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Post by Guest 18.07.14 20:21

That certainly is what it appears to say - a mistake, maybe?
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Post by ultimaThule 18.07.14 20:54

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Why would the gate to Rothley Towers need to be covered up?

I can think of plenty of things that do need covering up but the gate is innocent!

The clip should carry the disclaimer 'no gates have been harmed in the making of this news item but the same can't be said of the innocent 3 year old without whom the world would not have been subjected to the sight of her parents, her other relatives, and the limited company's spinmerchant, hamming it up for the camera'.



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Post by Hicks 18.07.14 21:43

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That certainly is what it appears to say - a mistake, maybe?

Or maybe not!

The Manager was convinced that the McCann's were there in the restaurant on the 3rd May, so much that he handed over the tape to prove it. He states that GM danced with Madeleine on the sand.

Lets look at this in more depth.

Everything we are told about the 3rd may is designed to have us believe that Madeleine is alive and well,
such as the crying story and the tea stain.
KM also has to put forward a story that she was bitten by a dog whilst running to give the illusion that she was not on the beach at the Parisio. I believe that everything we are told about the 3rd, by the whole group, is one big lie. Imo madeleine sadly died late on the Tuesday night/ early Wednesday morning.

On the 3rd the routine changes, according to the McC's. They put Madeleine in the crèche...err... no they don't. GM signs in another child pretending to be his child. See crèche sheet. Possibly there were rows on this day about what to do. Kate and her bruised wrists are testament that there was some kind of conflict, physical conflict.
Did GM say he could sort it, so no need to confess?  All those frantic phone calls early Wednesday morning, was this getting help, I suggest that Clarence Mitchell was involved from this moment.

Back to the Parisio beach and Restaurant, I believe that the McCann's were there on the beach, if you study the black and white photo's it could be KM that you see in a couple of the pictures on the beach, possibly the twins also. Perhaps they were there waiting for CM. Perhaps CM flew out to PDL on the 3rd to assist in the cover up. Perhaps the plan was hatched there in the Parisio for Thursday night to be the time of the faked abduction. 

Look at the Parisio beach photo's in the McCannfiles. Sorry can't seem to upload them. Either fourth or fifth one down looks like KM. another could have the twins.

Perhaps the Manager was correct and the McCann's were really there, waiting for CM, though Madeleine was not. It could be that GM was dancing with Ella O'Brien instead as she could be taken for Madeleine.

The McCann's and their friends had to appear neglectful on Thursday night to make the plan work. I think that the twins were in another apartment being looked after. They were hastily returned after the alarm, hence, no sheets on the mattresses. The other give away is the position they slept in, on their fronts, both in the exact same position. Possibly sedated.
 
Another thought, remember the British couple who saw a black package being loaded onto a jetski very early the next day? It went out to a grey 'official looking boat'.
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1580645/Madeleine-McCann-Bundle-smuggled-on-jetski.html.

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Post by missbeetle 18.07.14 22:05

Hey Hicks -

The Telegraph article you cited - where the couple were over in PdL visiting relatives -

I looked up Patrick Matthews - it would seem he is a healer from Exeter and ex-professional sportsman.
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Although he now seems to live in Biarritz as the director of a company called EQ-Love...

Interesting, though - that Devon connection again.

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Post by Hicks 18.07.14 22:10

missbeetle wrote:Hey Hicks -

The Telegraph article you cited - where the couple were over in PdL visiting relatives -

I looked up Patrick Matthews - it would seem he is a healer from Exeter and ex-professional sportsman.
Clarence - Page 3 <a href=Clarence - Page 3 Pm_zps3d906556
Although he now seems to live in Biarritz as the director of a company called EQ-Love...

Interesting, though - that Devon connection again.
Weird.......all roads lead to Devon!

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Post by petunia 18.07.14 22:45

The couple who did not want to be named.Hello spokesman for Kate and Gerry
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Post by Justformaddie 18.07.14 23:02

Wouldn't that be terrible if cm was there on the 3rd? It deffo says cm! what NFWTD, what happened to Kirsten? Lol!

Could that 2-3ft black bundle be something being shipped back to uk?
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Post by Guest 18.07.14 23:16

Just remember this:

When your child goes missing, what you need most of all is a Media Monitoring Unit.

Yep.
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Post by Doug D 19.07.14 8:54

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Hicks,
 
I assume this is the photo you are looking at, referring to the person standing on the beach below the left hand umbrella.
 
This person is still in shot at 17.46.07.
The men (exc. GM) ‘leave for tennis’ at 18.13.53.
DW & FP are still seated at 18.36.08, with RO & JT looking as though they are preparing to leave.
 
As with all things McCann, it would be interesting to see the whole sequence of photos that presumably the PJ had, right up to DW & FP actually leaving, together with verification of the time stamps from the camera.
 
Was ‘mystery person’ anything to do with the party?
Could it have been KM?
Was GM &/or twins anywhere in site at any time?
Any evidence of anyone waving to KM ‘on her run’?
What time did DW & FP leave, how long does it take to wander back with buggies & how does it tie up with her ‘bathing kids’ timeline?
 
 http://www.mccannfiles.com/id213.html
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Post by Hicks 19.07.14 9:06

Doug D wrote:Clarence - Page 3 Tapas0305075

 
Hicks,
 
I assume this is the photo you are looking at, referring to the person standing on the beach below the left hand umbrella.
 
This person is still in shot at 17.46.07.
The men (exc. GM) ‘leave for tennis’ at 18.13.53.
DW & FP are still seated at 18.36.08, with RO & JT looking as though they are preparing to leave.
 
As with all things McCann, it would be interesting to see the whole sequence of photos that presumably the PJ had, right up to DW & FP actually leaving, together with verification of the time stamps from the camera.
 
Was ‘mystery person’ anything to do with the party?
Could it have been KM?
Was GM &/or twins anywhere in site at any time?
Any evidence of anyone waving to KM ‘on her run’?
What time did DW & FP leave, how long does it take to wander back with buggies & how does it tie up with her ‘bathing kids’ timeline?
 
 http://www.mccannfiles.com/id213.html
Hi Doug D, in this photo it looks like the same person, a female that has Kate's build. Looks like the person could be using a mobile, texting perhaps. I am convinced that it is KM. 

http://www.mccannfiles.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Tapas0305077.jpg&target=tlx_picl1jg.

Perhaps the McCann's had to stay on the beach to meet CM otherwise they would have be caught on film.

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Post by PeterMac 19.07.14 10:12

The vital thing about the Paraiso 'stuff' is that it takes the Tapas group away from the confines of the pool and apartment for a long time.
Ditto Kate.
Which means that NO ONE in the group except Gerry knows what he was doing during the afternoon.
He tells us he was not playing tennis - Ruptured Achilles Tendon - normal recovery four to six months -
but thanks to the intervention of St Katerine of the Multiple Immaculate Conceptions  in his case it was a couple of hours.
So where was he, and what was he doing ?
And why then did he make so much of playing tennis the rest of the afternoon and evening.
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Post by unchained melody 19.07.14 11:51

PeterMac wrote:The vital thing about the Paraiso 'stuff' is that it takes the Tapas group away from the confines of the pool and apartment for a long time.
Ditto Kate.
Which means that NO ONE in the group except Gerry knows what he was doing during the afternoon.
He tells us he was not playing tennis - Ruptured Achilles Tendon - normal recovery four to six months -
but thanks to the intervention of St Katerine of the Multiple Immaculate Conceptions  in his case it was a couple of hours.
So where was he, and what was he doing ?
And why then did he make so much of playing tennis the rest of the afternoon and evening.

Maybe he was "playing" tennis somewhere else? With his kitbag along with him
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Post by LittleMissy 19.07.14 14:43

*eyes widen at the possibilities* Caniving Clarence seems to be on hand earlier than first thought, if I am reading & understanding correctly.
There was a section of the infamous 'book of truth' something bout, K jogging past parisimo (something like that), something like, K wondered whether Madelaine had felt left out being left at creche after Ella (think it was Ella) had been collected early for the rest of the tapas cronies & kids visit to beach/Parisimo. Hmmmm Now what i wondered when i came across this 'group outing excluding Mccans & their offspring' was had the 'accident' happened already, & were the tapas cronies in fact meeting to decide what/whether they were going to support Mcs in the events that were to follow ?? Sorry for the lack of reference given, to be honest I cannot remember exactly where I read it or the exact name of restaurant. Sorry, this post be bordering on incoherant :/
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Clarence - Page 3 <a href=Clarence - Page 3 Cla_zps4455a96e"
(photograph from press conference, 19th February 2010)

Clarence Mitchell, eh?

Clarence Eden Mitchell, former Head Boy at Friern Barnet School, Finchley.

At first glance you might think him a mere crumpled grey ghost in the corner...

But - no! There's more to Clarence.

He's got a foxy-looking blonde lady in a raincoat beside him.

He's giving that young, dark-haired journalist fellow a most sardonic look.

He's got the biggest shadow of anyone in that room.

I bet nobody dares peek under that table...

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Post by PeterMac 19.07.14 23:20

unchained melody wrote:
PeterMac wrote:The vital thing about the Paraiso 'stuff' is that it takes the Tapas group away from the confines of the pool and apartment for a long time.
Ditto Kate.
Which means that NO ONE in the group except Gerry knows what he was doing during the afternoon.
He tells us he was not playing tennis - Ruptured Achilles Tendon - normal recovery four to six months -
but thanks to the intervention of St Katerine of the Multiple Immaculate Conceptions  in his case it was a couple of hours.
So where was he, and what was he doing ?
And why then did he make so much of playing tennis the rest of the afternoon and evening.

Maybe he was "playing" tennis somewhere else? With his kitbag along with him
It is possible to purport a theory that he was certainly somewhere else, with the tennis bag ,the one on the shelf, diligently photographed by the PJ and then "whooshed" by Mitchell.
The one which was in exactly the location alerted to by the cadaver dog a couple of months later, - - - by pure McCoincidence of course. . .
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Post by Gaggzy 20.07.14 0:39

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Aha. So THIS is what the head of a Media Monitoring Unit does.

He stands there ... Monitoring the Media.

Hmm. I bet he was a Milk Monitor when he was in Primary school.

And if he was a lizard, he'd probably be a Monitor Lizard.

As for Kate and Gerry, poor Gerry is suffering from that itchy leg he always seems to get during interviews. It takes two of them to scratch the hell out of it under the table.

Unless Kate is doing some Monitoring of her own!
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Post by Guest 20.07.14 6:45

PeterMac wrote:
unchained melody wrote:
PeterMac wrote:The vital thing about the Paraiso 'stuff' is that it takes the Tapas group away from the confines of the pool and apartment for a long time.
Ditto Kate.
Which means that NO ONE in the group except Gerry knows what he was doing during the afternoon.
He tells us he was not playing tennis - Ruptured Achilles Tendon - normal recovery four to six months -
but thanks to the intervention of St Katerine of the Multiple Immaculate Conceptions  in his case it was a couple of hours.
So where was he, and what was he doing ?
And why then did he make so much of playing tennis the rest of the afternoon and evening.

Maybe he was "playing" tennis somewhere else? With his kitbag along with him
It is possible to purport a theory that he was certainly somewhere else, with the tennis bag ,the one on the shelf, diligently photographed by the PJ and then "whooshed" by Mitchell.
The one which was in exactly the location alerted to by the cadaver dog a couple of months later
,  - - - by pure McCoincidence of course. . .

For those who haven't seen this yet:

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Post by tigger 20.07.14 7:15

missbeetle wrote:Clarence - Page 3 <a href=Clarence - Page 3 Cla_zps4455a96e"
(photograph from press conference, 19th February 2010)

Clarence Mitchell, eh?

Clarence Eden Mitchell, former Head Boy at Friern Barnet School, Finchley.

At first glance you might think him a mere crumpled grey ghost in the corner...

But - no! There's more to Clarence.

He's got a foxy-looking blonde lady in a raincoat beside him.

He's giving that young, dark-haired journalist fellow a most sardonic look.

He's got the biggest shadow of anyone in that room.

I bet nobody dares peek under that table...

the McCanns don't appear to have a shadow at all, I thought that was only vampires?  eek 

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Post by Justformaddie 31.07.14 18:08

Mitchell = left a job so he could assist the mccanns, not knowing she could've been found in that next second?
Although once said, unless maddie is found in the next week, and he knew that was not going to happen?
Also said, if people thought maddie was dead, then k&g would say, prove it!
And much more, strange man IMO 

May not be exact words.

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Post by Doug D 04.08.14 7:40

https://twitter.com/mitch_1uk
 
Still on there since 31st July:
 
‘Clarence Mitchell followed Carol Ramsden, Tom Edgington, W. Bro. Gerry Mc€ann and 15 others’
 
I would have thought his Media Monitoring Unit would have ‘monitored’ everyone before he ‘followed’ them, or is this his new liberal approach to befriend the opposition?
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Post by Naz_Nomad 04.08.14 12:36

Doug D wrote:https://twitter.com/mitch_1uk
 
Still on there since 31st July:
 
‘Clarence Mitchell followed Carol Ramsden, Tom Edgington, W. Bro. Gerry Mc€ann and 15 others’
 
I would have thought his Media Monitoring Unit would have ‘monitored’ everyone before he ‘followed’ them, or is this his new liberal approach to befriend the opposition?

What a revolting specimen Mitchell is.  Trying to make out that Brighton is "his" town.  I doubt he's spent more than a few hours here since being made PPC for Kemptown.

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Post by Liz Eagles 04.08.14 15:22

Someone's rattled Clazza's cage. See his August 3rd tweet about being straight and being criticized for celebrating B&H's cultural diversity.

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aquila wrote:Someone's rattled Clazza's cage. See his August 3rd tweet about being straight and being criticized for celebrating B&H's cultural diversity.

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Clarence - Page 3 JpHQZKuI_normal Clarence Mitchell @mitch_1uk  ·  Aug 1
Real shame @peterkyle @BrightonIndy feels my sexuality an issue dur Pride So being straight I cant celeb city's grt diversity? #Labcheapshot

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Post by tasprin 04.08.14 15:51

The Argus
Labour slates ‘white, 50-plus male Tories’ fighting general election seats in Brighton and Hove
Sunday 3rd August 2014

LABOUR has hit out at the selection of three “white, fifty-something males” as Conservative candidates to contest Parliamentary seats in Brighton and Hove next May.

Former police chief and current Brighton and Hove city councillor Graham Cox was selected by the Conservatives as their candidate for Hove on Wednesday night, joining counterpart Clarence Mitchell for Brighton Pavilion along with Simon Kirby defending his Brighton Kemptown seat.

Warren Morgan, the Labour and Co-operative leader on Brighton and Hove City Council, said: “The selection of three straight, white, fifty-something males as Tory parliamentary candidates in the city contrasts with Labour’s choice of Purna Sen, Nancy Platts and Peter Kyle, who will better represent our diverse and modern city in the House of Commons.”

Coun[cillor] Cox said: “I was a little bit disappointed at Labour’s response but that’s politics.”

He said Labour did not undertand that diversity was not just about gender, race and sexuality but also about class.

“We increasingly hear from working class residents who no longer feel represented in Brighton and Hove,” he said.
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Post by Liz Eagles 04.08.14 15:53

BlackCatBoogie wrote:
aquila wrote:Someone's rattled Clazza's cage. See his August 3rd tweet about being straight and being criticized for celebrating B&H's cultural diversity.

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I think this is the one you mean aquila

Clarence - Page 3 JpHQZKuI_normal  Clarence Mitchell  @mitch_1uk    ·     Aug 1    
Real shame @peterkyle @BrightonIndy feels my sexuality an issue dur Pride So being straight I cant celeb city's grt diversity? #Labcheapshot

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thank you BCB, yep that's the one.
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