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Post by Tony Bennett on 09.10.13 12:39

Our debating friends on the 'MIssing Madeleine' forum have already dubbed this new 'possible suspect' who was seen 'somewhere near the apartment' as:

'JIGSAW MAN',

because of this from Martin Brunt on SKY News:

"Scotland Yard tell me that until they identify him and question him, they really don't know where he fits into this jigsaw..."

Somehow I think that's a name that will stick.

Can someone please post the "E-fit' of jigsaw man on this thread as well as anywhere else.

So we can help track down 'jigsaw man'

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.10.13 12:48

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"JIGSAW" PUPPET.
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"JIGSAW' SUSPECT WEARING EVENING WEAR FOR FORMAL TAPAS DINNER.
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Post by saloongirl on 09.10.13 12:53

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Here is the evidence that they have to go on
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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.10.13 13:03

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"JIGSAW" man entertains at the beach in PDL.

AND we know his name is CHARLIE GRANT!
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Post by Guest on 09.10.13 13:19

@saloongirl wrote:'Jigsaw man' - another missing piece of the jigsaw Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRxbUZ11WIZJxq0YBc_Crjmu9F0AIhOo_7748RyphJlhB8gl6M6

Here is the evidence that they have to go on
Blimey, that's going to be like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack!
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Post by Guest on 09.10.13 13:23

Love the comment from Sheldon69 smilie . Surprised that one got through.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 09.10.13 13:41

melisande wrote:
Love the comment from Sheldon69 smilie . Surprised that one got through.


Angie on the Daily Mail comments section wrote:

Angie, Sydney, 1 hour ago

"Am so proud of the hard work and dedication of the UK police. Their progress is fantastic and we can barely breathe..."

I can scarcely breathe too.

But for an entirely different reason.

The latest actions of Scotland Yard and the BBC have taken my breath away

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by PeterMac on 09.10.13 13:46

Sneak preview of the e-fit.
All please start looking - NOW
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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.10.13 13:49

melisande wrote:
Love the comment from Sheldon69 smilie . Surprised that one got through.
sheldon69, Glasgow - Great Britain, 1 hour ago

"Not really breaking news, we've seen pictures of the parents already..."
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Post by russiandoll on 09.10.13 14:23

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Post by ultimaThule on 09.10.13 15:58

I'm bemused by the continual mention of this jigsaw with missing pieces. 

If this is one and the same jigsaw that was last seen complete in apartment 5A on or around 3 May 2007, weren't they found behind the sofa yonks ago? [yawn]
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Post by Ayniia on 09.10.13 17:00

@Tony Bennett wrote:
melisande wrote:
Love the comment from Sheldon69 smilie . Surprised that one got through.
 

Angie on the Daily Mail comments section wrote:

Angie, Sydney, 1 hour ago

"Am so proud of the hard work and dedication of the UK police. Their progress is fantastic and we can barely breathe..."

I can scarcely breathe too.

But for an entirely different reason.

The latest actions of Scotland Yard and the BBC have taken my breath away
There we go again , " Welcome to the twilight zone! "

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Post by PeterMac on 09.10.13 17:14

Is it me or has this bit been added to the story ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2450854/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-picture-released-police.html
Police have identified a new suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and are set to release an 'e-fit' photograph of him, it was claimed today. . .
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However, police are currently unsure how the man might be connected to the case
So it is NOT a suspect.
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Post by tegan1973 on 09.10.13 18:09

Same old rubbish isn't it? Nothing new. Media hyping the same old stories. It's either sightings in some far off place or e-fits that no one ever recognises
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Post by MRNOODLES on 09.10.13 18:22

Jigsaw man could be a woman

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Post by gbwales on 09.10.13 18:27

@PeterMac wrote:Is it me or has this bit been added to the story ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2450854/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-picture-released-police.html
Police have identified a new suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and are set to release an 'e-fit' photograph of him, it was claimed today. . .
and then further down
However, police are currently unsure how the man might be connected to the case
So it is NOT a suspect.
Absolutely right. It's so utterly absurd. I don't understand how people let this kind of rubbish wash over them without thinking or questioning for a second.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 09.10.13 18:27

@PeterMac wrote:Is it me or has this bit been added to the story ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2450854/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-picture-released-police.html
Police have identified a new suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and are set to release an 'e-fit' photograph of him, it was claimed today. . .
and then further down
However, police are currently unsure how the man might be connected to the case
So it is NOT a suspect.
PeterMac - suppose someone really did see a suspicious man near a crime scene 6 years 5 months ago.

Suppose further that this witness had reported this to the police fairly soon after the crime - but the police had not followed it up properly at the time (unlikely, I know).

You are the Senior Investigating Officer doing an extensive cold case review. You are reviewing something that happened in another country 2,000 miles away, which was extensively investigated at the time by the police force of that country.

Can you tell us how much value there would be in doing a Crimewatch special in the U.K. on this 6-year-old sighting of a bloke seen near the crime scene?

And, realistically, what prospect is there that someone could come forward 6 years later with some new, usable information?


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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Tony Bennett on 09.10.13 18:30

@gbwales wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:However, police are currently unsure how the man might be connected to the case
So it is NOT a suspect.
So this bloke can hardly be 'substantive', 'significant' or 'shattering', then.

Maybe there is something or someone else.

Maybe the powers-that-be in the Met and the BBC are just stoking things up to achieve maximum indoctrination coverage.

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Liz Eagles on 09.10.13 18:31

From joana morais blog

This is the press conference re the e-fit of the Victoria Beckham lookalike.

Pieces of the jigsaw mentioned again. Clarrie and Dave Edgar in full flow. It's just over 30 minutes long.

http://blip.tv/joana-morais-tv/mccanns-press-conference-the-farce-2464948

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Post by Tony Bennett on 09.10.13 18:35

aquila wrote:From joana morais blog

This is the press conference re the e-fit of the Victoria Beckham lookalike.

Pieces of the jigsaw mentioned again. Clarrie and Dave Edgar in full flow. It's just over 30 minutes long.

http://blip.tv/joana-morais-tv/mccanns-press-conference-the-farce-2464948
And what a strange jigsaw this is.

The Pope was part of this jigsaw.

So was Kevin Halligen.

And Antonio Giminez Raso.

And a prominent northern Freemason.

No doubt at the very centre of this jigsaw should be Madeleine herself.

Is she not the 'missing piece' in this entire jigsaw?


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Post by plebgate on 09.10.13 18:38

Thanks Aquila.

For operational reasons I am unable to post what I think of these two, but as soon as I am given the all clear I will, although it might take six years and counting: big grin 

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Post by Daisy on 09.10.13 19:10

My bet's on this being the next e-fit, I don't believe it's ever been shown before (I may be wrong) so I guess they can get away with calling it 'new' or 'fresh' information. Carol Tranmer's (second) statement is very interesting reading.

MISSING FROM FILES Carole Tranmer

Original interview and identikit not included in DVD:

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Post by ultimaThule on 09.10.13 19:23

@plebgate wrote:Thanks Aquila.

For operational reasons I am unable to post what I think of these two, but as soon as I am given the all clear I will, although it might take six years and counting: big grin 

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It is exceedingly tempting to take the words out of the saintly one's foul mouth and think of them as a pair of 'f^*cking t!++ers' but, in the interests of not being reduced to level of the gutter, I shall continue to use adjectives such as odious, despicable, shameless, repulsive, repugnant, inhuman, unfeeling, manipulative, narcissistic, psychopathic, and others which describe those whose behaviour is beyond the pale.

Hope this helps, plebgate smilie
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Post by Guest on 09.10.13 20:05

The renowned forensic psychologist Paul Britton wrote a book called The Jigsaw Man.

http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/paul+britton/the+jigsaw+man/5372870/

As far as I know, he hasn't commented publicly on the McCann case; it would be interesting to hear what he thinks.
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