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And be ?????? ? Sorry.aiyoyo wrote:Would the appeal be 'live"?
If so, should be interesting to watch the couple's body language, or how united they are going to pretend to be, or whether Kate will grope body anatomy in front of Scotland Yard?
If Redwood is sharp,he should sit between them.......
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What happened to this morning's posts ? ! ..
This morning's posts are missing; the message is "they do not exist". We were
discussing Joana Morais' blog / email post this morning about the time-frame of
6.45 -7.00 pm on the evening of 3 May. We were also asking whether 'witnesses'
would include the Smith family, and Katharine Gaspar, amongst othere related
issues.
Could someone please say why these have been removed? Most interesting.
discussing Joana Morais' blog / email post this morning about the time-frame of
6.45 -7.00 pm on the evening of 3 May. We were also asking whether 'witnesses'
would include the Smith family, and Katharine Gaspar, amongst othere related
issues.
Could someone please say why these have been removed? Most interesting.
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Nina, you're very naughty, shame on you..Nina wrote:And be ?????? ? Sorry.aiyoyo wrote:Would the appeal be 'live"?
If so, should be interesting to watch the couple's body language, or how united they are going to pretend to be, or whether Kate will grope body anatomy in front of Scotland Yard?
If Redwood is sharp,he should sit between them.......
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It just conjured up a very 'whoops' moment, haha.Newintown wrote:Nina, you're very naughty, shame on you..Nina wrote:And be ?????? ? Sorry.aiyoyo wrote:Would the appeal be 'live"?
If so, should be interesting to watch the couple's body language, or how united they are going to pretend to be, or whether Kate will grope body anatomy in front of Scotland Yard?
If Redwood is sharp,he should sit between them.......
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Will do Tigger, thank you.tigger wrote:I read your blog from time to time and see you've put in a link to AnnaEsse's translation of Truth of the Lie.Cristobell wrote:I began a post on here and it turned into a blog: http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/ - lol, 'We Can All Go Home Now'. No probs if someone wants to c/p it here. :)
There a forum on it here as well and perhaps you could put in a link to CmoMM?
My comment giving this link seems to have been lost on your blog otherwise I would not put this here.
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What posts Searcher, I have removed nothing. 2 threads were merged into Tony's thread this morning as there were 3 on the same subject. That is the only thing I can think of.Searcher wrote:This morning's posts are missing; the message is "they do not exist". We were
discussing Joana Morais' blog / email post this morning about the time-frame of
6.45 -7.00 pm on the evening of 3 May. We were also asking whether 'witnesses'
would include the Smith family, and Katharine Gaspar, amongst othere related
issues.
Could someone please say why these have been removed? Most interesting.
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You cheeky sods!Nina wrote:It just conjured up a very 'whoops' moment, haha.Newintown wrote:Nina, you're very naughty, shame on you..Nina wrote:And be ?????? ? Sorry.aiyoyo wrote:Would the appeal be 'live"?
If so, should be interesting to watch the couple's body language, or how united they are going to pretend to be, or whether Kate will grope body anatomy in front of Scotland Yard?
If Redwood is sharp,he should sit between them.......
Should Redwood come in 'Sarong' then instead of his standard gear?
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Page 13 of this thread Searcher.candyfloss wrote:What posts Searcher, I have removed nothing. 2 threads were merged into Tony's thread this morning as there were 3 on the same subject. That is the only thing I can think of.Searcher wrote:This morning's posts are missing; the message is "they do not exist". We were
discussing Joana Morais' blog / email post this morning about the time-frame of
6.45 -7.00 pm on the evening of 3 May. We were also asking whether 'witnesses'
would include the Smith family, and Katharine Gaspar, amongst othere related
issues.
Could someone please say why these have been removed? Most interesting.
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Missing posts ..
Well, only that I came to the site (having been out all day) and the link in my
email to the posts from this morning (notifying more posts added) - came up with
the notice on the site "this post does not exist". Very odd! That's all I know but
it may be that if I go back a page later it will be there in the merged posts as you
have suggested. Thankyou! I just wondered if it had been removed for a reason
(which I could possibly understand if it was .. as could be taken as controversial).
All very best and thank you for reply.
email to the posts from this morning (notifying more posts added) - came up with
the notice on the site "this post does not exist". Very odd! That's all I know but
it may be that if I go back a page later it will be there in the merged posts as you
have suggested. Thankyou! I just wondered if it had been removed for a reason
(which I could possibly understand if it was .. as could be taken as controversial).
All very best and thank you for reply.
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Thankyou! Found; most grateful as I particularly want to follow-up the links given.
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I would really like to answer that but I don't think I should.aiyoyo wrote:You cheeky sods!Nina wrote:It just conjured up a very 'whoops' moment, haha.Newintown wrote:Nina, you're very naughty, shame on you..Nina wrote:And be ?????? ? Sorry.aiyoyo wrote:Would the appeal be 'live"?
If so, should be interesting to watch the couple's body language, or how united they are going to pretend to be, or whether Kate will grope body anatomy in front of Scotland Yard?
If Redwood is sharp,he should sit between them.......
Should Redwood come in 'Sarong' then instead of his standard gear?
She started it Miss........
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For crying out loud: then HE runs the risk of being manhandled by either one of themaiyoyo wrote:Would the appeal be 'live"?
If so, should be interesting to watch the couple's body language, or how united they are going to pretend to be, or whether Kate will grope body anatomy in front of Scotland Yard?
If Redwood is sharp,he should sit between them.......
Just my opinion, of course
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It seems though that for some people, what three successive governments not could achive, SY convinced them there finally is a real investigation. Real in spite of the fact the conning couple will not be investigated.tigger wrote:This has been on stand-by since they failed to buy GA off. Was the press storm in April/May for the same reason? It wasn't known when the case would be heard.aiyoyo wrote:Whose spin though? The Mccanns didn't produce this crimewatch nor timed its release as such.Cheshire Cat wrote:Timed to happen before (if) Gerry gives evidence.aquila wrote:It's all go in October, the libel trial in Portugal, a crimewatch tv programme dedicated to the McCanns, Redwood of the Yard announcing advances in the case (don't titter at the back) and the Rebekkah Brooks trial to begin.
It is all about spin and generating media pressure and drowning out the truth.
It's the METs project!
The question has to be asked: what was going on in PdL which made the McCanns so sure they'd be 'saved?'
All those holiday snaps requested from genuine holiday makers, all that effort to align witness statements to the official story line, three successive governments toeing the line weren't for the benefit of the McCanns but for the main reason the McCanns were protected.
No doubt those in the know wished for slightly more intelligent 'victims'.
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Interesting video here from ITV, showing one of the last videos of Madeleine, and Emma Murphy reporting. She says...
'They have substantive fresh evidence that has allowed them to consider different theories about what happened' (maybe not exact)
I thought the theory they were pursuing was she was abducted?? Abduction is abduction and means someone has removed her doesn't it? So different theories about what happened??
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-10-04/madeleine-new-technology-is-helping-search/
'They have substantive fresh evidence that has allowed them to consider different theories about what happened' (maybe not exact)
I thought the theory they were pursuing was she was abducted?? Abduction is abduction and means someone has removed her doesn't it? So different theories about what happened??
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-10-04/madeleine-new-technology-is-helping-search/
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Hi All,
I'm another that reads every day but doesn't post much.
I would like to give my opinion on the recent developments.
The parents have looked really ill as of May this year. I don't think that things have been happening in their favour.
IMO They have been forced into the crimewatch style programme, lets face it they really couldn't refuse as it would not go down well with the investigation.
I personally can't wait to see how the programme is presented. They cant change the statements (that we have all read)
The backlash would cause a meltdown of the phones!
I remain optimistic that justice is about to happen for the little angel Madeleine Beth McCann.
I'm another that reads every day but doesn't post much.
I would like to give my opinion on the recent developments.
The parents have looked really ill as of May this year. I don't think that things have been happening in their favour.
IMO They have been forced into the crimewatch style programme, lets face it they really couldn't refuse as it would not go down well with the investigation.
I personally can't wait to see how the programme is presented. They cant change the statements (that we have all read)
The backlash would cause a meltdown of the phones!
I remain optimistic that justice is about to happen for the little angel Madeleine Beth McCann.
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Well I find the thought that SY are considering a fresh theory very positive.candyfloss wrote:Interesting video here from ITV, showing one of the last videos of Madeleine, and Emma Murphy reporting. She says...
'They have substantive fresh evidence that has allowed them to consider different theories about what happened' (maybe not exact)
I thought the theory they were pursuing was she was abducted?? Abduction is abduction and means someone has removed her doesn't it? So different theories about what happened??
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-10-04/madeleine-new-technology-is-helping-search/
Just as an aside, at the very start of the video where Madeleine is getting down from the table there is no sign of cuddlecat but the dolly Amelia carried around. Often when a new baby is expected then the toddler awaiting the birth of a sibling is given their own baby. Is that dolly maybe Madeleine's?
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My heart sank when I heard all this today. How long will this circus continue? Hundreds / thousands of children go missing every year so why is this 1 so very special, aren't all children special to someone???
One thought though - ALL phone records, EVERY LAST ONE ????? I do hope so :fingerscrossed
One thought though - ALL phone records, EVERY LAST ONE ????? I do hope so :fingerscrossed
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Perhaps they are now seriously moving towards the position that Madeleine was NOT abducted (it's only taken them 6 years to get up to speed, bless 'em). Phone records, stroppy Pt Judges, looking at four countries (would that be Portugal, England, Scotland and Wales?) and about 41 people (ahem, needn't list them here but we know who they are and so do they).
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about 20 hours ago
'Fresh, substantive' evidence found by Madeleine cops
Gerry and Kate McCann's daughter,
Madeline, disappeared from a holiday flat in Portugal six years ago on May 2007. Credit: John Stillwell/PA Wire/Press Association Images
Kate and Gerry McCann are to make a significant television appeal in light of "fresh, substantive" material unearthed as part of a British police investigation into their daughter's disappearance.
The McCanns will appear live in the studio during an episode of BBC Crimewatch on Monday October 14, which will also feature a reconstruction and pre-recorded interviews with the couple.
Scotland Yard is for the first time trawling through a vast log of mobile phone traffic identified in Praia da Luz, in Portugal, at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-10-03/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-police-investigation/#mccanns-in-substantive-tv-appeal_268590
So this 'fresh substantive evidence' would surely warrant the Portuguese AG reopening the investigation......have they?
'Fresh, substantive' evidence found by Madeleine cops
Gerry and Kate McCann's daughter,
Madeline, disappeared from a holiday flat in Portugal six years ago on May 2007. Credit: John Stillwell/PA Wire/Press Association Images
Kate and Gerry McCann are to make a significant television appeal in light of "fresh, substantive" material unearthed as part of a British police investigation into their daughter's disappearance.
The McCanns will appear live in the studio during an episode of BBC Crimewatch on Monday October 14, which will also feature a reconstruction and pre-recorded interviews with the couple.
Scotland Yard is for the first time trawling through a vast log of mobile phone traffic identified in Praia da Luz, in Portugal, at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-10-03/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-police-investigation/#mccanns-in-substantive-tv-appeal_268590
So this 'fresh substantive evidence' would surely warrant the Portuguese AG reopening the investigation......have they?
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Shakespeare; Romeo & Juliet (?)Newintown wrote:Please can you write your message in plain English so we can all understand it, if it's not too much bother. Thanks.Portia wrote:Doubt thou the Stars are fireNewintown wrote:I've just read Jim Gamble's interview from Radio 4 this morning on Joana's site (I don't know when it was actually recorded), I found it interesting (or maybe not to others) that he used the term "we are where we are" which are exactly the same words that GM used on Friday when he was being interviewed outside the Court.candyfloss wrote:Jim Gamble @JimGamble_INEQE 26m
On @@BBCRadioStoke talking about new developments in the#MadeleineMccann investigation
Hmmm, have JG and GM been having meetings about what may (or may not) be found on the phone records.
Doubt that the Sun doth move
Doubt Truth to be a liar....,
Well, no, actually, I think not, thank you
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It's Hamlet, act 2, scene 2.Portia wrote:Shakespeare; Romeo & Juliet (?)Newintown wrote:Please can you write your message in plain English so we can all understand it, if it's not too much bother. Thanks.Portia wrote:Doubt thou the Stars are fireNewintown wrote:I've just read Jim Gamble's interview from Radio 4 this morning on Joana's site (I don't know when it was actually recorded), I found it interesting (or maybe not to others) that he used the term "we are where we are" which are exactly the same words that GM used on Friday when he was being interviewed outside the Court.candyfloss wrote:Jim Gamble @JimGamble_INEQE 26m
On @@BBCRadioStoke talking about new developments in the#MadeleineMccann investigation
Hmmm, have JG and GM been having meetings about what may (or may not) be found on the phone records.
Doubt that the Sun doth move
Doubt Truth to be a liar....,
Well, no, actually, I think not, thank you
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Newintown wrote:It's Hamlet, act 2, scene 2.Portia wrote:Shakespeare; Romeo & Juliet (?)Newintown wrote:Please can you write your message in plain English so we can all understand it, if it's not too much bother. Thanks.Portia wrote:Doubt thou the Stars are fireNewintown wrote:I've just read Jim Gamble's interview from Radio 4 this morning on Joana's site (I don't know when it was actually recorded), I found it interesting (or maybe not to others) that he used the term "we are where we are" which are exactly the same words that GM used on Friday when he was being interviewed outside the Court.candyfloss wrote:Jim Gamble @JimGamble_INEQE 26m
On @@BBCRadioStoke talking about new developments in the#MadeleineMccann investigation
Hmmm, have JG and GM been having meetings about what may (or may not) be found on the phone records.
Doubt that the Sun doth move
Doubt Truth to be a liar....,
Well, no, actually, I think not, thank you
I see Sir, you take things ill which are not so, or, being, concern you not (yes)
Lovely, this is exactly what I so much like about the Forum!
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So, let me get this right.
Thousands of people who were in PDL at the relevant time are going to receive calls from the police. Presumably on the phones they were using at the time ?
Wonder how many people still own the same phones they did back in 2007 ? Just a thought.
What a complete farce !
Apologies if this has already been raised...only read the first 10 pages of this thread.
Thousands of people who were in PDL at the relevant time are going to receive calls from the police. Presumably on the phones they were using at the time ?
Wonder how many people still own the same phones they did back in 2007 ? Just a thought.
What a complete farce !
Apologies if this has already been raised...only read the first 10 pages of this thread.
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We'll have to start a fund for SY's phone billladyblackthorn wrote:So, let me get this right.
Thousands of people who were in PDL at the relevant time are going to receive calls from the police. Presumably on the phones they were using at the time ?
Wonder how many people still own the same phones they did back in 2007 ? Just a thought.
What a complete farce !
Apologies if this has already been raised...only read the first 10 pages of this thread.
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I didn't know the forum was about understanding Shakespeare, it's about finding out what happened to Madeleine. There are people who post on here who do not have English as their first language, so when you've finished showing off about your Shakespeare knowledge, whether it's Romeo & Juliet or Hamlet, it would be easier if you wrote your posts so everyone can understand them.Portia wrote:Newintown wrote:It's Hamlet, act 2, scene 2.Portia wrote:Shakespeare; Romeo & Juliet (?)Newintown wrote:Please can you write your message in plain English so we can all understand it, if it's not too much bother. Thanks.Portia wrote:Doubt thou the Stars are fireNewintown wrote:I've just read Jim Gamble's interview from Radio 4 this morning on Joana's site (I don't know when it was actually recorded), I found it interesting (or maybe not to others) that he used the term "we are where we are" which are exactly the same words that GM used on Friday when he was being interviewed outside the Court.candyfloss wrote:Jim Gamble @JimGamble_INEQE 26m
On @@BBCRadioStoke talking about new developments in the#MadeleineMccann investigation
Hmmm, have JG and GM been having meetings about what may (or may not) be found on the phone records.
Doubt that the Sun doth move
Doubt Truth to be a liar....,
Well, no, actually, I think not, thank you
I see Sir, you take things ill which are not so, or, being, concern you not (yes)
Lovely, this is exactly what I so much like about the Forum!
Or we could just ignore them which would probably be easier.
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