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Post by PeterMac on 16.10.13 12:02

People are talking about distances and time to walk from the apartment to the Smith sighting.
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Post by ultimaThule on 16.10.13 12:03

I believe it's known in the trade as 'bang to rights' big grin
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Post by Guest on 16.10.13 12:23

@PeterMac wrote:People are talking about distances and time to walk from the apartment to the Smith sighting.
This is from maps.googleFOR NEW MEMBERS Smiths` Descriptions of Man Carrying Child + Mr Amaral's description in book - Page 2 <a href=FOR NEW MEMBERS Smiths` Descriptions of Man Carrying Child + Mr Amaral's description in book - Page 2 Smith_12" />
Have put this post of the new thread you started in here PeterMac
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Post by Daisy on 16.10.13 12:41

@russiandoll wrote:did not see the news on C4 but this was on twitter


Shhhh! @Wonderwoody1 32m
According to Channel 4 news those e-fits have been sitting in #McCann private investigators files for 5 years+ & never passed to PT police.

  please watch this.......it is very important if true.

 Channel 4 news re the e fits......SITTING AROUND FOR 5 YEARS.


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Thanks for posting RD.

Someone has some very uncomfortable questions to answer. How the heck are they going to explain this one away?

Credit to Joana Morais site

"The McCanns contacted the Irish Smith family, which says they saw Gerry, to a certainty of 60 to 80 percent, carrying a little girl towards the beach, on the evening when Maddie disappeared. But the contact was apparently made with the purpose of drawing a photofit of the alleged abductor, according to what the Irishman told the police in his country.

In the Maddie case process, this contact was reportedly made by Brian Kennedy, the Scottish millionaire who financially helped the McCanns in the search for their daughter. The Irish officer who questions M. Smith, in Dublin, writes in his communication to the Portuguese police that Smith refused to participate in the making of the photofit and that he did not tell the story of what he saw to the McCanns’ friend."

For those not familiar with this aspect read more: http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccanns-contacted-witness-that.html

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Post by Searcher on 17.10.13 11:23

[Admin pse merge - I can't find the thread with PeterMac and TB's posts this morning.]  Just wanted to add a thought or two.  PM/TB were discussing how unlikely it could be for someone to carry child through streets; a car or other means would be found.

That is very sensible, but I put myself in the shoes of that person.  I am in a very quiet resort, out of season, there is hardly anyone about, it is late, dark.  There is no media frenzy, nothing to answer; it may look surprisingly "safe" to be on the streets.  Just my thought but - while in the current context it seems entirely strange - in circumstances at the time it could have felt a reasonable option.  And if there was no car available, perhaps the only option.
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Post by Hicks on 17.10.13 11:51

I have to go to work now so don't have time to look for the statement I want to post.

It could have been Mathew Oldfield I 'm not sure. MO did a check at 9.30( I think) on returning he says that GM got up to do a check, MO told GM that he had listening by the wall(?)of 5a and all was quiet, however GM still went off to check leaving MO feeling a bit disappointed that GM didn't trust him, or something along those lines.
I can't be sure but I seem to remember that MO said GM was away front he table for 30 minutes, could have been someone else.
This would mean that GM was away from the table during the Smith sighting. I would imagine GM is very fit, what with all the sport he plays, it is reasonable to assume that he would find it easy to sprint all the way back to the OC.

I would imagine that GM had help, perhaps he was taking M to an empty property courtesy of that person, perhaps M had overdosed on sleeping pills and finally died in this property.
Just my opinion.
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Post by Guest on 17.10.13 11:55

@Searcher wrote:[Admin pse merge - I can't find the thread with PeterMac and TB's posts this morning.]  Just wanted to add a thought or two.  PM/TB were discussing how unlikely it could be for someone to carry child through streets; a car or other means would be found.

That is very sensible, but I put myself in the shoes of that person.  I am in a very quiet resort, out of season, there is hardly anyone about, it is late, dark.  There is no media frenzy, nothing to answer; it may look surprisingly "safe" to be on the streets.  Just my thought but - while in the current context it seems entirely strange - in circumstances at the time it could have felt a reasonable option.  And if there was no car available, perhaps the only option.
Merged with this one Searcher.
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Post by Searcher on 17.10.13 11:59

Thankyou!
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Post by Cristobell on 17.10.13 12:12

The McCanns have always known about the Smith sighting, why didn't they publicise it?  http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/
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Post by russiandoll on 17.10.13 12:30

candyfloss wrote:
@Searcher wrote:[Admin pse merge - I can't find the thread with PeterMac and TB's posts this morning.]  Just wanted to add a thought or two.  PM/TB were discussing how unlikely it could be for someone to carry child through streets; a car or other means would be found.

That is very sensible, but I put myself in the shoes of that person.  I am in a very quiet resort, out of season, there is hardly anyone about, it is late, dark.  There is no media frenzy, nothing to answer; it may look surprisingly "safe" to be on the streets.  Just my thought but - while in the current context it seems entirely strange - in circumstances at the time it could have felt a reasonable option.  And if there was no car available, perhaps the only option.
Merged with this one Searcher.
  so opportunistic then because a planned abduction would have  a vehicle for speedy exit whatever the circumstances ?

 AR has made no ref to the opportunistic theory as such afaik... what would have alerted a stranger that there was a child to be snatched?

 long unattended crying perhaps but that was not on 3rd.

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Post by Stevienix on 17.10.13 15:07

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-accuses-2433328




Have been browsing this forum a lot over the past few days and wanted to share this article from the mirror. 
They seem to have gotten hold of Martin Smith and he hasn't mentioned Gerry at all. Just wondering what everyone else thinks?
Oh and hi, I'm a newly converted semi-sceptic after the Crimewatch p*** take :)
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Post by Guest on 17.10.13 15:12

@Stevienix wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-accuses-2433328




Have been browsing this forum a lot over the past few days and wanted to share this article from the mirror. 
They seem to have gotten hold of Martin Smith and he hasn't mentioned Gerry at all. Just wondering what everyone else thinks?
Oh and hi, I'm a newly converted semi-sceptic after the Crimewatch p*** take :)
Hi Stevienix and welcome. The story was posted on a thread, and I have put your post here on the Smith thread.
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Post by tiny on 17.10.13 15:24

candyfloss wrote:
@Stevienix wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-accuses-2433328




Have been browsing this forum a lot over the past few days and wanted to share this article from the mirror. 
They seem to have gotten hold of Martin Smith and he hasn't mentioned Gerry at all. Just wondering what everyone else thinks?
Oh and hi, I'm a newly converted semi-sceptic after the Crimewatch p*** take :)
Hi Stevienix and welcome.  The story was posted on a thread, and I have put your post here on the Smith thread.
like all the msm they only print half of what people say or twist words,he might have mention Gerry but for some reason it didn't get put in that article
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Post by Stevienix on 17.10.13 15:41

That was my thought too Tiny, though I also have a sneaking suspicion that he just doesn't want to involve himself in the media circus. Perhaps he's told SY and that's good enough for him?
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Post by tiny on 17.10.13 16:52

@Stevienix wrote:That was my thought too Tiny, though I also have a sneaking suspicion that he just doesn't want to involve himself in the media circus. Perhaps he's told SY and that's good enough for him?
I think your right about the media circus,perhaps he didnt want to go into great detail again as he has said his piece in his statement and I think that would do for him because as you know saying any thing against the mccanns and you get torn to bits by some of these so called journo,s
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Post by Searcher on 17.10.13 17:06

Welcome Steviemix [I'm fairly new too]; the Express today didn't mention it either!spit coffee
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