The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann™
Welcome to 'The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann' forum 🌹

Please log in, or register to view all the forums, then settle in and help us get to the truth about what really happened to Madeleine Beth McCann.

Please note that when you register your username must be different from your email address!

IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by loopzdaloop on 17.05.13 19:27

My thread is basically the title of this topic!

IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that Carter Ruck wanted to get of him?
and hopefully a public apology!

avatar
loopzdaloop

Posts : 365
Reputation : 52
Join date : 2013-02-01

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 19:44

That's something that I'd wondered myself. We can only wait and see what develops I think.........
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by plebgate on 17.05.13 21:42

I hope he would but I don't think they are going to be arrested any time soon, so hope TB sits on his hands whilst all these headlines are coming out.

plebgate

Posts : 6124
Reputation : 1795
Join date : 2013-02-01

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by PeterMac on 17.05.13 22:54

Short answer - NO.
TB is gagged for all time for an alleged breach of a promise he made to the High Court
The facts of what the court considers an insignificant matter, the disappearance and probably death of a 3 year old girl, do not concern the court.
They are interested only in how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Facts are nasty things.
People are not much better
Best to ignore them and indulge in the splendour and majesty of the LAW

____________________

avatar
PeterMac
Investigator

Posts : 10170
Reputation : 174
Join date : 2010-12-06

View user profile http://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Guest on 18.05.13 9:38

@PeterMac wrote:Short answer - NO.
TB is gagged for all time for an alleged breach of a promise he made to the High Court
The facts of what the court considers an insignificant matter, the disappearance and probably death of a 3 year old girl, do not concern the court.
They are interested only in how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Facts are nasty things.
People are not much better
Best to ignore them and indulge in the splendour and majesty of the LAW

Could he never, ever appeal against the decision, Human Rights and all that?
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by PeterMac on 18.05.13 9:45

I think the agreement was so stitched up that if he ever raises it again he becomes immediately liable for 300,000 in costs. Just for starters.
I'll read the judgement again, but that was my initial interpretation.
And even more worrying is that he cannot come onto this site and explain, since to do so would risk his having to say "I am not allowed to state XThey are DESPERATE to keep him silent.
Why ?
What did he say or write or think that was so dangerous ?

____________________

avatar
PeterMac
Investigator

Posts : 10170
Reputation : 174
Join date : 2010-12-06

View user profile http://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Guest on 18.05.13 9:48

That is indeed a mystery (if I may be so bold as to use that word) Peter. The questions he raised were no different as far as I can see from those raised by many other people.
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Guest on 18.05.13 9:49

Being the eternal optimist, I wonder if e.g. Judge Tugendhat wouldn't invite him to ask the Court to relieve him from his undertakings ... As a person of law, he must have understood very well that TB was cleverly guided to a sidepath, where he couldn't win, as the "material truth" was not under question there.
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by loopzdaloop on 19.05.13 18:27

I wondered where this thread disappeared to. I lost it!

It would be sincere shame that if the house of cards came crashing down this issue's with relation to the court and the gagging didn't automatically come down with it! could you imagine if the Mccann's were jailed and then Tony was still not allowed to speak in lieu of the 300,000 ?
avatar
loopzdaloop

Posts : 365
Reputation : 52
Join date : 2013-02-01

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Cristobell on 19.05.13 18:33

@PeterMac wrote:I think the agreement was so stitched up that if he ever raises it again he becomes immediately liable for 300,000 in costs. Just for starters.
I'll read the judgement again, but that was my initial interpretation.
And even more worrying is that he cannot come onto this site and explain, since to do so would risk his having to say "I am not allowed to state XThey are DESPERATE to keep him silent.
Why ?
What did he say or write or think that was so dangerous ?




That is truly ridiculous and wouldn't sound out of place in North Korea.

Cristobell

Posts : 2436
Reputation : 4
Join date : 2011-10-12

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by sallypelt on 19.05.13 18:38

@PeterMac wrote:Short answer - NO.
TB is gagged for all time for an alleged breach of a promise he made to the High Court
The facts of what the court considers an insignificant matter, the disappearance and probably death of a 3 year old girl, do not concern the court.
They are interested only in how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Facts are nasty things.
People are not much better
Best to ignore them and indulge in the splendour and majesty of the LAW
They tried gagging the IRA too, but the IRA got around it, and it became so ridiculous, they had to lift it. And before anyone suggests that I am condoning the IRA by stating this fact, I am saying now, that I neither condoned nor condemned them. I am merely stating what happened.

sallypelt

Posts : 3652
Reputation : 810
Join date : 2012-11-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by PeterMac on 19.05.13 19:20

You may be falling into the trap of thinking that "The Law" and "Justice" are synonyms !
Justice demands that the truth be told. "Fiat justitia ruat caelum" "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."
The Law says that the truth may not be told. "Fac tui juris per cecum" (I forbear to translate !)

____________________

avatar
PeterMac
Investigator

Posts : 10170
Reputation : 174
Join date : 2010-12-06

View user profile http://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by aiyoyo on 19.05.13 20:07

When the truth is told, the law will mandate that Mr & Mrs are incarcerated, only then will TB get justice and vindication.



avatar
aiyoyo

Posts : 9610
Reputation : 321
Join date : 2009-11-28

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by sammyc on 19.05.13 21:26

Tony Bennett will get justice. Patience is a virtue. Play the waiting game and everything's eventual.
avatar
sammyc

Posts : 237
Reputation : 91
Join date : 2011-10-06
Location : UK

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by PeterMac on 19.05.13 21:41

But under the terms of the judgment {correct me if I am wrong} even if it were conclusively proved that everything TB said was true, even if the McCanns were found guilty of all sorts of things including perjury, even if all of that happened . . .
TB will still not be able, ever, to say that they may, just may, or might, possibly, in theory, just for arguments sake, hypothetically, or just for the sake of a purely academic argument, be allowed to refer to the thoughts of the Senior Detective in the case, nor of his successor, nor of the highly skilled and qualified Police advisor from England, nor of the Assistant Chief Constable (Crime) of Leicestershire, nor of anyone else in the entire world who has actually read the evidence.

It is called English Law. And we believe it is the best in the World. Perhaps because we pay a huge amount of money for it.

____________________

avatar
PeterMac
Investigator

Posts : 10170
Reputation : 174
Join date : 2010-12-06

View user profile http://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Woofer on 19.05.13 21:47

@PeterMac wrote:But under the terms of the judgment {correct me if I am wrong} even if it were conclusively proved that everything TB said was true, even if the McCanns were found guilty of all sorts of things including perjury, even if all of that happened . . .
TB will still not be able, ever, to say that they may, just may, or might, possibly, in theory, just for arguments sake, hypothetically, or just for the sake of a purely academic argument, be allowed to refer to the thoughts of the Senior Detective in the case, nor of his successor, nor of the highly skilled and qualified Police advisor from England, nor of the Assistant Chief Constable (Crime) of Leicestershire, nor of anyone else in the entire world who has actually read the evidence.

It is called English Law. And we believe it is the best in the World. Perhaps because we pay a huge amount of money for it.

But I`m sure TB would then have a damned good case for repeal.
avatar
Woofer

Posts : 3390
Reputation : 13
Join date : 2012-02-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Guest on 20.05.13 7:31

If Tony went to live in another country say America, would he still be gagged?
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by plebgate on 20.05.13 8:08

@Woofer wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:But under the terms of the judgment {correct me if I am wrong} even if it were conclusively proved that everything TB said was true, even if the McCanns were found guilty of all sorts of things including perjury, even if all of that happened . . .
TB will still not be able, ever, to say that they may, just may, or might, possibly, in theory, just for arguments sake, hypothetically, or just for the sake of a purely academic argument, be allowed to refer to the thoughts of the Senior Detective in the case, nor of his successor, nor of the highly skilled and qualified Police advisor from England, nor of the Assistant Chief Constable (Crime) of Leicestershire, nor of anyone else in the entire world who has actually read the evidence.

It is called English Law. And we believe it is the best in the World. Perhaps because we pay a huge amount of money for it.

But I`m sure TB would then have a damned good case for repeal.

I think he would also have a damned good case for getting a lot of compensation from them.

plebgate

Posts : 6124
Reputation : 1795
Join date : 2013-02-01

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Guest on 20.05.13 8:43

If I were Tony.


If the McCanns are convicted, I'd have my photograph taken raising a glass of New Zealand white (or red or ...do they do sparkling?)


And it would be a real shame if others got hold of that photograph and sent it to the jailbirds.


I don't know about the legal ramifications of a conviction or whether the press would start a campaign but that one photo would be soooooo sweet.
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by tiny on 20.05.13 8:52

If the mccanns are convicted would Tony still have to keep mum.
avatar
tiny

Posts : 2274
Reputation : 3
Join date : 2010-02-03

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by aiyoyo on 20.05.13 8:56

@PeterMac wrote:But under the terms of the judgment {correct me if I am wrong} even if it were conclusively proved that everything TB said was true, even if the McCanns were found guilty of all sorts of things including perjury, even if all of that happened . . .
TB will still not be able, ever, to say that they may, just may, or might, possibly, in theory, just for arguments sake, hypothetically, or just for the sake of a purely academic argument, be allowed to refer to the thoughts of the Senior Detective in the case, nor of his successor, nor of the highly skilled and qualified Police advisor from England, nor of the Assistant Chief Constable (Crime) of Leicestershire, nor of anyone else in the entire world who has actually read the evidence.

It is called English Law. And we believe it is the best in the World. Perhaps because we pay a huge amount of money for it.

Under the so called stupid English Law, the terms of judgement do meanTB is indeed gagged for life.
But if the infamous couple were incarcerated for multiple crimes, then there is good reason to appeal against the judgement because technically the judgement is rendered null and void by the Truth of the matter; and the Mccanns powerless to oppose to it. By then they would be the most hatred couple in the nation and perhaps the globe.

Once Mr & Mrs got their comeuppance then there is also reason for those innocent individuals they harmed to countersue them for compensation.

When that time comes, the it wont be a pretty picture for the couple in more than one way.
avatar
aiyoyo

Posts : 9610
Reputation : 321
Join date : 2009-11-28

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Lostfridge on 20.05.13 9:36

@Cristobell wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:I think the agreement was so stitched up that if he ever raises it again he becomes immediately liable for 300,000 in costs. Just for starters.
I'll read the judgement again, but that was my initial interpretation.
And even more worrying is that he cannot come onto this site and explain, since to do so would risk his having to say "I am not allowed to state XThey are DESPERATE to keep him silent.
Why ?
What did he say or write or think that was so dangerous ?




That is truly ridiculous and wouldn't sound out of place in North Korea.

Welcome to the UK of today....
avatar
Lostfridge

Posts : 149
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2013-02-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: IF: The Mccann's get arrested, charged and jailed... Will Tony get at least the money that CarterRuck wanted to get of him?

Post by Woofer on 20.05.13 10:57

@tiny wrote:If the mccanns are convicted would Tony still have to keep mum.

I believe he would Tiny as it has been set down in law. But I`m sure, given that he was right all along, Tony would eventually be able to Repeal his sentence.
avatar
Woofer

Posts : 3390
Reputation : 13
Join date : 2012-02-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum