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Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by sallypelt on Thu Aug 01 2013, 16:20

candyfloss wrote:
sallypelt wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/418929/Madeleine-McCann-inquiry-wins-backing-from-Portugal

Opps, I didn't mean to send this as a new thread. Can you please remover to another thread, please?
"remover" spit coffee Mrs  I really need to stop multi-tasking and concentrate.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Lance De Boils on Thu Aug 01 2013, 16:41

Tony Bennett wrote:On another thread (dealing with my request for information from Operation Grange about trips abroad made by DCI Redwood and his staff)...

Lance de Boils wrote:

This is (imo) the easiest way to make FOI requests to any public body:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/


and Loopzadaloop (referring to my request) said:

No, please don't send requests like that.

Use www.whatdotheyknow.com it's quick and easy to use.

As it is public they will feel under more obligation to respond. Then we can all see!

Also, if you receive a nonsense response like Tony did, the website helps you to request an internal review, followed by a trip to the Information Commissioner.


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Well, I'm grateful for the information. I wasn't aware of this facility, so I am now trying it out. I have been wary of using sites with an automated facility, so will report back here in due course on how we get on with my first attempt at using this site, which runs as follows:

To: Home Office Freedom of Information Section

From: Anthony Bennett

1 August 2013

Dear Home Office,

On 30 July 2013, the London Evening Standard reported as follows:

"Home Secretary Theresa May has sent an official request to Lisbon
for permission for Scotland Yard to begin a new investigation in
Portugal into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

It follows the disclosure that the Met has identified 38 potential
suspects — including 12 Britons — who are “of interest” because of
their presence in Portugal when Madeleine vanished".

In relation to the above, please provide the following information:

1. The date the letter to the Portuguese was sent

2. To whom (name of department and person) the letter was sent (the
article merely says it was sent 'to Lisbon'), and

3. The full text of the letter.

Yours faithfully,

Anthony Bennett
66 Chippingfield
HARLOW
Essex

Tel: 01279 635789
Mobile: 07835 716537


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ETA:

My goodness, less than 5 minutes after sending in my request via WhatDoTheyKnow, I got this:

From: FOI Requests, Home Office

1 August 2013

Thank you for contacting the FOI Requests mailbox.

Your message has been logged and will be dealt with shortly.

We aim to provide a response to all FOI requests within 20 working days.

If your message is with regard to an existing FOI case or is a general query please ensure you have left any file references and contact details.

Thank you.

[show quoted sections]

Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or  recorded for legal purposes.

ENDS

Ah, glad you looked at whatdotheyknow.com Tony - I've used it myself in the past and found it an efficient tool.

And as Loopzdaloop pointed out, even the requests are in the public domain, so it's easy to see when FOI requests have been responded to, denied, or even ignored as seems to be the case occasionally. It's all logged there for the wider public to see.
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Post by marconi on Thu Aug 01 2013, 20:55

regretful to call it a charade investigation.

it is not.

England is telling us much more than we have ever heard from the PJ.

we have to be patient.yes

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Post by marconi on Thu Aug 01 2013, 21:07

I regret that there are people that called the Yard's work  and Mrs. May decision as been a charade investigation.

Things can not go as fast as we want. Of course we all know that Maddie died in the apartment and that the perpetrator got away with it.

We have to be patient and wait till the Met get the evidence, which is already found by the PJ.

We must be very happy that at least we are hearing about the case, and not depending of the mysterios silence of the PJ's, which can be very irritating.

As I wrote here before, an investigation is also based on elimination. Most of those 38 persons of interest, if not all of them, are not involved in the crime.
But they have to be eliminated of suspicion.
Only after the whole road is cleaned up, the Yard will arrive at Tapas 9, llike the PJ did in 2007.
Maybe there are one of two people in Algarve who know more about the case, the whereabouts of the corpse, etc.

We have to wait.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Tony Bennett on Thu Aug 01 2013, 21:17

Tony Bennett wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Well done TB.

I hope you also asked why the prestigious investigation 'Operation GRANGE' is being called 'Operation fcuking STRANGE' by the vast majority of the great British public.
big grin big grin big grin
There must be a limerick there somewhere...
This is it:

Cameron told May: "Please arrange
A Review of a case very strange:
Amaral was all twisted -
And Rebekah's insisted
So now we've got Redwood - and Grange.

The Review's cost 5 million quid
But it's worth it for one missing kid
The Review had stagnated,
But now we're elated...
Portugal's said 'Yes' to our bid.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by sharonl on Thu Aug 01 2013, 22:47

Portugal cooperate with Scotland Yard in the search for Madeleine McCann

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2013/08/01/internacional/1375358575.html

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The Portuguese authorities have agreed to collaborate with the British police, which have announced new clues about the context in which being neglected little Madeleine McCann's apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve in Portugal, where he was vacationing with his family in 2007 .

"We confirm having received a request for judicial assistance from the British authorities (...) which has been accepted," said a spokesman for the prosecutor.

"British police may not, however, act alone in the country. They may only work with the Portuguese authorities so request", he explained the spokesman.

Scotland Yard, which opened an investigation in the UK, announced it was working on "new and serious clues" about the mystery of the disappearance of British girl. He also announced that he planned to question 38 people having analyzed the results of two years of the Portuguese police investigation at the request of British Prime Minister David Cameron.

These people are not necessarily suspects, according to Scotland Yard has stated. These include Portuguese and 12 British citizens who were in the country at the time of the disappearance of 'Maddie'. The researchers want to determine whether the respondents are involved in the case.

Kate and Gerry McCann, who believe that their daughter was abducted, were considered suspect by the Portuguese police, but this branch of the investigation was closed on July 21, 2008, after 14 months of investigations controversial. No charges were filed against them.

Since 2011, Scotland Yard has turned to solving the case that reached a global relevance. British police, which also features information gathered by Portuguese researchers and seven private investigators visited Portugal several times and interviewed new witnesses, which brought together more than 30,000 documents. Until then, reiterated Portuguese police have no more evidence that could reopen the investigation.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Smokeandmirrors on Thu Aug 01 2013, 22:56

Tony Bennett wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Well done TB.

I hope you also asked why the prestigious investigation 'Operation GRANGE' is being called 'Operation fcuking STRANGE' by the vast majority of the great British public.
big grin big grin big grin
There must be a limerick there somewhere...
This is it:

Cameron told May: "Please arrange
A Review of a case very strange:
Amaral was all twisted -
And Rebekah's insisted
So now we've got Redwood - and Grange.

The Review's cost 5 million quid
But it's worth it for one missing kid
The Review had stagnated,
But now we're elated...
Portugal's said 'Yes' to our bid.

 Marvellous!bravo

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by littlepixie on Fri Aug 02 2013, 00:21

I have followed this case from more or less day one. There is one thing that I have never understood and I wonder if anyone might be able to shed some light on this as it bugs me.

I may have seen only the one version of the Eddie & Keela video where they alert to cadaver and blood (there may be others) but on the video is slapped "The Sun" as in the Sun Newspaper.
It was also the editor of the Sun Rebekah Brookes who lent on (almost threatened) David Cameron to open the review into the case that is ongoing now.

The Sun video of the cadaver and blood dogs is damning as it indicates that a dead body was in the same apartment that the child had disappeared from. I presume that the Sun would have drawn the same conclusion as anyone else after seeing that video, that somebody dead and bleeding had been in there at some stage.

MANY, many stories have been printed in the Sun defending the parents of the child. Some of them way over the top and some of the journalists who work there have gone above and beyond what would be considered normal behaviour in doing so.

Why?
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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Maive on Fri Aug 02 2013, 01:24

Papers can't print the "real stuff" because they would be pursued.. They can't print anything before arrests, trial, etc..

So imo there is a common agreement amongst the Press to not print stuff from the PJ Files...... for now :)

BUT they are watching.. closely big grin 

Never forget that the Press is heartless, it's all about money, friendship has nothing to do with that titter titter titter

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Who?What?Where? on Fri Aug 02 2013, 02:08

Paper's cannot print the real stuff, because they are prohibited by prominent politcian's.

People know, that prominent politician's lie through their teeth, while wearing a fake smile.

People know that media baron's lie through their teeth, while wearing a fake smile.

Seriously, what is the point?

It is fatally flawed. Just tell the truth.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by aiyoyo on Fri Aug 02 2013, 05:43

littlepixie wrote:I have followed this case from more or less day one. There is one thing that I have never understood and I wonder if anyone might be able to shed some light on this as it bugs me.

I may have seen only the one version of the Eddie & Keela video where they alert to cadaver and blood (there may be others) but on the video is slapped "The Sun" as in the Sun Newspaper.
It was also the editor of the Sun Rebekah Brookes who lent on (almost threatened) David Cameron to open the review into the case that is ongoing now.

The Sun video of the cadaver and blood dogs is damning as it indicates that a dead body was in the same apartment that the child had disappeared from. I presume that the Sun would have drawn the same conclusion as anyone else after seeing that video, that somebody dead and bleeding had been in there at some stage.

MANY, many stories have been printed in the Sun defending the parents of the child. Some of them way over the top and some of the journalists who work there have gone above and beyond what would be considered normal behaviour in doing so.

Why?

Truth is secondary to selling Papers.  There is a time for everything.  
And the time back then was to avoid being sued, better to sensaltionalise, and what better than to court the couple to give them exclusives and watch their profit soars.

Just wait till the shit hits the fan they will still be around to vilify the mccanns.  They Sun will then naturally already have the exclusive to say the Mccanns fooled them all the while and were adept at it, where all their recorded private meetings and conversations with the mccanns will be pulled out to support headlines, again to sell paper.

To put the pair on the pedestal waiting for the right time to condemn them later for all their vile act of lies and deceit is probably good strategy for profit margin.

In a nutshell, it's what sells best at a particular time is what counts.
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Post by marconi on Fri Aug 02 2013, 07:30

Maive wrote:Papers can't print the "real stuff" because they would be pursued.. They can't print anything before arrests, trial, etc..

So imo there is a common agreement amongst the Press to not print stuff from the PJ Files...... for now :)

BUT they are watching.. closely big grin 

Never forget that the Press is heartless, it's all about money, friendship has nothing to do with that titter titter titter
Maive, you are deadly right.  Besides Carter Ruck around the corner.
There will be revenge of the media, they were gagged for years and years.
The media are more powerful than any politician. They make, they break. 
Murdoch concern made the MCanns and they will be pleased to break them soon.
They are only waiting for their turn
In this life we have to carefully chose our enemies.  Not everyone is suitable to be one.
 
By the way, I am still impressed with Jim Gamble's words on  Panorama Australia, where he advise the police to look around, and try to find the real perpetrator. I have the feeling that Gamble goes beyond Kate.If I am right, who could  the other one  be?  Gerry? Payne?  or am I wrong?  The fact thet Payne was the only one with a monitor and that he was also the only one who didn't check on any child is also suspicious.

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Post by marconi on Fri Aug 02 2013, 09:54

How come that Williams Thomas (Daily Star) knows that there is tension between the PJ and the Yard?
None of both police would comment on that.

I don't believe it.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by PeterMac on Fri Aug 02 2013, 10:18

marconi wrote:
Never forget that the Press is heartless, it's all about money, friendship has nothing to do with that
Maive, you are deadly right.  Besides Carter Ruck around the corner.
There will be revenge of the media, they were gagged for years and years.
The media are more powerful than any politician. They make, they break. 
Murdoch concern made the MCanns and they will be pleased to break them soon.
They are only waiting for their turn
In this life we have to carefully chose our enemies.  Not everyone is suitable to be one.
 


HEADLINE  ?

'WE WUZ ROBBED"

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Post by jeanmonroe on Fri Aug 02 2013, 13:24

HEADLINE:

SUN columnist, Lorraine Kelly :

"EXCLUSIVE"

THEY DIDN'T FOOL ME!

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Post by PeterMac on Fri Aug 02 2013, 14:16

jeanmonroe wrote:HEADLINE:
SUN columnist, Lorraine Kelly :
"EXCLUSIVE"
THEY DIDN'T FOOL ME!

Express, Independent, Star, Mail, Times, i, Mirror, Herald, Scotsman, Sunday - Times, Guardian, Daily record, Sky . . . .

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Tony Bennett on Fri Aug 02 2013, 14:46

marconi wrote:How come that [Mark] Williams-Thomas (Daily Star) knows that there is tension between the PJ and the Yard?

None of both police would comment on that.

I don't believe it.
First, re Mark Williams-Thomas.

Point 1 - He knows almost everything there is to know about everything.

Point 2 - Except that he never tells us why he left the police force (Surrey) after only serving for a few years as a humble Detective Constable.

Point 3 - He is on TV so regularly commenting on sexual abuse that he is close to becoming the nation's expert on the subject, just as Ray Wyre was.

Point 4 - Ray Wyre [deceased] wasn't the whiter-than-white character selflessly trying to help sex offenders that he cracked himself up to be.

Point 5 - Williams-Thomas has clearly been chosen by the Met Police to receive selective leaks about the progress of the Savile investigations, details of celebs being arrested etc.  IMO this is an unhealthy and possibly corrupt relationship.

But enough about MWT.

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Now to turn to the subject of this much-vaunted, much-heralded new phase of co-operation between the British police and the Portuguese police.

Here are the two official quotes from Portugal that I have seen so far (if there are others, please would someone post them up):

1. A Portuguese government spokesman told AFP:  “"We confirm we have received a request for judiciary assistance from the British authorities... which has been accepted. The judicial authorities or the British police cannot act alone on Portuguese soil. They can only assist the Portuguese authorities in carrying out their request."

2. The Portuguese Attorney-General’s Office said: “There is currently no timetable for when and how we will proceed. The British authorities cannot carry out interviews or make inquiries in Portugal without being accompanied by public prosecutors”.



What the British press and even some on this forum seem to have forgotten is that this will not be a co-operation between the British Police and the Portuguese Police but a co-operation (if indeed there is going to be any) between the Brtish Police and the Portuguese Judicial Authorities, i.e. the Portuguese Attormey-General.

In Britain, the police investigate crimes.

In Portugal, the judicial authorities commission the police to investigate crimes.

Therein lies a huge difference.

This is how I expect things to go:

AR = Andy Redwood
PAG = Portuguese Attorney-General
C = Clerk in PAG's office

Tel call AR to PAG

C Hallo
AR It's DCI Redwood here, Met Police. Can I speak to PAG?
C No, he's attending a conference, he'll be back next week

Next week Tel call AR to PAG

C Hallo
AR It's DCI Redwood here, Met Police. Can I speak to PAG?
C No, he's busy.
AR Can I leave a message?
C OK
AR Tell him I need to interview 4 Portuguese suspects, er, I mean persons of interest, ASAP
C I'll tell him

Following week

C Hallo
AR It's DCI Redwood here, Met Police. Can I speak to PAG? He hasn't returned my messages
C I'll see if he's available
PAG What is it?
AR Well, um, I need to talk to 4 Portuguese citizens whom we suspect, er, whom we think may know something about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
PAG Who are they?
AR:  AB, CD, EF, GH.
PAG Where do they live?
AR  Er, we think we know where EF lives, but maybe your police offricers could help us find the other three?
PAG Are you prepared to pay for our time in tracing these people?
AR I'll get back to you on that
PAG And you realise that if you want to talk to any of these people, I'll need your reasons in writing
AR OK
PAG And that one of my senior staff will need to accompany your officers on every visit?
AR Yes, I'm aware of that
PAG And is your government going to pay for my officers' time in doing this?
AR Er, well, I'll get back to you on that one as well
PAG And when translators are required for these interviews, who will be funding that?
AR Can you help us with that?
PAG No - look, I'm pretty busy right now, just confirm in wirting that you'll meet all our expenses within 7 days of submitting a claim and then I'll ring you back
AR Er...
Sound of dialling tone ............................


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Is Mark Williams-Thomas right about there being 'tension' between the British Police and the Portuguese Judicial Authorities?

I think it's highly likely.

Even MWT can be right sometimes.

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 02 2013, 14:56

Looks a bit like pay-back-time, after Home Office [Jacqui Smith] stalled the rogatory interviews in 2007 ...
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Post by marconi on Fri Aug 02 2013, 15:45

Holy saints, I just read Jornal de Noticias on McCann Files. I just can't believe it. I thought that the Yard was coming up with something new, new witnesses, new evidences and now it appears to be old stuf, worthless.
 
I agree with the PJ.  Irritating, very irritating.
Never mind, let the McCanns live freely,  I don't care anymore.
 
Millions to arrive nowhere!!!!!!!!!!
 
I pray this will not be solved and that the McCanns will continue being a pain in the British government's ass.

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 02 2013, 16:12

Tony Bennett wrote:
marconi wrote:How come that [Mark] Williams-Thomas (Daily Star) knows that there is tension between the PJ and the Yard?

None of both police would comment on that.

I don't believe it.
First, re Mark Williams-Thomas.

Point 1 - He knows almost everything there is to know about everything.

Point 2 - Except that he never tells us why he left the police force (Surrey) after only serving for a few years as a humble Detective Constable.

Point 3 - He is on TV so regularly commenting on sexual abuse that he is close to becoming the nation's expert on the subject, just as Ray Wyre was.

Point 4 - Ray Wyre [deceased] wasn't the whiter-than-white character selflessly trying to help sex offenders that he cracked himself up to be.

Point 5 - Williams-Thomas has clearly been chosen by the Met Police to receive selective leaks about the progress of the Savile investigations, details of celebs being arrested etc.  IMO this is an unhealthy and possibly corrupt relationship.

But enough about MWT.

++++++++++++++++++++++

Now to turn to the subject of this much-vaunted, much-heralded new phase of co-operation between the British police and the Portuguese police.

Here are the two official quotes from Portugal that I have seen so far (if there are others, please would someone post them up):

1. A Portuguese government spokesman told AFP:  “"We confirm we have received a request for judiciary assistance from the British authorities... which has been accepted. The judicial authorities or the British police cannot act alone on Portuguese soil. They can only assist the Portuguese authorities in carrying out their request."

2. The Portuguese Attorney-General’s Office said: “There is currently no timetable for when and how we will proceed. The British authorities cannot carry out interviews or make inquiries in Portugal without being accompanied by public prosecutors”.



What the British press and even some on this forum seem to have forgotten is that this will not be a co-operation between the British Police and the Portuguese Police but a co-operation (if indeed there is going to be any) between the Brtish Police and the Portuguese Judicial Authorities, i.e. the Portuguese Attormey-General.

In Britain, the police investigate crimes.

In Portugal, the judicial authorities commission the police to investigate crimes.

Therein lies a huge difference.

This is how I expect things to go:

AR = Andy Redwood
PAG = Portuguese Attorney-General
C = Clerk in PAG's office

Tel call AR to PAG

C Hallo
AR It's DCI Redwood here, Met Police. Can I speak to PAG?
C No, he's attending a conference, he'll be back next week

Next week Tel call AR to PAG

C Hallo
AR It's DCI Redwood here, Met Police. Can I speak to PAG?
C No, he's busy.
AR Can I leave a message?
C OK
AR Tell him I need to interview 4 Portuguese suspects, er, I mean persons of interest, ASAP
C I'll tell him

Following week

C Hallo
AR It's DCI Redwood here, Met Police. Can I speak to PAG? He hasn't returned my messages
C I'll see if he's available
PAG What is it?
AR Well, um, I need to talk to 4 Portuguese citizens whom we suspect, er, whom we think may know something about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
PAG Who are they?
AR:  AB, CD, EF, GH.
PAG Where do they live?
AR  Er, we think we know where EF lives, but maybe your police offricers could help us find the other three?
PAG Are you prepared to pay for our time in tracing these people?
AR I'll get back to you on that
PAG And you realise that if you want to talk to any of these people, I'll need your reasons in writing
AR OK
PAG And that one of my senior staff will need to accompany your officers on every visit?
AR Yes, I'm aware of that
PAG And is your government going to pay for my officers' time in doing this?
AR Er, well, I'll get back to you on that one as well
PAG And when translators are required for these interviews, who will be funding that?
AR Can you help us with that?
PAG No - look, I'm pretty busy right now, just confirm in wirting that you'll meet all our expenses within 7 days of submitting a claim and then I'll ring you back
AR Er...
Sound of dialling tone ............................


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Is Mark Williams-Thomas right about there being 'tension' between the British Police and the Portuguese Judicial Authorities?

I think it's highly likely.

Even MWT can be right sometimes.
Good afternoon Mr Bennett,

Spot on. Hilarious.

Like an unsuspecting Dinosaur sinking into a mudpit.

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Post by lj on Fri Aug 02 2013, 19:25

It is my firm believe that on the British side it is all set up to be unacceptable for the Portuguese. Can you imagine Andy Pandy calling that Mr G McCann suddenly remembers that he saw a man scurrying away when he was talking with what's his name. BTW I have no doubt the other 38 leads are from the same quality. Now can you please investigate that lead, thoroughly, until we say we're convinced it leads to nothing.

Yes of course we will submit your expenses. We do that very throroughly by hand, on paper, ask Mr Bennet how well that works.

The whole exercise is set up to fail in a way they can blame Portugal for that. They knew the moment they started looking through the police files their was no abductor, not in the classical sense at least. This way they have an excuse for their time wasted, nonsense interviews, money thrown down the drain, and the pathetic parents stay out of range.



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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 02 2013, 19:40

Against all odds [here] I remain confident that both SY and PJ will try and hopefully solve the case.
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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by aiyoyo on Sat Aug 03 2013, 04:35

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The whole exercise is set up to fail in a way they can blame Portugal for that.


By who? the Mccanns? Nothing new there then.

By the Police? And risk bringing the country into a row with Portugal? Personally I dont think that will happen.

Would the Home Office dare criticise the Portugal Authorities; and render themselves stupid?
No one points a gun at Theresa May to force her to continue the funding of the Review.
The decision must have been aken with good reason.

To white wash you don't need a valid reason, no reason would be valid anyway.



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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by tigger on Sat Aug 03 2013, 05:43

aiyoyo wrote:
lj wrote:
The whole exercise is set up to fail in a way they can blame Portugal for that.


By who?  the Mccanns?  Nothing new there then.

By the Police? And risk bringing the country into a row with Portugal?  Personally I dont think that will happen.

Would the Home Office dare criticise the Portugal Authorities; and render themselves stupid?
No one points a gun at Theresa May to force her to continue the funding of the Review.
The decision must have been aken with good reason.  

To white wash you don't need a valid reason, no reason would be valid anyway.



In which case, why stop looking then for an indeterminate length of time whilst a highly publicised review is going on? 
Over two years during which time Maddie - according to the 'crack team' of detectives they laid off when the review started - she was most likely in a hellish liar.

But that could wait - so far I've seen nothing that even looks like a genuine investigation from SY.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by jeanmonroe on Sat Aug 03 2013, 12:31

Châtelaine wrote:Against all odds [here] I remain confident that both SY and PJ will try and hopefully solve the case.

Haven't the PJ, in their mind, already 'solved' the case?

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