ON SKY NOW Madeleine McCann Investigation 15th October 2013

by Guest 15.10.13 20:42

8.30 re Madeleine

Part two coming up

Interesting

by whmon 15.10.13 20:43

Programme is strongly implicating GM.

by Smokeandmirrors 15.10.13 20:44

Veeerryyy interesting - slightly more promising than last night IMO!

by russiandoll 15.10.13 20:45

plenty of empty apartments down by coastal area

not a way out of town

MWT ,,, re Smithman, no names, but it was even stated who the witness thought this man was.

AND THE E FITS WERE WITH MCCANNS P IS FOR 5 YRS.

This has imo all been done with the help of SY.

just noticed on the re run of Tanner sighting....the man carried the child with the head facing JT...HOW DID SHE SEE ANY PJS???!!

by russiandoll 15.10.13 20:52

Peter Smith talking to Sky guy...... would he consider hypnosis to try to recall the man as he said he would need hypnotising.

Re the new timeline : Smithman does not fit with a planned abduction...best time to strike straight after a check. too risky otherwise. [ MWT ]

are you going to walk 2 blocks away in a busy area.......you would use a vehicle immediately. [ so not a planned abduction then ]

also MWT at least one person knows what happened and maybe more. Have courage to put an end to this...

longer it goes on more difficult it is to remain quiet.

by sweetex 15.10.13 20:59

Sorry, lol so much going on, who is Peter Smith? The son? or is there no relation to the Smith's

I can't watch the broadcast Sad

by russiandoll 15.10.13 21:03

Peter not the main witness who thought it was GM...part of the holiday family. Martin Smith was the guy who thought he had recognised GM.

and MWT was a revelation!

by **PeterMac** 15.10.13 21:04

Someone record it. PLEASE
My Sky has gone down. Wrong sort of satellite.

by Guest 15.10.13 21:06

Yes, much better than the Crimewatch programme. Some good stuff and some not so good.

From memory so not definite.........

Photofits created in 2008 by PI's and not given much significance till now

MWT

PJ had infor in 2008 and to a degree knew who that photofit may have been

They may now have CCCTV footage which had not been looked at before

Significantly the man did not take a route out of town

PJ new about sighting back in 2008 and dismissed it

Redwood want to absolutely rule out innocent sightings

MWT saying effectively too many photofits issued.......people will be confused

SY 2/3 of way through files

Cost 5 million

Spoke to Martin Smith and Peter Smith on phone

MWT - asking why would abductor walk 2 blocks away, why wouldn't he have waiting car.

The above is only from memory so maybe not accurate.

by maebee 15.10.13 21:13

PeterMac wrote:Someone record it. PLEASE
My Sky has gone down. Wrong sort of satellite.

I have it recorded Peter. I really struggled to watch. Lots of mentions of "the day of Madeleine's abduction", "what her parents have been put through" etc. longer post intended but have to go offline now.

by TellTheTruth 15.10.13 21:18

In this reconstruction didn't "The Abductor" go out through the door? What happened to the window story? sad

by Guest 15.10.13 21:24

Sorry, can't help it, it's late; good NZ white w(h)ine and all that:

It went right out of the window

by Seek truth 15.10.13 21:36

ITV 10.25 tonight. Goncalo Amaral will be talking, I think.

by Woofer 15.10.13 21:51

"PJ new about sighting back in 2008 and dismissed it"

But Gonçalo Amaral didn`t - he had arranged to re-interview the Smiths and that`s when he got moved.

by Guest 15.10.13 22:01

Woofer wrote:"PJ new about sighting back in 2008 and dismissed it"

But Gonçalo Amaral didn`t - he had arranged to re-interview the Smiths and that`s when he got moved.

Exactly, the Smith's had already had one interview, and of course the PJ were looking for a needle in a haystack finding an anonymous man, it wasn't until Smith make his second statement after the McCanns had returned home In September his memory was jogged and he contacted the police to make a second statement.

Goncalo was in the process of trying to get him to Portugal when he was suddenly taken off the case. IIRC all that correctly.

by russiandoll 15.10.13 22:06

The people of interest were Jacqui Hames and MWT not the Sky reporters imo.

There was a definite mention of PIs having those 2 e fits in their files since 2008.

There was a mention of GA and his attention to Smith sighting, which I forgot about.

There was a definite opinion re this sighting not fitting with a planned abduction.

There was no mention of an opportunistic abduction, but disturbing a burglary mentioned re recent break ins.

There was a clear statement that an abductor doing a recce would have entered 5a immediately after a check.`

There was a statement about empty apartments at the coastline and that the route taken was not a route out of town

Basically, the conclusion appeared to be that there was no targeted abduction and the man on his way towards the beach was doing something different , not leaving PdL with his victim.

by ChippyM 15.10.13 22:08

Amaral said
[quote=It cannot be that way, because nobody knows for sure at what time the things happened. The reconstruction was not made, therefore it is impossible to know for certain. The employees do not state that Gerry McCann was in the restaurant. They only say that people were sitting down and getting up from the table. Their testimony [Smith] is very credible. The way that the person walked, the clumsy manner in which the child was held. It is nothing that sounds invented. Is it evidence? Certainly not. It is information that has to be worked further.][/quote]

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

In 2008 he knew this sighting needed looking at more closely and that Gerry may not have been in the restaurant.

I hope he gets a chance, or chances to repeat all this to the brainwashed UK public!

by russiandoll 15.10.13 22:13

we are free to point news editors to the relevant part of the files. As John Luckman said on Sky today, SY have come to the same conclusion as detective Amaral re the significance of Smith sighting [ JL produces Portugal News]

by Guest 15.10.13 22:20

They were saying on Sky News that many people had phoned in with the same name of the Smith sighting titter

by Woofer 15.10.13 22:24

russiandoll wrote:The people of interest were Jacqui Hames and MWT not the Sky reporters imo.

There was a definite mention of PIs having those 2 e fits in their files since 2008.

There was a mention of GA and his attention to Smith sighting, which I forgot about.

There was a definite opinion re this sighting not fitting with a planned abduction.

There was no mention of an opportunistic abduction, but disturbing a burglary mentioned re recent break ins.

There was a clear statement that an abductor doing a recce would have entered 5a immediately after a check.`

There was a statement about empty apartments at the coastline and that the route taken was not a route out of town

Basically, the conclusion appeared to be that there was no targeted abduction and the man on his way towards the beach was doing something different , not leaving PdL with his victim.

Thanks RD. I do hope someone has recorded it as I`d like to see it.

by maebee 15.10.13 22:26

admin wrote:They were saying on Sky News that many people had phoned in with the same name of the Smith sighting

Answers on a post card please. Begins with G and ends with M.

by stillsloppingout 15.10.13 23:31

maebee wrote:
admin wrote:They were saying on Sky News that many people had phoned in with the same name of the Smith sighting

Answers on a post card please. Begins with G and ends with M.

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