for me about an hour ago. I'm not in Germany, but quite near.

by bristow on 17.10.13 10:24

Maybe the duck in the pool and the sea is representing a child who wandered off and drowned - or a child that was put in a pool or the sea after a tragic accident?
Just a thought.

by Mélusine on 17.10.13 10:26

@Angelique wrote:
@Smokeandmirrors wrote:
@Angelique wrote:candyfloss

I haven't been able to see the German programme. But I was only thinking yesterday that every country has a different style of advertising, shows etc. and maybe in Germany showing a little plastic duck relates to children. i.e Madeleine.

However, in the past it has been used to represent something else but in this case I don't think there is any connection other than children.
Are you able to say what, Angelique? If you can't say for some reason would you be able to PM? Intrigued.
Smokeandmirrors

Another word similar but you change "d" for ?

I truly believe this representation in the German programme with a duck left on its own floating really means the child disappeared and left the toy behind. Its not anything else IMO.

I saw the programme and the duck in the pool really made me wonder...

by MoonGoddess on 17.10.13 10:27

@Angelique wrote:
@Smokeandmirrors wrote:
@Angelique wrote:candyfloss

I haven't been able to see the German programme. But I was only thinking yesterday that every country has a different style of advertising, shows etc. and maybe in Germany showing a little plastic duck relates to children. i.e Madeleine.

However, in the past it has been used to represent something else but in this case I don't think there is any connection other than children.
Are you able to say what, Angelique? If you can't say for some reason would you be able to PM? Intrigued.
Smokeandmirrors

Another word similar but you change "d" for ?

I truly believe this representation in the German programme with a duck left on its own floating really means the child disappeared and left the toy behind. Its not anything else IMO.

I picked up on the ducks.... I immediately thought of the phrase "Get your ducks in a row..."

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/get+ducks+in+a+row

by Angelique on 17.10.13 10:36

@MoonGoddess wrote:I picked up on the ducks.... I immediately thought of the phrase "Get your ducks in a row..."

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/get+ducks+in+a+row

Yes I expect it could be that as well.

Was there more than one?

I didn't catch the programme. Are Germans still watching Smiley?

by jeanmonroe on 17.10.13 10:54

DUTCH 'CRIMEWATCH'

http://www.eenvandaag.nl/buitenland/47469/maddie_mccann_nieuwe_reconstructie_?autoplay=1

I'm downloading before 'whooshed'

(hopefully i'll get it)

Mainly 'smithman' no actual 're-con' with people walking up and down to apartment.

Redwood HAS moved the 'timeline' to 'smithman' ignoring EVERYTHING from 8:30-10:00pm, 3rd May 2007.

by Praiaaa on 17.10.13 10:59

Just managed to to see it. What a load of tripe! All that happy family bedtime stuff - given what we have seen of KM personality - not very likely. Also cuddle cat - I thought he had been put on a high shelf? Seen here in bed.

by jeanmonroe on 17.10.13 11:05

@Praiaaa wrote:Just managed to to see it. What a load of tripe! All that happy family bedtime stuff - given what we have seen of KM personality - not very likely. Also cuddle cat - I thought he had been put on a high shelf? Seen here in bed.

Can you download it, please.

by Julchen on 17.10.13 11:10

Hi all,
I know ZDF are awful with their viewing outside Germany policy. I've struggled with that many times before.(hate it!)

I had a look on Youtube Germany and found the HD video. Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqA-ZTjG5Q

Jule

by MRNOODLES on 17.10.13 11:13

@Julchen wrote:Hi all,
I know ZDF are awful with their viewing outside Germany policy. I've struggled with that many times before.(hate it!)

I had a look on Youtube Germany and found the HD video. Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqA-ZTjG5Q

Jule