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NOT AGAIN!!!!! - Portugal cabbie offers lead to Scotland Yard's Madeleine McCann investigation -Standard 16/8/13

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Post by jeanmonroe on Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:43 am

@Casey5 wrote:Does the newspaper think it's helping the McCanns in rehashing this story?
After all, the taxi driver fingered Kate as the woman in his taxi.big grin
You might want to re-word the 'fingering' thingy!
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Post by Casey5 on Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:51 am

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@Casey5 wrote:Does the newspaper think it's helping the McCanns in rehashing this story?
After all, the taxi driver fingered Kate as the woman in his taxi.big grin
You might want to re-word the 'fingering' thingy!
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Hi jeanmonroe, I definitely meant in the "police- legal" sense but you're right I should have worded it better.
The taxi driver might sue me.
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Post by aiyoyo on Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:21 am

Yi Gawd, the Standard must have ran out of interesting stories to fill up pages.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:25 am

I don't understand why the newspapers are allowed to print old news, surely members of the public must read and think "I've read that story before, so what's new." If this is the only way they can sell their newspapers then there in a sorry state. There are more important issue's in this country they could print to keep people informed.

aiyoyo, So agree.
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Post by Hicks on Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:09 am

Cherry Blossom wrote:I don't understand why the newspapers are allowed to print old news, surely members of the public must read and think "I've read that story before, so what's new." If this is the only way they can sell their newspapers then there in a sorry state. There are more important issue's in this country they could print to keep people informed.

aiyoyo, So agree.
Hi Cherry Blossom, I remember reading about this story , the Taxi driver stated that he picked up Madeleine 'on the night' she disappeared, possibly with the help of Mitchell this story has been spun to have now happened on the 4th May, the driver claimed he contacted the PJ two days after the car ride, once again this was changed to discredit him by saying it took ten months for him to come forward, this is not true.
The driver said the female 'looked like Kate' not that is was definitely her, he also said  that M looked like she was doped, I only have to look at the make up photo to know that this could be true.

For TM to go the trouble of rearranging this mans story leads me to believe it must be true.  RM was there too.

I have read Kate's reaction to this, she said that Madeleine's chin didn't twitch, I find that incredulous, If a child has been snatched by strangers and in fearful state the chin twitching is a child who is almost too afraid to cry, we have all seen children who are about to cry by their chin twitching.

I believe that this mans story is true, and perhaps so do certain sections of the press.

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Post by Mike on Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:12 am

@ Hicks

how doyou explain the dogs?
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Post by Hobs on Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:38 am

Remember also that Robert Murat looks almost identical to david payne and both of them look scarily similar to an estate agent who lived in PDL Angus Symington.

which ever way the story is spun the reactions of the blood and cadaver dogs to the aprtment, clothes, cuddle cat and the hire car are the elephant in the lounge. They simply cannot be ignored

Robert Murat, david payne and Angus Symington , spot the similarity
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Post by Hicks on Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:10 am

chris wrote:@ Hicks

how doyou explain the dogs?
Ok...this might sound a bit far fetched but not impossible........judging by the swiftness that the marketing of M was put into place, the 'several' postcard size photos of M ready and available to be distributed almost straight away, I believe that there was a plan to have M adopted and make it look like she had been abducted but then perhaps the backed out(30th April)( remember Gerry, secretly filmed, laughing and joking a few days after M went missing just outside of the door of 5a?)

What if, as part of the plan, the MC'S had brought the scent of death with them? they are two doctors who would be forensically aware, they would find it easy to get access to materials with it on, this would confuse things as there would definitely be no body to find, in fact, it is as though Gerry throws us out the challenge by saying," find her body and prove we killed her", and, "ask the dogs Sandra". The blood would be easy to sort.
Apart form this scenario....I can't explain the dogs.

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Post by Cristobell on Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:07 am

As some have said this story has been round the block a few times.  Saw another version in the Mirror too in which the cabbie says no-one has contacted him in 5 years.  So all those detectives, starting with Metodo 3, Hallagen, Edgar and whoever else, have never spoken to him.  The only thing this really confirms is that McCann private eyes have in fact done nothing of an investigative nature this past 6 years.

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Post by Hicks on Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:17 am

@Cristobell wrote:As some have said this story has been round the block a few times.  Saw another version in the Mirror too in which the cabbie says no-one has contacted him in 5 years.  So all those detectives, starting with Metodo 3, Hallagen, Edgar and whoever else, have never spoken to him.  The only thing this really confirms is that McCann private eyes have in fact done nothing of an investigative nature this past 6 years.
This story never would get any attention as it did not fit in with the timelines given by the MC'S or their friends, nobody it seems looked beyond their strictly accurate, straightforward, truthful account of the evening of May 3rd 2007!   no
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Post by russiandoll on Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:29 am

Just on a preview of the front pages review on Sky, due 10.30 pm. This taxi driver story is on Express front page tomorrow.

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:31 am

With hat tip to PeterMac: Express want their money back ...
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:38 am

@russiandoll wrote:Just on a preview of the front pages review on Sky, due 10.30 pm. This taxi driver story is on Express front page tomorrow.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:23 am

The headline about the heat is very bad news for me!

I daresay this silly story will eventually be in all the tabloids again with no mention of it being regurgitated.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:16 pm

candyfloss wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:Just on a preview of the front pages review on Sky, due 10.30 pm. This taxi driver story is on Express front page tomorrow.
Same old, same old!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/422662/Taxi-driver-tells-police-I-can-help-you-find-Madeleine-McCann

This online edition has a different picture of Maddie.
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Post by aiyoyo on Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:54 pm

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/332974/Madeleine-McCann-I-can-help-UK-cops-claims-cabbie


Antonio Castela says three men, a woman and a girl who resembled the missing three-year-old got into his cab in the Algarve.

Mr Castela, 73, says the little girl was wearing pink pyjamas like Madeleine and had the same distinctive mark in her right eye.

  How on earth at that time (4th May) did he know what Madeleine's pyjamas looks like ?  
How did he manage to see into the eyes of Madeleine from the front seat while he was driving ?

Either he's over imaginative or barking mad as frog.  



But although he reported his sighting to Portugal’s CID, the Policia Judiciaria, and gave police a statement, he never heard anything further.

Now that Home Secretary Theresa May has applied for official permission for Scotland Yard officers to launch a new investigation in Portugal, they could fly out within weeks. Mr Castela said: “I want to tell them what I saw and assist in the investigation. I remember all the details.”
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:23 pm

@aiyoyo wrote:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/332974/Madeleine-McCann-I-can-help-UK-cops-claims-cabbie


Antonio Castela says three men, a woman and a girl who resembled the missing three-year-old got into his cab in the Algarve.

Mr Castela, 73, says the little girl was wearing pink pyjamas like Madeleine and had the same distinctive mark in her right eye.

  How on earth at that time (4th May) did he know what Madeleine's pyjamas looks like ?  
How did he manage to see into the eyes of Madeleine from the front seat while he was driving ?

Either he's over imaginative or barking mad as frog.  



But although he reported his sighting to Portugal’s CID, the Policia Judiciaria, and gave police a statement, he never heard anything further.

Now that Home Secretary Theresa May has applied for official permission for Scotland Yard officers to launch a new investigation in Portugal, they could fly out within weeks. Mr Castela said: “I want to tell them what I saw and assist in the investigation. I remember all the details.”
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:28 pm

Let's hope it wasn't the sardine sandwich.

I think that Mr C can definitely join the ranks of the drunken holidaymakers, attention seekers and ex-pats who are sure, months after the event, that they saw Madeleine.

Thanks to the vastly differing photos and incorrect information about her appearance, nobody has any idea what she really looked like.
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Post by Searcher on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:51 pm

If the cabbie believed at the time that he saw something significant, but it was allegedly not investigated, then why did he not go straight to the media in 2007?

It should also be said that screen memories can play huge tricks especially after a gap of several years.  Yet it is being presented virtually as fact.

I am also interested as to why the D. Express have chosen to give this story front-page prominence in today's edition - but nothing on the witness statements of the Smiths and Dr. Gaspar.

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Post by Searcher on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:52 pm

If the cabbie believed at the time that he saw something significant, but it was allegedly not investigated, then why did he not go straight to the media in 2007?

It should also be said that screen memories can play huge tricks especially after a gap of several years.  Yet it is being presented virtually as fact.

I am also interested as to why the D. Express have chosen to give this story front-page prominence in today's edition - but nothing on the witness statements of the Smiths and Dr. Gaspar.

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Post by jeanmonroe on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:05 pm

Cherry asked:

"How on earth at that time (4th May) did he know what Madeleine's pyjamas looked like? "
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Yes, how is THAT possible?

WE only knew what the pyjamas, supposedly, looked like, for the FIRST time, when  Kate and Gerry went to Berlin on 6th JUNE 2007.
A whole MONTH after Madeleine went 'missing'!
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/17-July8/timeline/7abc.JPG

So HOW Mr C 'knew' what Madeleine in pyjamas 'looked like' a DAY after she went 'missing' is anybody's guess!

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Post by Hicks on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:07 pm

@Searcher wrote:If the cabbie believed at the time that he saw something significant, but it was allegedly not investigated, then why did he not go straight to the media in 2007?

It should also be said that screen memories can play huge tricks especially after a gap of several years.  Yet it is being presented virtually as fact.

I am also interested as to why the D. Express have chosen to give this story front-page prominence in today's edition - but nothing on the witness statements of the Smiths and Dr. Gaspar.
Ok, I am going to try and post this once more!splat .

Please look at this taxi-drivers story from 2008.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjoana-morais.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F02%2Ftaxi-driver-story-and-rogatory-letter.html&ei=BmQPUu2CCIyX0AX8woHAAg&usg=AFQjCNFCso64hw4RDU5qo-qGcv3QK6oWGA&bvm=bv.50768961,d.d2k.

Note he said the female 'looked like Kate, he didn't insist that it was definitely her.

Please read CM reaction to it back then and the later retraction.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthepottingshedder.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F05%2Fspinning-memory-of-clarence-mitchell.html&ei=BmQPUu2CCIyX0AX8woHAAg&usg=AFQjCNEEEoOOysud2CGJhDh7TgrzANl9Cg&bvm=bv.50768961,d.d2k.

Strange isn't it that at first CM completely rubbishes this story, haven' to date heard him do that to any other sighting no matter how bizarre they may seem, no indeed, he will say that 'they did the right thing in coming forward.

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Post by Hicks on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:09 pm

@Hicks wrote:
@Searcher wrote:If the cabbie believed at the time that he saw something significant, but it was allegedly not investigated, then why did he not go straight to the media in 2007?

It should also be said that screen memories can play huge tricks especially after a gap of several years.  Yet it is being presented virtually as fact.

I am also interested as to why the D. Express have chosen to give this story front-page prominence in today's edition - but nothing on the witness statements of the Smiths and Dr. Gaspar.
Ok, I am going to try and post this once more!splat .

Please look at this taxi-drivers story from 2008.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjoana-morais.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F02%2Ftaxi-driver-story-and-rogatory-letter.html&ei=BmQPUu2CCIyX0AX8woHAAg&usg=AFQjCNFCso64hw4RDU5qo-qGcv3QK6oWGA&bvm=bv.50768961,d.d2k.

Note he said the female 'looked like Kate, he didn't insist that it was definitely her.

Please read CM reaction to it back then and the later retraction.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthepottingshedder.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F05%2Fspinning-memory-of-clarence-mitchell.html&ei=BmQPUu2CCIyX0AX8woHAAg&usg=AFQjCNEEEoOOysud2CGJhDh7TgrzANl9Cg&bvm=bv.50768961,d.d2k.

Strange isn't it that at first CM completely rubbishes this story, haven' to date heard him do that to any other sighting no matter how bizarre they may seem, no indeed, he will say that 'they did the right thing in coming forward.
Oops....Sorry about the space taken up by the links. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to tell me how to post without this happening.smilie .
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:16 pm

@Hicks wrote:
@Hicks wrote:
@Searcher wrote:If the cabbie believed at the time that he saw something significant, but it was allegedly not investigated, then why did he not go straight to the media in 2007?

It should also be said that screen memories can play huge tricks especially after a gap of several years.  Yet it is being presented virtually as fact.

I am also interested as to why the D. Express have chosen to give this story front-page prominence in today's edition - but nothing on the witness statements of the Smiths and Dr. Gaspar.
Ok, I am going to try and post this once more!splat .

Please look at this taxi-drivers story from 2008.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjoana-morais.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F02%2Ftaxi-driver-story-and-rogatory-letter.html&ei=BmQPUu2CCIyX0AX8woHAAg&usg=AFQjCNFCso64hw4RDU5qo-qGcv3QK6oWGA&bvm=bv.50768961,d.d2k.

Note he said the female 'looked like Kate, he didn't insist that it was definitely her.

Please read CM reaction to it back then and the later retraction.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthepottingshedder.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F05%2Fspinning-memory-of-clarence-mitchell.html&ei=BmQPUu2CCIyX0AX8woHAAg&usg=AFQjCNEEEoOOysud2CGJhDh7TgrzANl9Cg&bvm=bv.50768961,d.d2k.

Strange isn't it that at first CM completely rubbishes this story, haven' to date heard him do that to any other sighting no matter how bizarre they may seem, no indeed, he will say that 'they did the right thing in coming forward.
Oops....Sorry about the space taken up by the links. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to tell me how to post without this happening.smilie .
I posted the correct links to Joana Morais and Potting Shedder earlier in thread.
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Post by jeanmonroe on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:19 pm

Hicks:

When you have the 'page' up just right click the http: bit , it will highlight in blue, and on the little menu drop down left click on copy.
Then when you want to insert into your post right click mouse, select paste, and left click on PASTE, to insert into post

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