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Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

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Post by jeanmonroe on 24.08.13 10:57

And also very strange that a picture of Madeleine is now placed almost 'out of sight' in the PDL church.
And also, WHY did the Vatican remove ALL references to the McCanns (and Madeleine) very swiftly after the McCanns 'visit' to Rome?

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Re: Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

Post by whmon on 24.08.13 11:07

@jeanmonroe wrote:And also very strange that a picture of Madeleine is now placed almost 'out of sight' in the PDL church.
And also, WHY did the Vatican remove ALL references to the McCanns (and Madeleine) very swiftly after the McCanns 'visit' to Rome?
I wonder if the priest who took confession confided in his superior about it, and the content of the confession went further up the ranks?

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Re: Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

Post by Tony Bennett on 24.08.13 11:16

@jeanmonroe wrote:And also very strange that a picture of Madeleine is now placed almost 'out of sight' in the PDL church.
And also, WHY did the Vatican remove ALL references to the McCanns (and Madeleine) very swiftly after the McCanns 'visit' to Rome?
CORRECTION: The Vatican website 'whooshed' the appeal to find Madeleine McCann from their website approximately 36 to 48 hours before Dr Goncalo Amaral pulled the McCanns in for questioning - the Vatican did this late on the evening of 5 September 2007 IIRC

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Re: Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

Post by jeanmonroe on 24.08.13 11:21

The devout Catholic McCanns must be PRAYING like mad, that the new Pope, Francis, dosen't instigate a re-investigation of the case by the Catholic church.
Possibly trying to 'hoodwink' a previous Pope wouldn't , i imagine, 'go down to well' would it?
Didn't the priest in PDL, at the time, say something like he felt he had been 'deceived/hoodwinked' by the McCanns?

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Re: Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

Post by jeanmonroe on 24.08.13 11:29

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:And also very strange that a picture of Madeleine is now placed almost 'out of sight' in the PDL church.
And also, WHY did the Vatican remove ALL references to the McCanns (and Madeleine) very swiftly after the McCanns 'visit' to Rome?
CORRECTION: The Vatican website 'whooshed' the appeal to find Madeleine McCann from their website approximately 36 to 48 hours before Dr Goncalo Amaral pulled the McCanns in for questioning - the Vatican did this late on the evening of 5 September 2007 IIRC
Thankyou Tony.
But 'swiftly' in this mysterious case is relative! LOL.
3 months to 'remove' references
6 YEARS, and counting, to 'solve' the mystery of the disappearance of a child.

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Re: Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

Post by jeanmonroe on 24.08.13 11:34

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488262/I-deceived-says-Portuguese-priest-comforted-Gerry-Kate-McCann.html

'I was deceived' says the Portuguese priest who comforted Gerry and Kate McCann

Last updated at 10:03 18 October 2007

The Portuguese priest who comforted Gerry and Kate McCann in the days after Madeleine vanished last night said he had been deceived, it has emerged.
According to reports, Father Jose Manuel Pacheco claimed he had done nothing wrong and was simply "supporting two lost souls."
But, bizarrely, he also appeared to say he had been the victim of some form of deception.
It has also emerged Father Pacheco was apparently called in to see his superior, Algarve Bishop Manuel Quintas and warned about his behaviour. (he didn't believe THEM?)
In the days after Madeleine vanished on May 3, the McCanns, both 39 and devout Catholics, frequently sought refuge at the priest's church.
They became so close to Father Pacheco, he gave them the keys to the tiny building so they could go in to pray whenever they liked.
However, his friendship with the couple appeared to spectacularly backfire after police became convinced Kate had told him she had killed her daughter during confession.
But he has vowed to take whatever she had said to the grave, despite being quizzed by detectives.
Father Pacheco appeared to virtually vanish from the public eye in the weeks after Gerry and Kate were made arguidos - or official suspects.

The pair left Portugal without saying goodbye, (Oh, how NICE of them!) and handed the church keys to another clergyman.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 24.08.13 11:44

Can the new Pope order Father Jose Manuel Pacheco to 'divulge' what he think he knows about any 'confession' given to him, to an internal inquiry by the Catholic Church?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 24.08.13 12:04

@jeanmonroe wrote:Can the new Pope order Father Jose Manuel Pacheco to 'divulge' what he think he knows about any 'confession' given to him, to an internal inquiry by the Catholic Church?
NO! That would undermine the whole ratioanle of the Roman Catholic Church at a stroke!

Their idea is that you confess your sins to the priest, not to God - also you pray to Mary and dead people (saints) instead of to God.

And in the process, the priests file fortnightly reports to the Vatican's Intelligence Centre on what they learn via the confessional booth and from other sources. Whatever is disclosed in the confessional remains within the church - even if people confess robbery, rape or murder This way the Vatican has the best 'spy' network in the world - helping it to maintain its power

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Post by marconi on 24.08.13 12:10

@jeanmonroe wrote:Can the new Pope order Father Jose Manuel Pacheco to 'divulge' what he think he knows about any 'confession' given to him, to an internal inquiry by the Catholic Church?
According to what I remember, Father Pacheco does not speak English. See the Maddie case Files.

Besides I don't believe that Kate ever confessed anything to any priest.

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Post by marconi on 24.08.13 12:14

@jeanmonroe wrote:And also very strange that a picture of Madeleine is now placed almost 'out of sight' in the PDL church.
And also, WHY did the Vatican remove ALL references to the McCanns (and Madeleine) very swiftly after the McCanns 'visit' to Rome?
Te Vatican removed the photo after the parents were made arguidos.  Before she was presented as"missing person".

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Re: Maddie: PJ already has letters rogatory and prepares steps (google translate)

Post by Tony Bennett on 24.08.13 12:20

@marconi wrote:The Vatican removed the photo after the parents were made arguidos. 
No, that was on 7 Sep 2007. The Madeleine McCann page was removed from the Pope's website two days earlier. Besides, he had other things to concentrate on, like conferring with his Cardinals on how much money they could afford to give to tens of thousands of people their priests had grossly abused for decades, leaving many of them with lifelong scars

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