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Post by Smokeandmirrors 12.10.13 22:57

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candyfloss wrote:The short write up on the Daily Star reads...

Key details of the original Madeleine McCann investigation were wrong police said last night.

They will reveal a new timeline of the crucial minutes when Maddie, 3, was snatched, and they'll release several e-fits of suspects.
The Mail has the same story.

"Witnesses told Portuguese police who originally investigated the case that they saw two German-speaking men at the resort that day, but little or no importance was placed on them at the time.
Now British detectives are keen to trace the two individuals to establish if they are connected to Madeleine’s disappearance or to eliminate them from the investigation, a Scotland Yard spokesman said. "

Hardly sounds like a breakthrough! Just further spin 

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Two German men in a southern European holiday resort?? Who'd have thought it. So extraordinary and rare an occurrence that is, no wonder Mr Redwood wishes to announce it on prime time TV. Outrageous. shit happens

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Post by ShuBob 12.10.13 23:00

Will Lorraine Kelly have a go at the Express and Star newspapers I wonder spin 
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Post by Smokeandmirrors 12.10.13 23:02

ShuBob wrote:Will Lorraine Kelly have a go at the Express and Star newspapers I wonder spin 
She can try. What an airhead she is. Seems like her two brain cells have had an almighty row and one of them has gone off in a huff.

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Post by Guest 12.10.13 23:03

littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph puts it on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
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Post by ShuBob 12.10.13 23:05

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littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
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Post by MoonGoddess 12.10.13 23:07

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littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
Have they been interviewed by SY?

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Post by Tony Bennett 12.10.13 23:07

The Tapas 9, having ripped out the cover of Madeleine's Activity Sticker Book, wrote down two contradictory timelines, both mentioning Jane Tanner having seen a man carrying a child at around 9.15pm.

Exactly a week later, after they had all had time to go over the timelines time and again, they produced, on 10 May, a neatly-typed, 3-page document giving a fully considered composite account of the events of the evening.

It's here - scroll down to '10 May':

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id261.html#tap20

Unfortunately I can't reproduce it on this thread, I'm not sure if it's available somewhere else?

Surely no-one can say that, six years later, the Tapas 9 got it all wrong?

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Post by Guest 12.10.13 23:09

ShuBob wrote:
melisande wrote:
littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
Sorry but it's hard not to rush to judgement when we are already being told that neither the mccanns or their friends are suspects and this all comes at the same time as the libel trial.
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Post by Tony Bennett 12.10.13 23:10

ShuBob wrote:
melisande wrote:
littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
But as I've just posted above, all nine of them got together during the first week and prodcued an agreed version of the events of the evening of 3 May - agreed by all nine of them.

How can they now depart from that?


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Post by ChippyM 12.10.13 23:16

Isn't this just more spin? The source of the DM article is a family friend, police have still not confirmed what the 'new' information is.

"The Met refused to comment on whether the two men they were looking for were German-speakers, but a family friend said that detectives were on the ‘brink of a breakthrough’.



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Post by Tony Bennett 12.10.13 23:21

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Maddie detectives hunting two 'German-speaking men': E-fit of suspects revealed this week as McCanns pray Crimewatch reconstruction results in a breakthrough

Scotland Yard were aware of the two men when Maddie went missing in 2007

They were dismissed but the investigation team now want to find them

E-fits of the suspects will be broadcast on Crimewatch on Monday at 9pm

Similar appeals will be made on Dutch and German television next week

Kate and Gerry McCann will fly to Munich to make live appeal on Wednesday


by Abul Taher and Nick Craven PUBLISHED:22:11, 12 October 2013| UPDATED:23:09, 12 October 2013

British detectives hunting for missing Madeleine McCann are looking for two German-speaking men whose computer-generated images will be broadcast on special TV appeals this week.

Scotland Yard says the un-identified men were seen in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz at the time when Madeleine, then aged three, went missing on May 3, 2007.

Witnesses told Portuguese police who originally investigated the case that they saw two German-speaking men at the resort that day, but little or no importance was placed on them at the time.

Now British detectives are keen to trace the two individuals to establish if they are connected to Madeleine’s disappearance or to eliminate them from the investigation, a Scotland Yard spokesman said.

[PIC: Moving: The McCanns during their Crimewatch interview to be broadcast tomorrow. They say they are hopeful]

[PIC: Fateful: The reconstruction will show Maddie's last game of tennis with her father before she went missing in 2007]

[PIC: It will also show the moment she was taken from her holiday bed in Praia da Luz in Portugal six years ago]

The E-Fit (Electronic Facial Identification Technique) images of individuals based on eyewitness reports will be broadcast on Crimewatch on BBC1 at 9pm.

Similar appeals will be made on Dutch programme Opsporing Verzocht (Investigation Required) on Tuesday night, and on the German version of Crimewatch, Aktenzeichen XY Ungelost (Case Files XY Unsolved) on Wednesday night, as Madeleine’s parents make an international appeal for information.

Kate and Gerry McCann, both 45, will fly to Munich on Wednesday to make a live appeal from the studios of Aktenzeichen, which is watched by five million viewers.

A spokesman for the German programme said: ‘The reviewing and analysis of all available information has led to new insights and leads that, for the first time, point to Germany.

Aktenzeichen shows the photofits of two men, who apparently spoke German, and to whom little or no importance was previously attached.’

The McCanns previously visited Germany in 2007 to make an appeal because a high number of German tourists were in the Algarve region when Madeleine went missing.

[PIC: Missing: Maddie with her younger siblings, twins Sean and Amelie, who are now eight]

The latest mugshots will also be shown on Dutch TV as the two ‘German speakers’ may have been talking Dutch, as the two languages are often confused, said a police source in the Netherlands.

Tomorrow’s Crimewatch programme will feature a dramatic reconstruction of the moment Madeleine went missing, giving the most detailed sequence of events ever made public that led to her disappearance from the holiday apartment where she was sleeping.

The reconstruction – which includes Mr McCann’s 6pm tennis lesson when Madeleine acted as ballgirl – will be accompanied by a moving interview by presenter Kirsty Young with Kate and Gerry McCann.

They talk about how much they miss Madeleine, who would be ten today. They will make a live appeal for members of the public to come forward with information.

In a statement, the McCanns said: ‘We are greatly encouraged by new information coming to light, with the pieces of the jigsaw now fitting together.

[PIC: Kate and Gerry McCann will fly to Munich on Wednesday to make a live appeal on TV to five million viewers]

[PIC: The tennis match reconstruction is based on this image, which Maddie's parents distributed in a bid to find her]

[PIC: ‘We are really hopeful that the appeal on Crimewatch will bring further evidence which will take us a step closer to finding Madeleine.’]

The Met refused to comment on whether the two men they were looking for were German-speakers, but a family friend said that detectives were on the ‘brink of a breakthrough’.

The Met officer leading the investigation, Detective Inspector Andy Redwood, will make a live appeal for information on the programme.

[PIC: This image was released of what Maddie might look like now. The McCanns said they feel a step closer]

Since Scotland Yard began reviewing the case in 2011, detectives have interviewed 442 people in 30 different countries and have drawn up a list of 41 potential suspects.

Officers are pursuing 4,920 lines of inquiry, of which 2,123 had been ‘completed’.’

Detectives now believe that their ‘timeline’ holds the key to discovering what happened to Madeleine. Det Insp Redwood said: ‘Our work has significantly changed the accepted version of events and it has allowed us to highlight very specific appeal points.

‘I hope that when the public see our investigative strands drawn together, it will bring in new information that moves our investigation forward.’


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Post by suzyjohnson 12.10.13 23:23

The timeline is wrong?

In that case, once the PJ files had been translated, wouldn't you think MM's parents would have drawn immediate attention to any facts that were wrong? 

GM stated he saw MM asleep at just after 9.05pm

JT, presumably, was mistaken when she saw someone carrying MM at 9.15pm. that explains why she didn't notice the open window (but not why neither GM nor JW noticed her in the street)

Perhaps MM was also there when MO went in to the apartment at 9.30pm (perhaps, after all, the window wasn't open then either)

So. sometime around 9.45pm, MM was taken from the apartment? (only JT and ROB failing to notice an open window now, unless of course they used their patio door in which case they never walked past the window) Which ties in with the Smith sighting at 9.50- 9.55pm

Is this going to be the new, amended version?

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Tony Bennett wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
melisande wrote:
littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
 But as I've just posted above, all nine of them got together during the first week and prodcued an agreed version of the events of the evening of  3 May - agreed by all nine of them.

How can they now depart from that?

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Post by suzyjohnson 12.10.13 23:39

Regarding MM and the 6pm tennis match on 3/5/07

GM 10/5/07 witness statement - 'After her arrival (for tea), MADELEINE dined, having finished at 17H30. After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent. They bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, which was attended by: DAN, the tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played before. During the afternoon of that day, the rest of the group, including the children, were at the beach, having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DAVID PAYNE next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, which he refused, as he had already been plying for about an hour [ ] At around 19H00, he made his way to the apartment, finding KATE and the children playing on the sofa.

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Post by sofa 12.10.13 23:44

It looks like SY is spending more on finding alibis for the MC than the whereabouts of the little one, all these stories, Crimewatch, New Evidence, etc. So many months without a word, suddenly it is coming from everywhere, every day, what a coincidence.
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Post by Tony Bennett 12.10.13 23:45

suzyjohnson wrote:Regarding MM and the 6pm tennis match on 3/5/07

GM 10/5/07 witness statement - 'After her arrival (for tea), MADELEINE dined, having finished at 17H30. After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent. They bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, which was attended by: DAN, the tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played before. During the afternoon of that day, the rest of the group, including the children, were at the beach, having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DAVID PAYNE next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, which he refused, as he had already been plying for about an hour [ ] At around 19H00, he made his way to the apartment, finding KATE and the children playing on the sofa.
suzyjohnson, the reference to Madeleine's 'last tennis match' is a reference to a claim that she was in the creche group for tennis on the Tuesday (1 May) - the 'tennis photo' of Madeleine (about which there has been much discussion) was said to have been taken that day.

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Post by suzyjohnson 12.10.13 23:50

Tony, somewhere I'm sure I just read that Madeleine was present at GM's 6pm tennis match on 3rd May. I'll look .....

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Post by Tony Bennett 12.10.13 23:52

Sunday Times

Yard to issue E-Fits in Madeleine hunt

Police are to launch a TV appeal for suspects in the case of the missing girl, report Dipesh Gadher and David Leppard

3 October 2013


[PIC: Madeleine McCann vanished on a family holiday in the Algarve in 2007]

NEW pictures of a number of men who may be connected to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann will be released tomorrow by Scotland Yard.

Detectives urgently want to speak to the men — seen in and around the Algarve holiday resort from which Madeleine vanished in 2007 — after identifying “significant changes” to the timeline of events that has been accepted to date.

E-Fits of the possible suspects will be shown on BBC1’s Crimewatch and in other European countries as part of the “most complex and detailed” public appeal yet in the case.

Tomorrow’s programme will feature a 25-minute reconstruction, in which a girl bearing a close resemblance to Madeleine will act out the movements of the three-year-old before she disappeared from the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz...

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Post by MoonGoddess 12.10.13 23:53

Tony Bennett wrote:
suzyjohnson wrote:Regarding MM and the 6pm tennis match on 3/5/07

GM 10/5/07 witness statement - 'After her arrival (for tea), MADELEINE dined, having finished at 17H30. After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent. They bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, which was attended by: DAN, the tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played before. During the afternoon of that day, the rest of the group, including the children, were at the beach, having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DAVID PAYNE next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, which he refused, as he had already been plying for about an hour [ ] At around 19H00, he made his way to the apartment, finding KATE and the children playing on the sofa.
suzyjohnson, the reference to Madeleine's 'last tennis match' is a reference to a claim that she was in the creche group for tennis on the Tuesday (1 May) - the 'tennis photo' of Madeleine (about which there has been much discussion) was said to have been taken that day.
It could be mis-reporting but the Mail:- The reconstruction - which includes Mr McCann's 6pm tennis lesson when Madeleine acted as ballgirl

and whilst the Mirror isn't up yet, on google news:- The innocent little girl dressed all in pink darts in front of the tennis net, collecting the balls for her loving parents. It is a tender moment from a perfect family holiday but, hours later, the three-year-old is snatched from her bed. The tennis game between Kate...

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Post by Tony Bennett 12.10.13 23:55

suzyjohnson wrote:Tony, somewhere I'm sure I just read that Madeleine was present at GM's 6pm tennis match on 3rd May. I'll look .....
Not that I remember.

On the contrary, one of the versions of why Dr Gerald McCann (as he claims) asked David Payne (at around 6.30pm) to go and visit Kate in their apartment (G5A) was 'to see if she wanted to bring the children down to watch him play tennis'

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suzyjohnson wrote:Regarding MM and the 6pm tennis match on 3/5/07

GM 10/5/07 witness statement - 'After her arrival (for tea), MADELEINE dined, having finished at 17H30. After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent. They bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, which was attended by: DAN, the tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played before. During the afternoon of that day, the rest of the group, including the children, were at the beach, having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DAVID PAYNE next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, which he refused, as he had already been plying for about an hour [ ] At around 19H00, he made his way to the apartment, finding KATE and the children playing on the sofa.
suzyjohnson, the reference to Madeleine's 'last tennis match' is a reference to a claim that she was in the creche group for tennis on the Tuesday (1 May) - the 'tennis photo' of Madeleine (about which there has been much discussion) was said to have been taken that day.
It could be mis-reporting but the Mail:- The reconstruction - which includes Mr McCann's 6pm tennis lesson when Madeleine acted as ballgirl




and whilst the Mirror isn't up yet, on google news:- The innocent little girl dressed all in pink darts in front of the tennis net, collecting the balls for her loving parents. It is a tender moment from a perfect family holiday but, hours later, the three-year-old is snatched from her bed. The tennis game between Kate...

The Mirror was up, but has since removed it

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Even if Redwood, after he and his 37 (now 43) officers have spent 2.5 years on the case, has only marginally adjusted the timeline, it starts to break apart the carefully-constructed 'composite timeline' that the Tapas 9 spent a whole week thinking about and then handed to the Portuguese Police on 10 May.

The more Redwood's new version of the timeline departs from the 'accepted' original version, the more suspicion will inevitably fall on whether the 'errors' by the Tapas 9 were the result of poor memory recall - or perhaps something else

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suzyjohnson wrote:Tony, somewhere I'm sure I just read that Madeleine was present at GM's 6pm tennis match on 3rd May. I'll look .....
 Not that I remember.

On the contrary, one of the versions of why Dr Gerald McCann (as he claims) asked David Payne (at around 6.30pm) to go and visit Kate in their apartment (G5A) was 'to see if she wanted to bring the children down to watch him play tennis'
As Moongoddess said, 'It could be mis-reporting but the Mail:- The reconstruction - which includes Mr McCann's 6pm tennis lesson when Madeleine acted as ballgirl'


I just read this and so then I checked GM's statement to see whether it was possible MM was there at this time (like you, I thought not, as you point out, GM sent DP to see KM and the children at 6.30pm, so prob just mis-reporting by the Mail. But let's see what's in this reconstruction on Mon .......)

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Post by ShuBob 13.10.13 0:05

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littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
Have they been interviewed by SY?
I don't know for sure but am guessing so. No point in trying to do a reconstruction otherwise IMO.
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Tony Bennett wrote:
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littlepixie wrote:Have they re-written the PJ Files?
That was my first thought.  Shame on them all if they have rewritten 'her last hours' as the Sunday Telegraph putsit on their front page.  Screams whitewash.
Let's not rush to judgment. It's possible one or more of the tapas witnesses have changed their statements.
 But as I've just posted above, all nine of them got together during the first week and prodcued an agreed version of the events of the evening of  3 May - agreed by all nine of them.

How can they now depart from that?

By admitting they LIED when they created the timeline? It's a possibility and a not-so far-fetched one IMO.
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