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2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

Post by ShuBob on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 18:59

Jerry Lawton's tweets copied from mccannfiles roses 

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:17 PM - 2 Oct 13
Judge will decide by Oct 8 if Gerry #McCann can give evidence at libel trial of ex-cop who accused him of covering up Madeleine's death

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:18 PM - 02 Oct 13
Kate #McCann mum Susan will not be allowed to give evidence at trial due to blunder by McCanns' lawyer

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:20 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry #McCann sister Trish Cameron tells court the McCanns are living in 'purgatory' because of ex-cop Goncalo Amaral's claims

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:21 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry's sister: "It's very hard to turn round opinion about them that has been so widely spread" #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:09 PM - 2 Oct 13
Correction: After some debate it now emerges judge will not rule on whether Gerry #McCann can give evidence until after October 16

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:11 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry #McCann sister reveals he made desperate 'cry for help' in phone call to her after Amaral's book was published

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:12 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry and Kate #McCann distress at Madeleine's disappearance was 'multiplied 100 times' by the book which 'vilified' them - Trish Cameron

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
16:40 PM - 19 Sep 13
Gerry #McCann sister - a nurse - said she, friends and relatives had to organise rotas to help distraught couple get through everyday life

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:16 PM - 2 Oct 13
Eduardo Damaso, dep ed of newspaper Correio da Manha, tells court Amaral book 'legitimate defence' of former detective's reputation #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:17 PM - 02 Oct 13
Damaso said Amaral entitled to respond to criticism of the police investigation he ran into Madeleine's disappearance #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:18 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: "He (Amaral) wants to defend the work he did with seriousness." #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:19 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: work of Amaral's police team was attacked 'by everyone while the investigation was ongoing' #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:20 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: 'I may have too much knowledge of the case but I believe the book doesn't bring any extraordinary revelations'. #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:21 PM - 2 Oct 13
After trial adjourned Amaral reveals he, like Gerry #McCann, has applied to the judge to give evidence

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:23 PM - 2 Oct 13
Asked how #McCann libel trial was going Amaral said: "There's a saying in Portugal that you only give forecasts at the end of the game."
I'm assuming Eduardo Damaso is a defense witness? bigshock 

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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

Post by sweetex on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 19:08

@ShuBob wrote:Jerry Lawton's tweets copied from mccannfiles roses 

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:17 PM - 2 Oct 13
Judge will decide by Oct 8 if Gerry #McCann can give evidence at libel trial of ex-cop who accused him of covering up Madeleine's death

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:18 PM - 02 Oct 13
Kate #McCann mum Susan will not be allowed to give evidence at trial due to blunder by McCanns' lawyer

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:20 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry #McCann sister Trish Cameron tells court the McCanns are living in 'purgatory' because of ex-cop Goncalo Amaral's claims

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:21 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry's sister: "It's very hard to turn round opinion about them that has been so widely spread" #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:09 PM - 2 Oct 13
Correction: After some debate it now emerges judge will not rule on whether Gerry #McCann can give evidence until after October 16

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:11 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry #McCann sister reveals he made desperate 'cry for help' in phone call to her after Amaral's book was published

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:12 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry and Kate #McCann distress at Madeleine's disappearance was 'multiplied 100 times' by the book which 'vilified' them - Trish Cameron

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
16:40 PM - 19 Sep 13
Gerry #McCann sister - a nurse - said she, friends and relatives had to organise rotas to help distraught couple get through everyday life

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:16 PM - 2 Oct 13
Eduardo Damaso, dep ed of newspaper Correio da Manha, tells court Amaral book 'legitimate defence' of former detective's reputation #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:17 PM - 02 Oct 13
Damaso said Amaral entitled to respond to criticism of the police investigation he ran into Madeleine's disappearance #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:18 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: "He (Amaral) wants to defend the work he did with seriousness." #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:19 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: work of Amaral's police team was attacked 'by everyone while the investigation was ongoing' #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:20 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: 'I may have too much knowledge of the case but I believe the book doesn't bring any extraordinary revelations'. #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:21 PM - 2 Oct 13
After trial adjourned Amaral reveals he, like Gerry #McCann, has applied to the judge to give evidence

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:23 PM - 2 Oct 13
Asked how #McCann libel trial was going Amaral said: "There's a saying in Portugal that you only give forecasts at the end of the game."
I'm assuming Eduardo Damaso is a defense witness? bigshock 
Confusion on twitter about this too. Some say he was #McCann witness? Will have to wait and see.

If their witness, they may as well stop the trial? lol

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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

Post by JackieL on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 19:15

Eduardo Damaso - whoever you are, witness for the Plaintiff  OR Defence- THANK YOU.  roses roses 

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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

Post by sweetex on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 19:19

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@justiceMANz @1matthewwright1 @DaSteelMan @JerryLawton On Joanas blog it states he was witness brought by the accusation! #McCann

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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

Post by Lance De Boils on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 19:53

Have we had any updates/transcripts from the very helpful person who's been providing them? (Sorry, can't recall her name.) I'm waiting with great interest.
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Post by ShuBob on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 20:10

@Lance De Boils wrote:Have we had any updates/transcripts from the very helpful person who's been providing them? (Sorry, can't recall her name.) I'm waiting with great interest.
That usually takes days to come through given the amount of work Anne Guedes puts into it. God bless that lady roses 

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Post by aiyoyo on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 20:32

@JackieL wrote:Eduardo Damaso - whoever you are, witness for the Plaintiff  OR Defence- THANK YOU.  roses roses 
So far,only plaintiff's witnesses are heard.
The Portuguese ones are probably requested by ID, and notified by Court, then they're obligated to come but not obligated to speak for the side demanding their presence.

It's clear what ID intended - use UK witnesses to support the personality right claim; and hope the Portuguese witnesses will say something to counter Amaral's book thereby supporting the libel claim.  But nothing is going her way at the moment......

Wait till Gerry gets on the stand then her nightmare will worsen.
Gerry on the stand is a liability to her; so you have to wonder whose idea it was that he speaks under Oath?
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Post by plebgate on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 20:39

@sweetex wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:Jerry Lawton's tweets copied from mccannfiles roses 

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:17 PM - 2 Oct 13
Judge will decide by Oct 8 if Gerry #McCann can give evidence at libel trial of ex-cop who accused him of covering up Madeleine's death

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:18 PM - 02 Oct 13
Kate #McCann mum Susan will not be allowed to give evidence at trial due to blunder by McCanns' lawyer

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:20 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry #McCann sister Trish Cameron tells court the McCanns are living in 'purgatory' because of ex-cop Goncalo Amaral's claims

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
2:21 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry's sister: "It's very hard to turn round opinion about them that has been so widely spread" #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:09 PM - 2 Oct 13
Correction: After some debate it now emerges judge will not rule on whether Gerry #McCann can give evidence until after October 16

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:11 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry #McCann sister reveals he made desperate 'cry for help' in phone call to her after Amaral's book was published

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:12 PM - 2 Oct 13
Gerry and Kate #McCann distress at Madeleine's disappearance was 'multiplied 100 times' by the book which 'vilified' them - Trish Cameron

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
16:40 PM - 19 Sep 13
Gerry #McCann sister - a nurse - said she, friends and relatives had to organise rotas to help distraught couple get through everyday life


Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:16 PM - 2 Oct 13
Eduardo Damaso, dep ed of newspaper Correio da Manha, tells court Amaral book 'legitimate defence' of former detective's reputation #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:17 PM - 02 Oct 13
Damaso said Amaral entitled to respond to criticism of the police investigation he ran into Madeleine's disappearance #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:18 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: "He (Amaral) wants to defend the work he did with seriousness." #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:19 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: work of Amaral's police team was attacked 'by everyone while the investigation was ongoing' #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:20 PM - 2 Oct 13
Damaso: 'I may have too much knowledge of the case but I believe the book doesn't bring any extraordinary revelations'. #McCann

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:21 PM - 2 Oct 13
After trial adjourned Amaral reveals he, like Gerry #McCann, has applied to the judge to give evidence

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton
6:23 PM - 2 Oct 13
Asked how #McCann libel trial was going Amaral said: "There's a saying in Portugal that you only give forecasts at the end of the game."
I'm assuming Eduardo Damaso is a defense witness? bigshock 
Confusion on twitter about this too. Some say he was #McCann witness? Will have to wait and see.

If their witness, they may as well stop the trial? lol

IIRC the family used to organise rotas to help them out before they went on holiday?

Mr. phoned his sister with a desparate plea for help after the book was published. Eh? What did he want her to do? Sounds very dramatic to me.

Mr. Damaso witness for the plaintiff. REALLY. titter titter titter 

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Post by sallypelt on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:05

Oh dear!  Trish Cameron, said in court today:
 
"My brother and sister-in-law live in purgatory because they have no end and they are looking for the truth," she told the court.
"They would like an end but there is no end because they don't know what's happened."

So, what happened to the abduction? From the very beginning, KM "KNEW" that Madeleine had been abducted, so what's changed?

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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th

Post by ShuBob on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:12

The Mirror wrote:Asked if the twins knew about the book and the TV programme, she said: "Last week Amelie came in from school and said some people had been talking about it.

"She said that people were talking about them at school, and that it was not all good things that had been said.
Assuming Trish is telling the truth, the McCanns only have themselves to blame for opposing Amaral's request to have case heard behind closed doors with reporting restrictions.

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Post by Lance De Boils on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:13

@ShuBob wrote:
@Lance De Boils wrote:Have we had any updates/transcripts from the very helpful person who's been providing them? (Sorry, can't recall her name.) I'm waiting with great interest.
That usually takes days to come through given the amount of work Anne Guedes puts into it. God bless that lady roses 
Ok, fair enough. She's a diamond.
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Post by Get'emGonçalo on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:17



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Post by Guest on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:30

Oh dear, Look at this,
 
 
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#McCann lawyer, Isabel Duarte, launches tirade against our correspondent outside Palace of Justice in Lisbon earlier. pic.twitter.com/jquraWuvKI
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Post by juliet on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:38

I am very grateful to Anne and others who try to get the truth out. The media must be constrained by law to pretend that the mccanns are victims. Their ludicrous pathetic witness efforts are almost contempt of court.
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Post by JackieL on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:42

candyfloss wrote:Oh dear, Look at this,
 
 
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#McCann lawyer, Isabel Duarte, launches tirade against our correspondent outside Palace of Justice in Lisbon earlier. pic.twitter.com/jquraWuvKI
WTF???!!!!! wft    She had better not have been criticising the WONDERFUL Anne Guedes, the only truly professional reporter at this libel trial.  Thank goodness we have her.

Might be too soon to hope, but seems Team McCann are starting to fall apart.

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Post by Newintown on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:45

@Woofer wrote:Trish Cameron testifying that GAs book was all lies should have raised an objection from the defence or the Judge as Trish Cameron does not know whether GAs book was all lies.
I wonder if the Judge is aware that under the rules and conditions of the Ltd Co "Fund" that the wider family can be assisted by the "Fund", so Trish Cameron isn't going to bite the hand that feeds her (or may feed her in the future) is she????

I don't think anyone could call her an "independent" witness under those circumstances.  winkwink

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Post by JackieL on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:48

QUOTE FROM JOHN, SENIOR EDITOR JUSTICE UK FORUM:

"Yes, it was bound to happen and happen it did today right there in front of the gathered Press.  Not only did the McCann family lawyer, Isabel Duarte, have a lousy day in Court what with having one of her witnesses excluded due to her own incompetence but emotions ran high outside the Palace of Justice itself when she startled the waiting Press by launching a tirade at Anne for trying to take a nice photograph of her."








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McCann family lawyer, Isabel Duarte, pictured outside the Palace of Justice earlier 
today moments before launching a vicious tirade against our own correspondent.

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Post by Newintown on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:51

@JackieL wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Oh dear, Look at this,
 
 
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#McCann lawyer, Isabel Duarte, launches tirade against our correspondent outside Palace of Justice in Lisbon earlier. pic.twitter.com/jquraWuvKI
WTF???!!!!! wft    She had better not have been criticising the WONDERFUL Anne Guedes, the only truly professional reporter at this libel trial.  Thank goodness we have her.

Might be too soon to hope, but seems Team McCann are starting to fall apart.
No doubt she is criticising Anne Guedes as Anne is putting too much info into the public domain and making the McCanns and their witnesses look fools and messing up the McCanns "woe is us" status (as no newspaper anywhere is printing the truth of what is coming out of the court) and they can see their million quid libel claim slipping through their fingers.

ETA: I posted before I saw the previous post of ID outside the court, oh dear, oh dear, ID getting in a lather.  big grin

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Post by plebgate on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:52

@JackieL wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Oh dear, Look at this,
 
 
UK Justice Forum @Justice_forum 2m
#McCann lawyer, Isabel Duarte, launches tirade against our correspondent outside Palace of Justice in Lisbon earlier. pic.twitter.com/jquraWuvKI
WTF???!!!!! wft    She had better not have been criticising the WONDERFUL Anne Guedes, the only truly professional reporter at this libel trial.  Thank goodness we have her.

Might be too soon to hope, but seems Team McCann are starting to fall apart.
My goodness me Isabel launching a tirade!   Would never have thought that could happen.

I had a laugh to myself and I do hope it wasn't Ann Guedes who came in for the tirade, but I always read Anne's name as Angered Us  lol,  looks as it might be Anne who has Angered them  big grin Mr Mrs clapping

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Post by ultimaThule on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:58

@plebgate wrote:
Mr. phoned his sister with a desparate plea for help after the book was published.   Eh? What did he want her to do?   Sounds very dramatic to me.
Maybe Gerry wanted Trish to bring some Calpol with her on her next visit or help him concoct a libel claim that would net his limited company the Fund 1.1million euros?
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Post by MoonGoddess on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 21:59

@JackieL wrote:QUOTE FROM JOHN, SENIOR EDITOR JUSTICE UK FORUM:

"Yes, it was bound to happen and happen it did today right there in front of the gathered Press.  Not only did the McCann family lawyer, Isabel Duarte, have a lousy day in Court what with having one of her witnesses excluded due to her own incompetence but emotions ran high outside the Palace of Justice itself when she startled the waiting Press by launching a tirade at Anne for trying to take a nice photograph of her."








Photo courtesy Anne Guedes.

McCann family lawyer, Isabel Duarte, pictured outside the Palace of Justice earlier 
today moments before launching a vicious tirade against our own correspondent.
I think that's what we call 'rattled' winkwink

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Post by ultimaThule on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 22:09

@Newintown wrote:
@JackieL wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Oh dear, Look at this,
 
 
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#McCann lawyer, Isabel Duarte, launches tirade against our correspondent outside Palace of Justice in Lisbon earlier. pic.twitter.com/jquraWuvKI
WTF???!!!!! wft    She had better not have been criticising the WONDERFUL Anne Guedes, the only truly professional reporter at this libel trial.  Thank goodness we have her.

Might be too soon to hope, but seems Team McCann are starting to fall apart.
No doubt she is criticising Anne Guedes as Anne is putting too much info into the public domain and making the McCanns and their witnesses look fools and messing up the McCanns "woe is us" status (as no newspaper anywhere is printing the truth of what is coming out of the court) and they can see their million quid libel claim slipping through their fingers.

ETA: I posted before I saw the previous post of ID outside the court, oh dear, oh dear, ID getting in a lather.  big grin
Isabel Duarte's discomfiture was plain for all to see when she engaged in that thoroughly unprofessional hair tossing fit of pique with her client outside the court building last Friday.

If Isabel has indeed made a blunder which resulted in Ma Healy being axed from the witness list, I can only hope she secured payment of her fees upfront in cash.
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Post by Seek truth on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 22:11

   Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:


big grin My comment was published with my avatar Mrs
Most of the comments are negative - they'll be whooshed soon.


Well done,
thanks 

Have you seen the ratings now?  

Oh Daily Fail, failed again. Gerry is frustrated? Because he went last week and today? WHATS HE ON ABOUT ?!
Disappointed?
It's simple all Gerry had to do was get the judges permission first! But Daily Mail doesn't know why, they say.sarcastic

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Post by Guest on Wed 2 Oct 2013 - 22:24

Can this really be true? That Gerry McCann's sister told the court that they both felt 100 times worse when Amaral's book was published than they did when they discovered Madeleine was missing? Is she really trying to help them? How does she imagine that kind of information makes her brother and sister-in-law come across?
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