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Post by tigger 07.06.15 10:51

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sharonl wrote:Madeleine McCann's Parents Create Missing Kids Site on YouTube

By Ellen Tumposky
08/10/2007 at 12:00 PM EDT


https://m.youtube.com/user/DontYouForgetAboutMe


This YouTube website dontyouforgetaboutme does seem to have petered out around 2011. 

As I don't know how these things workI can't see anything more recent. It started October 2007, part of the rehabilitation exercise of TM imo, but this topic lists many  of the entangled 'charities'  to do with missing children. 

I did spend some time once checking out the missing on their books. Quite a lot were shared by the various charities, a number of those listed as missing would be pensioners by now. In general it seemed there simply aren't that many really missing people.
I think MP has a list of under 500 - many of those have run away from home as was the case with the girl chosen to launch Kate's poster campaign. She was found, returned and promptly ran away again as she'd found a job and was doing fine apparently.

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Post by Tony Bennett 07.06.15 11:46

tigger wrote:I did spend some time once checking out the missing on their books. Quite a lot were shared by the various charities, a number of those listed as missing would be pensioners by now. In general it seemed there simply aren't that many really missing people.
I think we may be missing the point a little about the stated purpose of some of these groups, like, e.g. Missing People.

What they actually place great emphasis on on their website and their literature is not finding missing people (the Salvation Army Missing Persons' Bureau does this very well for example) but the 'tea and sympathy' they offer to those whose loved ones have gone missing...

...whether that be an abduction (extremely rare) or, more usually, either teenagers who have run off for shorter or longer periods, or children snatched in some kind of custody dispute. They don't call it 'tea and sympathy', they call it 'counselling and advice'.

I concede that they may well also offer some practical help and support, like 'signposting' people to other agencies. Such as: "See a solicitor" or "Contact the police". Not very arduous, really.

What has been of interest to a few of us here is their hidden purpose. They seem to have carved out a niche for themselves as the 'must-go-to' organisation for people whose loved ones have gone missing. And that seems to have led to a lot of government funding over the years. 

When you put that together with the often-flawed celebrities they have as their patrons and' ambassadors', it raises even more queries.

As I think PeterMac and others have noted, the much-heralded 500-mile bicycle ride seems to be mostly about funding more salaried staff.

Are they really needed?

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by tigger 23.06.15 11:30

PeterMac wrote:http://www.ncmec.eu/page.php?Id=45
Ernie Allen Testifies Before U.S. Congress,
Admits to Four Hundred Cases of Missing Child Fraud
Dateline: Washington, DC, 2 December 2009

Mr. Ernie Allen, President and Chief Executive Officer of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (USA) and its wholly owned affiliate, the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, dropped a bombshell today before the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission of the United States Congress.
Later in the piece is the important bit

Our concern isn't addressed, but let us courteously suspend our disbelief while we continue to parse Mr. Allen's statement. He starts making recommendations to the Tom Lantos Commission on page 5 of his testimony. The first four recommendations are vacuous generalities that can be pithly abbreviated to "everyone should do a better job". Then comes the bombshell, which we quote in full:

Finally, I believe we should amend the federal definition of ‘missing child’ that was established by the Missing Children’s Assistance Act of 1984 and codified at 42 U.S.C. §5772. In parental abduction cases, law enforcement may be hesitant to classify the child as ‘missing’ since the child does not technically fit within the current federal definition of ‘missing child’: a child whose whereabouts are unknown to the child’s legal custodian. Parental abduction cases are unique -- the left-behind parent may know the exact whereabouts of the ‘missing’ child but is unable to bring the child home. This problem can be solved by adding the description “or who was removed from the control of such individual's legal custodian in violation of law or judicial order” to the federal definition of ‘missing child.’ This not only reinforces law enforcement’s jurisdiction over these criminal cases, it also ensures that they will be given the same resources and support as non-family abductions. In addition, clarifying the definition of ‘missing child’ to include family-abducted children ensures that law enforcement will enter these cases into the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database. NCIC entry of these children is critical to ensuring that law enforcement resources are dedicated to these abductions. Approximately one-third of NCMEC’s current international abductions have not been entered into NCIC.
This official testimony appears to contain the first ever admission by any representative of the American center that a full one-third of its current cases are probable if not certain cases of missing child fraud.
Just bumping this up as this topic is full of information on various Missing People charities. In view of the recent tweets published here.

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Post by Tony Bennett 23.06.15 11:57

One of the PACT Trustees, for many years, is Adrian Oldfield (no relation to Matthew Oldfield AFAIK) - actual photo, pictured extreme left :


(On the left, photo of Oldfield: right - photoshopped to merge slightly into one of the efits)
 
PACT Committee Members and Ernest Allen - Page 4 Oldfie10

He has always reminded me of one of those two very different 'Smithman' e-fits:

PACT Committee Members and Ernest Allen - Page 4 Yyyefi10

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by lj 23.06.15 14:31

Tony Bennett wrote:One of the PACT Trustees, for many years, is Adrian Oldfield (no relation to Matthew Oldfield AFAIK) - actual photo, pictured extreme left :


(On the left, photo of Oldfield: right - photoshopped to merge slightly into one of the efits)
 
PACT Committee Members and Ernest Allen - Page 4 Oldfie10

He has always reminded me of one of those two very different 'Smithman' e-fits:

PACT Committee Members and Ernest Allen - Page 4 Yyyefi10


It sure does.

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Post by Roxyroo 19.03.17 1:00

Honeybee vid about International centre fr missing and exploited children

https://youtu.be/PVrj167PXYs

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Post by sharonl 19.03.17 21:57

Roxyroo wrote:Honeybee vid about International centre fr missing and exploited children

https://youtu.be/PVrj167PXYs


Thanks

Very interesting - well worth a watch.
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Post by second-guessed 20.03.17 3:17

sharonl wrote:
Roxyroo wrote:Honeybee vid about International centre fr missing and exploited children

https://youtu.be/PVrj167PXYs


Thanks

Very interesting - well worth a watch.
Yes, I agree too and good reading to supplement what we know on this site.  There could be some inks.
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Post by second-guessed 20.03.17 3:35

Let's call that last work 'links' ! high5
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Post by sharonl 16.04.17 18:22

Seems an appropriate time to bump this thread for anyone who is not familiar with the truth about Missing People, PACT and the McCanns association with fake kidnap fraudster Ernie Allen
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