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@tasprin wrote:I used to read that forum and remember BR's avatar which was particularly offensive. However, one other thing I do recall (I don't know if anyone else does) is that at one time there was a spate of posts from pro-McCanns making horrendous allegations about members of BR's family (the worst). I have no idea why she switched and I'm probably wrong about this but it seems to me they were out to get her one way or another. IMO the majority of the pros are connected to members of the Tapas 9 (not just the McCanns) and I doubt these accusations would have been made if BR had been a plant or a pro in disguise. Her change of heart may have been as a result of legal pressure and instead of suing her, and taking her house, they chose to make a deal with her which involved a huge public apology in writing (and produce supportive missives as and when required) in the hope that others would follow her example. IMO the Express Group was subject to a similar agreement.

@Upsy Daisy wrote:okay MRNOODLES....have I been asleep or something...where did you get that Avatar from?? Did you create it yourself or is the photo-fit in the files????????

@susible wrote:She originally used BJR, then decided she wasn't going to be anonymous anymore (everyone knew who she was anyway) so she changed her username to Bren (don't think she added the Ryan, but like I say everyone knew everything about her anyway, so it was a moot point)

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@tasprin wrote:I used to read that forum and remember BR's avatar which was particularly offensive. However, one other thing I do recall (I don't know if anyone else does) is that at one time there was a spate of posts from pro-McCanns making horrendous allegations about members of BR's family (the worst). I have no idea why she switched and I'm probably wrong about this but it seems to me they were out to get her one way or another. IMO the majority of the pros are connected to members of the Tapas 9 (not just the McCanns) and I doubt these accusations would have been made if BR had been a plant or a pro in disguise. Her change of heart may have been as a result of legal pressure and instead of suing her, and taking her house, they chose to make a deal with her which involved a huge public apology in writing (and produce supportive missives as and when required) in the hope that others would follow her example. IMO the Express Group was subject to a similar agreement.

I agree with galena... that does sound plausible.... but I would also question whether 3A's could have been set up to gauge public opinion[MMU].... absolutely nothing would surprise me now.... nothing

I guess when 3A's went down, so did everything written on it? I remember posting something written by Russell O'Brien, it was a pdf file regarding a medical seminar or suchlike that he'd  presented on 'Opiates', it contained clear instructions on how to resuscitate a child that had overdosed (ie making them vomit to eliminate the medicine).... I was stunned at how quickly that was whoosh clunked ... I wish I had the computer skills I have now, I would have saved it... I always believed his daughter being sick was induced....

@MRNOODLES wrote:

@Upsy Daisy wrote:okay MRNOODLES....have I been asleep or something...where did you get that Avatar from?? Did you create it yourself or is the photo-fit in the files????????

I can't take credit. I found it when I did an e-fit search.  So it's sort of borrowed 

@admin wrote:

@MRNOODLES wrote:

@Upsy Daisy wrote:okay MRNOODLES....have I been asleep or something...where did you get that Avatar from?? Did you create it yourself or is the photo-fit in the files????????

I can't take credit. I found it when I did an e-fit search.  So it's sort of borrowed 

And is it big enough for you?

(said the actress to the bishop)

@galena wrote:

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@tasprin wrote:I used to read that forum and remember BR's avatar which was particularly offensive. However, one other thing I do recall (I don't know if anyone else does) is that at one time there was a spate of posts from pro-McCanns making horrendous allegations about members of BR's family (the worst). I have no idea why she switched and I'm probably wrong about this but it seems to me they were out to get her one way or another. IMO the majority of the pros are connected to members of the Tapas 9 (not just the McCanns) and I doubt these accusations would have been made if BR had been a plant or a pro in disguise. Her change of heart may have been as a result of legal pressure and instead of suing her, and taking her house, they chose to make a deal with her which involved a huge public apology in writing (and produce supportive missives as and when required) in the hope that others would follow her example. IMO the Express Group was subject to a similar agreement.

I agree with galena... that does sound plausible.... but I would also question whether 3A's could have been set up to gauge public opinion[MMU].... absolutely nothing would surprise me now.... nothing

I guess when 3A's went down, so did everything written on it? I remember posting something written by Russell O'Brien, it was a pdf file regarding a medical seminar or suchlike that he'd  presented on 'Opiates', it contained clear instructions on how to resuscitate a child that had overdosed (ie making them vomit to eliminate the medicine).... I was stunned at how quickly that was whoosh clunked ... I wish I had the computer skills I have now, I would have saved it... I always believed his daughter being sick was induced....

I really wish I had archived every single interesting thread on digispy, the mirror forums and the 3As - there was a lot of interesting stuff which I guess is now gone forever.  Like you I am slightly suspicious of the 3As - I agreed with much which was posted on it but there were also some wilder theories and threads  abusing the McCanns which did much to reinforce the image of evil internet trolls, which did much to discredit the forum as a whole.

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@galena wrote:

@MoonGoddess wrote:

@tasprin wrote:I used to read that forum and remember BR's avatar which was particularly offensive. However, one other thing I do recall (I don't know if anyone else does) is that at one time there was a spate of posts from pro-McCanns making horrendous allegations about members of BR's family (the worst). I have no idea why she switched and I'm probably wrong about this but it seems to me they were out to get her one way or another. IMO the majority of the pros are connected to members of the Tapas 9 (not just the McCanns) and I doubt these accusations would have been made if BR had been a plant or a pro in disguise. Her change of heart may have been as a result of legal pressure and instead of suing her, and taking her house, they chose to make a deal with her which involved a huge public apology in writing (and produce supportive missives as and when required) in the hope that others would follow her example. IMO the Express Group was subject to a similar agreement.

I agree with galena... that does sound plausible.... but I would also question whether 3A's could have been set up to gauge public opinion[MMU].... absolutely nothing would surprise me now.... nothing

I guess when 3A's went down, so did everything written on it? I remember posting something written by Russell O'Brien, it was a pdf file regarding a medical seminar or suchlike that he'd  presented on 'Opiates', it contained clear instructions on how to resuscitate a child that had overdosed (ie making them vomit to eliminate the medicine).... I was stunned at how quickly that was whoosh clunked ... I wish I had the computer skills I have now, I would have saved it... I always believed his daughter being sick was induced....

I really wish I had archived every single interesting thread on digispy, the mirror forums and the 3As - there was a lot of interesting stuff which I guess is now gone forever.  Like you I am slightly suspicious of the 3As - I agreed with much which was posted on it but there were also some wilder theories and threads  abusing the McCanns which did much to reinforce the image of evil internet trolls, which did much to discredit the forum as a whole.

I don't know how extensive this is but it appears some bits were saved from 3A's.... bought back some memories :)

http://msngroup.aimoo.com/madeleinemccann/threearguidos.msnw.htm

and some Mirror Forum threads...

http://forum2.aimoo.com/MadeleineMcCann/Mirror-Forum-Threads-1-68627

a bit hard to poke around on the sites but might appeal to some, so though I'd put it out there :)

@MRNOODLES wrote:Is it also just a coincidence that the 3As were mentioned in the libel trial, where this threat was allegedly made that nobody can recall reading?

@loopzdaloop wrote:

@MRNOODLES wrote:Is it also just a coincidence that the 3As were mentioned in the libel trial, where this threat was allegedly made that nobody can recall reading?

Unless... She was a plant all along, a character to make troll threats with that they could use to garner public opinion and remain in the media. Prof cass sunstein who helped to champion the 'cognitive infiltration' of forums by government and PR companies talked about countering political views by placing extremists amongst them to put off the moderates and to discredit the groups as your average joe public would not want to associate with people making threats to kidnap the twins etc etc.

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I doubt that there are any long term pros on here.

They simply can't resist spitting their venom and they are quickly unplugged!

@Beanie wrote:

@loopzdaloop wrote:

@MRNOODLES wrote:Is it also just a coincidence that the 3As were mentioned in the libel trial, where this threat was allegedly made that nobody can recall reading?

Unless... She was a plant all along, a character to make troll threats with that they could use to garner public opinion and remain in the media. Prof cass sunstein who helped to champion the 'cognitive infiltration' of forums by government and PR companies talked about countering political views by placing extremists amongst them to put off the moderates and to discredit the groups as your average joe public would not want to associate with people making threats to kidnap the twins etc etc.

Believe me I am sure there are many plants. 

I used to be a member on Amazon and several posters said they were on here and MM site playing the anti McCann when they were in fact pros and found it a hoot that they could not be outed. 

Who they are I have no idea.

@loopzdaloop wrote:

@MRNOODLES wrote:Is it also just a coincidence that the 3As were mentioned in the libel trial, where this threat was allegedly made that nobody can recall reading?

Unless... She was a plant all along, a character to make troll threats with that they could use to garner public opinion and remain in the media. Prof cass sunstein who helped to champion the 'cognitive infiltration' of forums by government and PR companies talked about countering political views by placing extremists amongst them to put off the moderates and to discredit the groups as your average joe public would not want to associate with people making threats to kidnap the twins etc etc.

@Beanie wrote:

@loopzdaloop wrote:

@MRNOODLES wrote:Is it also just a coincidence that the 3As were mentioned in the libel trial, where this threat was allegedly made that nobody can recall reading?

Unless... She was a plant all along, a character to make troll threats with that they could use to garner public opinion and remain in the media. Prof cass sunstein who helped to champion the 'cognitive infiltration' of forums by government and PR companies talked about countering political views by placing extremists amongst them to put off the moderates and to discredit the groups as your average joe public would not want to associate with people making threats to kidnap the twins etc etc.

Believe me I am sure there are many plants. 

I used to be a member on Amazon and several posters said they were on here and MM site playing the anti McCann when they were in fact pros and found it a hoot that they could not be outed. 

Who they are I have no idea.

@admin wrote:

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I doubt that there are any long term pros on here.

They simply can't resist spitting their venom and they are quickly unplugged!

Don't be so sure about that

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Bless her, Brenda is back. She has a group on Facebook called Madeleine McCann Case - The Real Facts.