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Post by Guest on 01.10.13 8:16

What's Up Dog? Oh I See!

Posted by Himself on The McCann Gallery:

I would love to say that the brilliant idea of juxtaposing these two images was my idea, but it wasn't and I can't. I have given attribution to Annabel, should it be otherwise, perhaps someone might let me know.

It's quite an eye opener by anybody's standards, what with a blue bag in the closet n'all, and that pooch don't strike me as quite so unreliable as others would have us believe.

Whenever I hear aspersions cast on the dogs regarding their abillities, I always get the impression from those that would argue such, that they actually think the hounds have some kind of agenda.

Let me give you a little analogy. If the dogs were trained to detect, shall we say, marmalade, then that's what they would alert to, pure and simple.


Let me take this a step further, if the Marmalade Dogs were brought in to search numerous and varied locations, and the Marmalade Dogs alerted in three or four places as they were trained, how many of the previously mentioned detractors would have a problem with the dog's findings?

Answers on a postcard please.







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Post by plebgate on 01.10.13 8:37

The first pic. OMG that really is an eye opener.

As someone posted a long time ago, if a babysitter was employed and pics like these were shown, what parent wouldn't be banging on the Portugese police station door to re-open the case?







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Post by PeterMac on 01.10.13 9:04

And let us say again, it is not merely the fact that they alerted to those places,
it is that THEY ALERTED TO NO OTHERS.

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Post by tigger on 01.10.13 9:55

PeterMac wrote:And let us say again, it is not merely the fact that they alerted to those places,
it is that THEY ALERTED TO NO OTHERS.
- and statistically speaking, that's a clincher.

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Re: Cadaver Dogs v Marmalade Dogs

Post by PeterMac on 01.10.13 10:53

tigger wrote:
PeterMac wrote:And let us say again, it is not merely the fact that they alerted to those places,
it is that THEY ALERTED TO NO OTHERS.
- and statistically speaking, that's a clincher.
Well quite.
You are getting Positives and NO False negatives.

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Re: Cadaver Dogs v Marmalade Dogs

Post by unchained melody on 02.08.14 20:49

Bump or woof!

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Post by Justformaddie on 04.08.14 10:22

plebgate wrote:The first pic.  OMG that really is an eye opener.

As someone posted a long time ago, if  a babysitter was employed and pics like these were shown, what parent wouldn't be  banging on the Portugese police station door to re-open the case?






That is a fantastic post, plebgate. I wish someone could (r@m it ) push it(down OG thr@@t) under OG nose!
Seriously but, if there had been a babysitter, the mcs would've been banging on all police doors! IMO 
UNBELIEVABLE AND SICK!

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 16.09.17 23:37

I make no apologies for bumping this post for the dog detractors on twitter.
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Post by Verdi on 16.09.17 23:46

"Let me take this a step further, if the Marmalade Dogs were brought in to search numerous and varied locations, and the Marmalade Dogs alerted in three or four places as they were trained, how many of the previously mentioned detractors would have a problem with the dog's findings?"

Well, that would rather depend on what they 'allegedly' had for breakfast when not eating at the Millennium restaurant.

Cornflakes v. Toast and Marmalade?

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Post by sandancer on 16.09.17 23:57

Verdi wrote:"Let me take this a step further, if the Marmalade Dogs were brought in to search numerous and varied locations, and the Marmalade Dogs alerted in three or four places as they were trained, how many of the previously mentioned detractors would have a problem with the dog's findings?"

Well, that would rather depend on what they 'allegedly' had for breakfast when not eating at the Millennium restaurant.

Cornflakes v. Toast and Marmalade?


Surely it would be " good quality " Marmalade , the unreliable dogs would only alert to the cheap stuff !

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Post by ChippyM on 17.09.17 10:03

Interesting Article about dogs!.....with an interesting headline whistling

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/14/british-police-unveil-first-cyber-dogs-can-sniff-paedophiles/


"British police unveil first cyber dogs which can 'sniff out' paedophiles


The first FBI-trained cyber dogs have been successfully used by British police to help bring paedophiles to justice.
Police are using the detection dogs to track down computer software hidden in homes of suspected sex offenders.
The dogs are specially trained to sniff out hidden hard drives and other electronic storage devices that could contain damning digital evidence, such as indecent images of children or terrorism material.
Essex Police successfully used them this week during a raid.
The 18-month-old Springer Spaniel, named Tweed, was able to track down a number of items which are now being forensically examined.



Springer Spaniel Tweed is one of the UK's first specially trained cyber detection police dogs.

PC Jan Simpson said: “We will not tolerate those committing this heinous crime and, using all the tools available to us including specialist resources such as Tweed, we will continue to root out those committing these offences and bring them to justice.
“If you are taking, viewing, downloading or distributing indecent images of children, then it is only a matter of time before you can expect us to knock on your door.
“We are very grateful to Devon and Cornwall Police for allowing Tweed to provide invaluable support.”
Tweed, and her colleague a Labrador named Rob, are based with Devon and Cornwall Police and are the only two cyber detection dogs in the country.



Police are using the detection dogs to track down computer software hidden in homes of suspected sex offenders and terrorists.  

The pair are the only dogs outside of the USA to be trained in this way and received specialist training from the FBI.
They were then trained up by the dogs policing unit at Devon and Cornwall Police and passed their training in May.
Guided by her handler, PC Martin King, during the operation on Wednesday, Tweed was able to locate a number of devices and electrical equipment. 
DCI Jon Burgess, of Essex Police, tweeted: "Essex Police Online Team used Cyber-dogs for the 1st time to assist with searching a sex offenders property yesterday, positive result!" 



PD Tweed is one of the country's first cyber detection dogs.

Similar to dogs which are trained to detect drugs, these dogs have been trained to key into a specific chemical used to cool memory chips in computers.
The initiative was first pioneered in 2015 by Connecticut State Police.
During the training of the first cyber dogs, one was used to help bring former spokesman for the Subway sandwich chain Jared Fogel to justice in Kentucky.
The Labrador helped officers locate 16 smartphones, 10 flash drives and six laptops during an 11-hour search of Fogle’s home. He was later jailed for 15 years for child sex offences."

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Post by worriedmum on 17.09.17 15:36

ChippyM wrote:Interesting Article about dogs!.....with an interesting headline whistling

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/14/british-police-unveil-first-cyber-dogs-can-sniff-paedophiles/


"British police unveil first cyber dogs which can 'sniff out' paedophiles


The first FBI-trained cyber dogs have been successfully used by British police to help bring paedophiles to justice.
Police are using the detection dogs to track down computer software hidden in homes of suspected sex offenders.
The dogs are specially trained to sniff out hidden hard drives and other electronic storage devices that could contain damning digital evidence, such as indecent images of children or terrorism material.
Essex Police successfully used them this week during a raid.
The 18-month-old Springer Spaniel, named Tweed, was able to track down a number of items which are now being forensically examined.



Springer Spaniel Tweed is one of the UK's first specially trained cyber detection police dogs.

PC Jan Simpson said: “We will not tolerate those committing this heinous crime and, using all the tools available to us including specialist resources such as Tweed, we will continue to root out those committing these offences and bring them to justice.
“If you are taking, viewing, downloading or distributing indecent images of children, then it is only a matter of time before you can expect us to knock on your door.
“We are very grateful to Devon and Cornwall Police for allowing Tweed to provide invaluable support.”
Tweed, and her colleague a Labrador named Rob, are based with Devon and Cornwall Police and are the only two cyber detection dogs in the country.



Police are using the detection dogs to track down computer software hidden in homes of suspected sex offenders and terrorists.  

The pair are the only dogs outside of the USA to be trained in this way and received specialist training from the FBI.
They were then trained up by the dogs policing unit at Devon and Cornwall Police and passed their training in May.
Guided by her handler, PC Martin King, during the operation on Wednesday, Tweed was able to locate a number of devices and electrical equipment. 
DCI Jon Burgess, of Essex Police, tweeted: "Essex Police Online Team used Cyber-dogs for the 1st time to assist with searching a sex offenders property yesterday, positive result!" 



PD Tweed is one of the country's first cyber detection dogs.

Similar to dogs which are trained to detect drugs, these dogs have been trained to key into a specific chemical used to cool memory chips in computers.
The initiative was first pioneered in 2015 by Connecticut State Police.
During the training of the first cyber dogs, one was used to help bring former spokesman for the Subway sandwich chain Jared Fogel to justice in Kentucky.
The Labrador helped officers locate 16 smartphones, 10 flash drives and six laptops during an 11-hour search of Fogle’s home. He was later jailed for 15 years for child sex offences."
What a  total waste of money.
Didn't you know they are 'unreliable'?   eyebrows
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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.09.17 10:40



From twitter.
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Post by willowthewisp on 18.09.17 14:50

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

From twitter.
Dogs were wrong eh Gerry,"Ask the dogs"Sandra,Mark Rowley,Assistant Commander of Metropolitan Police Service.
What we do is take everything back to square one,but not in this case,"Operation Grange" 17 Dog alerts Mark,ding,ding,cognitive dissonance wont help,Misconduct in Public Office?

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