Sunday Express - ACCEPTED VERSION OF EVENTS IS WRONG and DAILYSTAR - WHAT YOU KNOW IS NOT THE TRUTH

@Woofer wrote:

@MissDaisy wrote:

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@I'm not buying wrote:I was listening to the 6 o'clock news on BBC Radio 4. It said that SY had brought together information from 10 separate investigations into Madeleine's disappearance. 

There was the PJ investigation, Leicester police, 3 firms of Private detectives and SY itself... Can anyone add to that list?

Does this mean that they have taken into account information supplied by 'armchair detectives' and 'internet nutters'?

Yewtree?

Elvedon?

I heard that and noticed they said 10 separate investigations.
1. PJ
2. Leicester Police
3. Dave Edgar
4. Metodo 3
5. Kevin Halligen
6. Scotland Yard (if they are counting themselves)?
7. Yewtree - Jimmy Savile and others ?
8. Elvedon - Inappropriate payments to police by News International ?
9. Operation Ore - targetting people downloading images of child abuse, maybe ?

Could another one be the separate Portuguese investigation by the Porto police ?

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

@Dr What wrote:I suppose even if one or both of the McCanns have to face the consequences, perhaps they have calculated that the £3 million in the 'bank' will not only pay for anything that their close and wider family need, but the majority of it will still be there as and when they will be in a position to enjoy it once they have served any sentence.Lose their jobs, but more than enough to start a new life somewhere.

@marxman wrote:Regarding the question of 'protection', I'm not certain that they
did receive protection from one shadowy entity, but rather from
various strands, starting with Tony Blair then Gordon Brown for
pure political reasons, this in turn ignited and perpetuated a train
that all other strands of society/public opinion/media jumped upon
believing that TB and GB must be right. When the Pinky Poodle
was sent, this cemented this perception and with his contacts and
skills in media manipulation a veil of protection was established.
However, protection of any sort, is only as good and lasts as long
as the protector exists or has the inclination to continue.
If you think about it, all their backers have disembarked this train,
and no new ones are foreseen.

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

@nobodythereeither wrote:

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

Dr Amaral's dog apparently died in suspicious circumstances, iirc.

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

Just want to say thanks to you all, I've been trying to get through these pages since yesterday and everytime I go away for a couple of hours I find myself 20 pages behind again! 

I really hope the net is closing in, this thread has been a rollercoaster from almost butterflies at the thought of it finally coming to a head to yet another disappointment and missed opportunity to nail these scumbags.

@Prehensile wrote:

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

Just want to say thanks to you all, I've been trying to get through these pages since yesterday and everytime I go away for a couple of hours I find myself 20 pages behind again! 

I really hope the net is closing in, this thread has been a rollercoaster from almost butterflies at the thought of it finally coming to a head to yet another disappointment and missed opportunity to nail these scumbags.

Read GA's book.

@Newintown wrote:Oh yes, I forgot about floodlights, silly me!  

@admin wrote:

@Prehensile wrote:

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

Just want to say thanks to you all, I've been trying to get through these pages since yesterday and everytime I go away for a couple of hours I find myself 20 pages behind again! 

I really hope the net is closing in, this thread has been a rollercoaster from almost butterflies at the thought of it finally coming to a head to yet another disappointment and missed opportunity to nail these scumbags.

Read GA's book.

@ Prehensile: You might want to post the link to the book http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/ - that might be helpful.

@ChuckieD - Amaral's dog was killed.

@russiandoll wrote:

@Roly Poly wrote:

@margaret wrote:

@Praiaaa wrote:I have been very pessimistic till now, but  - what a day! With the last photo (swimming pool) no longer the last photo; the fact that the tennis ball photo cannot have been taken on the 3rd; the timeline changed; and JT sighting discredited, drip, drip, building up the pressure, and each item directly contradicting repeated statements from  McCs  and the bewk, and the e-fit looking strangely familiar, and the crediting of the Smith sighting... am more optimistic. Imagine the scenes at Rothley Towers this evening...

Does anyone know if there was tennis on the resort being played on the evening of the 3rd?

I'm inclined to believe that there was and the tennis photo really is the last photo.

Either SY have worked it all out or someone has changed their statement IMO.

I truly hope you are correct on both counts

 there was tennis 3rd May at 6pm, but so far everything said by the group is that Gerry was present, not Kate, nor the children.
 Kate herself says she was in 5a with all 3.
 So maybe this was another day, it clearly shows clothes M was said to have worn a day [or 2, it is disputed who took tennis court photo and when]
 And described now as the last photo.

@admin wrote:

@Prehensile wrote:

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

Just want to say thanks to you all, I've been trying to get through these pages since yesterday and everytime I go away for a couple of hours I find myself 20 pages behind again! 

I really hope the net is closing in, this thread has been a rollercoaster from almost butterflies at the thought of it finally coming to a head to yet another disappointment and missed opportunity to nail these scumbags.

Read GA's book.

@ Prehensile: You might want to post the link to the book http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/ - that might be helpful.

@ChuckieD - Amaral's dog was killed.

@Cristobell wrote:

@Dr What wrote:I suppose even if one or both of the McCanns have to face the consequences, perhaps they have calculated that the £3 million in the 'bank' will not only pay for anything that their close and wider family need, but the majority of it will still be there as and when they will be in a position to enjoy it once they have served any sentence.Lose their jobs, but more than enough to start a new life somewhere.

I very much doubt there is anything left Dr. What.  The costs for all their lawyers, the libel trials and their ill advised action against Tony Bennett must have wiped out most of it.  Even if there is anything, the Portuguese trial will wipe it out.  They are no longer employing Clarence, and boy do they need him now.  He has made a couple of comments, but he doesn't seem to be running the show anymore.

@admin wrote:

@Prehensile wrote:

@ChuckieD wrote:

@Newintown wrote:If the family have got pets of any kind, I really hope they keep a close eye on them.

Any reason to say that? Has something of that ilk happened before?  

Just want to say thanks to you all, I've been trying to get through these pages since yesterday and everytime I go away for a couple of hours I find myself 20 pages behind again! 

I really hope the net is closing in, this thread has been a rollercoaster from almost butterflies at the thought of it finally coming to a head to yet another disappointment and missed opportunity to nail these scumbags.

Read GA's book.

@ Prehensile: You might want to post the link to the book http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/ - that might be helpful.

@ChuckieD - Amaral's dog was killed.

@Dr What wrote:

@Cristobell wrote:

@Dr What wrote:I suppose even if one or both of the McCanns have to face the consequences, perhaps they have calculated that the £3 million in the 'bank' will not only pay for anything that their close and wider family need, but the majority of it will still be there as and when they will be in a position to enjoy it once they have served any sentence.Lose their jobs, but more than enough to start a new life somewhere.

I very much doubt there is anything left Dr. What.  The costs for all their lawyers, the libel trials and their ill advised action against Tony Bennett must have wiped out most of it.  Even if there is anything, the Portuguese trial will wipe it out.  They are no longer employing Clarence, and boy do they need him now.  He has made a couple of comments, but he doesn't seem to be running the show anymore.

I hope you are right Cristobell.It would not surprise me if some financial planning hadn't taken place since the outset of all this 6 years ago.......probably with Scottish Widows.

@Woofer wrote:

@MissDaisy wrote:

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@I'm not buying wrote:I was listening to the 6 o'clock news on BBC Radio 4. It said that SY had brought together information from 10 separate investigations into Madeleine's disappearance. 

There was the PJ investigation, Leicester police, 3 firms of Private detectives and SY itself... Can anyone add to that list?

Does this mean that they have taken into account information supplied by 'armchair detectives' and 'internet nutters'?

Yewtree?

Elvedon?

I heard that and noticed they said 10 separate investigations.
1. PJ
2. Leicester Police
3. Dave Edgar
4. Metodo 3
5. Kevin Halligen
6. Scotland Yard (if they are counting themselves)?
7. Yewtree - Jimmy Savile and others ?
8. Elvedon - Inappropriate payments to police by News International ?
9. Operation Ore - targetting people downloading images of child abuse, maybe ?

Could another one be the separate Portuguese investigation by the Porto police ?

@mouse wrote:Jim Gamble - Team Mccan's New Spokes Person - is it official yet? Cos he'd doing out damn good job so far.

@marxman wrote:Regarding the question of 'protection', I'm not certain that they
did receive protection from one shadowy entity, but rather from
various strands, starting with Tony Blair then Gordon Brown for
pure political reasons, this in turn ignited and perpetuated a train
that all other strands of society/public opinion/media jumped upon
believing that TB and GB must be right. When the Pinky Poodle
was sent, this cemented this perception and with his contacts and
skills in media manipulation a veil of protection was established.
However, protection of any sort, is only as good and lasts as long
as the protector exists or has the inclination to continue.
If you think about it, all their backers have disembarked this train,
and no new ones are foreseen.

@Tony Bennett wrote:

@Woofer wrote:

@MissDaisy wrote:

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@I'm not buying wrote:I was listening to the 6 o'clock news on BBC Radio 4. It said that SY had brought together information from 10 separate investigations into Madeleine's disappearance. 

There was the PJ investigation, Leicester police, 3 firms of Private detectives and SY itself... Can anyone add to that list?

Does this mean that they have taken into account information supplied by 'armchair detectives' and 'internet nutters'?

Yewtree?

Elvedon?

I heard that and noticed they said 10 separate investigations.
1. PJ
2. Leicester Police
3. Dave Edgar
4. Metodo 3
5. Kevin Halligen
6. Scotland Yard (if they are counting themselves)?
7. Yewtree - Jimmy Savile and others ?
8. Elvedon - Inappropriate payments to police by News International ?
9. Operation Ore - targetting people downloading images of child abuse, maybe ?

Could another one be the separate Portuguese investigation by the Porto police ?

 Yes, I noticed that, and that's another thing I have against Redwood, bigging this up into '10 investigations'.

As if Metodo 3 and Kevin Halligen/Oakley can be dignified with the label 'investigation'.

I think the 10 would be:

1. PJ
2. Leicester Police
3. Control Risks Group
4. Red Defence
5. Metodo 3
6. Kevin Halligen/Oakley
7. Scotland Yard (if they are counting themselves)?
8. ALPHAIG/Dave Edgar/Arthur Cowley

and two others we don't know about