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Post by Nina on 19.03.13 15:07

I wish the parents of Milly Dowler would remove themselves from this group as imo they are only being used as a smoke screen for hidden agendas.

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 15:40

Max Mosley: We Can 'Cut The Wires' To Websites Who Break Press Laws



Max Mosley, the former Formula One Boss turned privacy campaigner following a News of the Word sting, has told MPs he supports "cutting the wires" to internet sites who publish "the worst" pieces in breach of press regulation.

He was speaking alongside press regulation campaign group Hacked Off at Department of Culture, Media And Sport select committee into press regulation, 24 hours after MPs agreed a landmark Royal Charter.

Responding to a discussion about the impracticality of regulating sites based abroad, Mosley suggested that the British public could be banned from seeing such sites, if they routinely break British codes of conduct or publish falsehoods.

"Of course in the worst case you can, figuratively speaking, cut the wire. An order of the English court is enforceable in England. Of course nobody wants to do that," he said.

He added: "But don't pretend it's not practical, because it is."



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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/19/max-mosley_n_2906532.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
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Post by Newintown on 19.03.13 15:46

candyfloss wrote:Max Mosley: We Can 'Cut The Wires' To Websites Who Break Press Laws



Max Mosley, the former Formula One Boss turned privacy campaigner following a News of the Word sting, has told MPs he supports "cutting the wires" to internet sites who publish "the worst" pieces in breach of press regulation.

He was speaking alongside press regulation campaign group Hacked Off at Department of Culture, Media And Sport select committee into press regulation, 24 hours after MPs agreed a landmark Royal Charter.

Responding to a discussion about the impracticality of regulating sites based abroad, Mosley suggested that the British public could be banned from seeing such sites, if they routinely break British codes of conduct or publish falsehoods.

"Of course in the worst case you can, figuratively speaking, cut the wire. An order of the English court is enforceable in England. Of course nobody wants to do that," he said.

He added: "But don't pretend it's not practical, because it is."



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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/19/max-mosley_n_2906532.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/19/max-mosley_n_2906532.html?utm_hp_ref=uk[/quote[/url]]

I'm seriously beginning to wonder what country I live in, the UK or North Vietnam.

Is that the same Max Mosley who paraded around in a Nazi uniform with prostitutes on both arms?

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Post by Newintown on 19.03.13 15:54

[quote="candyfloss"]Max Mosley: We Can 'Cut The Wires' To Websites Who Break Press Laws



Max Mosley, the former Formula One Boss turned privacy campaigner following a News of the Word sting, has told MPs he supports "cutting the wires" to internet sites who publish "the worst" pieces in breach of press regulation.

He was speaking alongside press regulation campaign group Hacked Off at Department of Culture, Media And Sport select committee into press regulation, 24 hours after MPs agreed a landmark Royal Charter.

Responding to a discussion about the impracticality of regulating sites based abroad, Mosley suggested that the British public could be banned from seeing such sites, if they routinely break British codes of conduct or publish falsehoods.

"Of course in the worst case you can, figuratively speaking, cut the wire. An order of the English court is enforceable in England. Of course nobody wants to do that," he said.

He added: "But don't pretend it's not practical, because it is."



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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/19/max-mosley_n_2906532.html?utm_hp_ref=uk[/quote]

Max Mosley's friend comes to his defence over Leveson -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290519/Max-Mosleys-friend-Lords-plots-Leveson-law-door.html

Good grief, I've just had a shock which made my eyes water, I didn't know that Max Mosley was the son of Oswald Mosley, until I read that article.

This whole thing gets murkier and murkier.

ETA: I found a link to Oswald Mosley and have printed off part of the details here. I found it very, very scary to read, particularly the paragraph which I've highlighted in red. Do we really want the likes of Max Mosley dictating to citizens of the UK what we should and should not know about our elected politicians and he and his cohorts can cut off our connections to the internet and websites. What the hell gives him the right to dictate to us -

http://www.nndb.com/people/533/000114191/


By 1922, Mosley was ready to leave the Conservative Party over its Irish policy which had created the Black and Tans and supported the violent repression of Irish Nationalism. Mosley, of Irish descent himself, sat the next two years as an Independent, eventually joining Labour in 1924. Unable to retain the Harrow seat as a Labour candidate, he tried to unseat Neville Chamberlain from his constituency in Birmingham Ladywood but was defeated by a narrow margin. He spent two years refining his economic policies, and when in 1926 a Labour seat fell vacant in Smethwick he returned to Parliament.


During the Conservative majority government Mosley was close with former Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald, and when MacDonald was again named Prime Minister with the Labour victory in the general election of 1929 Mosley expected an important appointment but, having already alienated people with his notorious arrogance, he was excluded from the cabinet. In addition he was assigned the uneviable task of righting unemployment, which in 1929 was quite a snub indeed.


After the Cabinet rejected a couple of his labor proposals as too radical, he resigned in disgust and founded the proto-fascistic New Party. The fledgling party was destroyed in the general panic of the 1931 election when it lost all its seats. He then began laying the groundwork for the Union of Fascists, visiting Italy in 1931 to crib some ideas from Mussolini. Regarding the events surrounding the prominent members of the 1929 Parliament, author Kimmie Lee has commented:


Another bright light in this 1929 Parliament was Sir Oswald Mosley. He had a fatal flaw in his character, of overwhelming arrogance and an unshakable conviction that he was born to rule, which drove him on to the criminal folly of donning a black shirt and surrounding himself with a band of bullyboys, and so he became a pathetic imitation Hitler, doomed to political impotence for the rest of his life.
In 1932, Mosley founded the British Union of Fascists, and political impotence notwithstanding, its membership soon swelled to 40,000. A subsection of these card-carrying fascists formed the paramilitary members of the party that Mosley affectionately called "blackshirts", which regularly marched into Black and Jewish neighborhoods, inciting riots and street brawls. Eventually Parliament was forced to pass a law banning the use of uniforms associated with political parties.


An increasing influence at this time was his mistress Diane Mitford, who attended the first Nuremberg rally with her sister Unity. At the time Diane was married to Bryan Guinness, son of the first Baron of Moyne and heir to the Guinness fortune. Eventually, Diane left her husband and soon afterward Mosley's wife Cynthia died of peritonitis. Despite not being able to curtail his polyamorous ways, Diane married Oswald in a very secret ceremony witnessed only by Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Goebbels. Diane and her sister Unity were instrumental in convincing Hitler, who described the pair as "angels", to use Nazi money to fund Mosley's nascent Fascist movement in Britain, eventually securing as much as £50,000 from the cash-strapped jackboots. Diane became extremely fond of Hitler whom she described as possessing "mesmeric eyes".


Around this time Mosley formed an organization which sought to repatriate English African immigrants to their country of origin by providing them with an initial stipend equal to the average yearly income in their home country. This program was, not suprisingly, largely unsuccessful. During the years immediately preceding the outbreak of hostilities in WWII, Oswald sought, curiously, to lay blame for the war atmosphere at the feet of the "international Jewry." In an article published in his Fascist newsletter Action the day after the German invasion of Poland he opined:


We have said a hundred times that if the life of Britain were threatened we would fight again, but I am not offering to fight in the quarrel of Jewish finance in a war from which Britain could withdraw at any moment she likes, with her Empire intact and her people safe. I am now concerned with only two simple facts. This war is no quarrel of the British people, this war is a quarrel of Jewish finance, so to our people I give myself for the winning of peace.


Less than a year later, Mosley and his wife Diana were interned under Defence Regulation 18B which provided the British government with the power to detain indefinitely persons it saw as subversive. Later, in 1943, he was released and placed under house arrest. This was due to his ill health, as authorities feared he would die in prison and become a martyr for the fascist cause. Still there was much public discontent surrounding the event and no less a personage than Lady Mosley's own sister, author Jessica Mitford, decried the releases in a letter to the San Francisco Chronicle:


Like millions of others in the United Nations and the occupied countries, I have all my life been an opponent of the fascist ideology in whatever form it appears. Because I do not believe that family ties should be allowed to influence a person's convictions I long ago ceased to have any contact with those members of my family who have supported the fascist cause. The release of Sir Oswald and Lady Mosley is a slap in the face of anti-fascists in every country and a direct betrayal of those who have died for the cause of anti- fascism. They should be kept in jail, where they belong.


After the war ended the Mosleys were released from house arrest, and Oswald began work on converting the British Union of Fascists into the Union Movement which advocated one European Nation, and restricted immigration. The general public was perhaps even more disgusted with Mosley than before, and the Union's meetings were frequently disrupted, causing Oswald to quit England and move to France. He returned briefly following the 1958 Notting Hill race riots, hoping to capitalize on rising anti-immigration sentiment and rejoin the Parliament. He ran on a platform which included ending non-white immigration to England, but was soundly defeated. Soon after he retired from political life entirely, free to spin his increasingly radical theories from his country villa in Orsay, France, notably advocating the gift of nuclear weapons to Japan and India as a method of creating a more stable balance of nuclear power.

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Re: Press regulation talks 'break down' **UPDATE** Deal now done

Post by Guest on 19.03.13 15:55

Will Hacked Off rest on its laurels? Don't bet on it

[snipped last paragraph]

In the long term, the goal will be to push the political parties into tightening the regulations that little bit more. After all, this new system is a one-way ratchet, which can only be turned in the direction of tighter regulation. But in the meantime, every investigative journalist, everyone trying to uncover the nasty truths that rich and powerful people want to hide, will be working with a tiny little Hugh Grant on their shoulder, whispering discouragement and threats into their ear.

So well done, fellas. Can't wait to see what you do for an encore.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/robertcolvile/100207913/will-hacked-off-rest-on-their-laurels-dont-bet-on-it/
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Post by tasprin on 19.03.13 16:11

candyfloss wrote:Will Hacked Off rest on its laurels? Don't bet on it

[snipped last paragraph]

In the long term, the goal will be to push the political parties into tightening the regulations that little bit more. After all, this new system is a one-way ratchet, which can only be turned in the direction of tighter regulation. But in the meantime, every investigative journalist, everyone trying to uncover the nasty truths that rich and powerful people want to hide, will be working with a tiny little Hugh Grant on their shoulder, whispering discouragement and threats into their ear.

So well done, fellas. Can't wait to see what you do for an encore.

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It's just as likely to be a tiny little Gerry McCann on their shoulder

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 16:41

Ian Hislop here on video talking about 'hacked off' and Royal Charter....




Ian Hislop: Press regulation deal 'worrying'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21848746
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Post by Newintown on 19.03.13 17:09

@Nina wrote:I wish the parents of Milly Dowler would remove themselves from this group as imo they are only being used as a smoke screen for hidden agendas.

I feel the same way. I don’t think the Dowlers even realise that they are being used and abused. They have been through such an horrendous ordeal, that very few of us could even imagine, that I doubt they even search the internet or look up sites relating to their daughter or the discussions on the McCanns. They just take things that they are told, from the likes of Hacked Off, at face value.

There was a fleeting mention of them on the news, I think it was Sunday, saying that the Dowlers agree with Hacked Off. I wonder if anyone even went into the details of what the "Hacked Off" mission is even about. It’s infuriating that they probably have no concept of what is being done in their names, when they were the ones along with Christopher Jefferies who have suffered the most, just so some jumped up pathetic, immoral actor, or two child neglecters can hang on their coat tails to make themselves look as innocent as the Dowlers.

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Hacked Off Donors May Have Helped Support McCanns & Dowlers Against Press Intrusion

Post by ShuBob on 19.03.13 17:48

So who IS funding Hacked Off? Campaign group refuses to name its rich donors despite campaigning for transparency


  • MPs call on the group to reveal who is funding them - but they are resisting
  • Names of alleged donors are published although some deny involvement
  • Those named include Jeremy Clarkson, Lord Sainsbury and Alain de Botton
By Martin Robinson


PUBLISHED: 15:55, 19 March 2013

UPDATED: 17:20, 19 March 2013


Pressure group Hacked Off is refusing to reveal who is bankrolling them despite campaigning for more transparency in the press.

Senior members would not comment on claims that rich benefactors keen on greater media regulation were covering the costs of the group, which is supported by celebrities including Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan.

Blogger Guido Fawkes claims he has a list that shows key donors include Lady Annabel Goldsmith, mother of Jemima Khan and Zac Goldsmith and billionaire Lord Sainsbury, who was one of Labour's biggest financial backers under Tony Blair.

Another four high-profile donators were claimed to be philosopher Alain de Botton, tycoon Arpad Busson, hairdresser John Frieda and BBC star Jeremy Clarkson.

Mr Clarkson, who is alleged to have made a £1,000 payment to Hacked Off, denied this on Twitter yesterday.

The net worth of these rich and powerful men and women is far in excess of £1billion, and they may have helped support the parents of Milly Dowler and Madeleine McCann from press intrusion.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295834/So-funding-Hacked-Off-Campaign-group-refuses-rich-donors-despite-campaigning-transparency.html#ixzz2O0cR9yuI

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 17:55

Bit more from the article....



Tory MP Conor Burns, said: 'The champions of openness that is Hacked Off refuse to name large private donors in non-answers to my questions'.



Philip Davies, one of 14 Conservative MPs who rebelled last night over a Commons amendment enabling the courts to impose exemplary damages on newspapers which do not sign up to the new regulator, said it was 'laughable' for Hacked Off to pose as champions of a free press.


'You are not here to represent a free press. You're here to represent people who on the one hand court publicity for all it's worth if there's a financial return for them but don't like the negative publicity that sometimes goes with it,' he said.


'You're here representing the Hugh Grants of the world. You are not here representing the free press of the world.'



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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 17:58

ShuBob, I have merged your thread with this one, as we want to keep discussion on the same subject in one place.
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Post by ShuBob on 19.03.13 18:13

candyfloss wrote:ShuBob, I have merged your thread with this one, as we want to keep discussion on the same subject in one place.

Ah, ok thanks. I was wondering where the thread had gone

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 18:32

Kevin Maguire opinion

Despots will take heart from the Three Stooges beating down the Press

19 Mar 2013 02:42


I’ve huge sympathy for the victims of hacking. Yet compensation of up to £2m and the jailing of perpetrators is evidence tough laws are in place

The Stitch-Up Three finally have their revenge on a press which exposed the scandal of MPs’ expenses.

In the end Cameron, Clegg and Miliband were more united than divided.

Instead of a US First Amendment to guarantee free speech and a free press, we’ll be shackled.

The chains will be padlocked by the Privy Council and a Royal Charter, a couple of medieval relics from an undemocratic era.

If there is to be statutory regulation it would be more honest to impose it by the front door.

I know from conversations with many politicians of all parties they dislike a probing, often raucous press.

MPs’ expenses was a turning point and Parliament is to settle an old score.

MPs and Peers who defend their own free speech in the Commons and Lords don’t give a XXXX for the risks faced by people outside.

The great irony is the hacking which shut the News of the World is already illegal.

Paying a policeman is a specific offence in law, punishable by prison.

The laws existed – the problem was they weren’t enforced by the cops.

I’ve huge sympathy for the victims of hacking.

Yet tens of thousands of pounds each in compensation, £2million in the case of the Dowlers, and the jailing of perpetrators is evidence tough laws are in place.

The cobbled together blanket law will blow up in Britain’s face.

Next time a Prime Minister denounces the censorship of a Mugabe they’ll have a ready retort.

Despots will take heart from Britain beating the press.

Cameron vowed to oppose legislation then buckled, conceding authority to Miliband by letting talks be in the Labour leader’s office.

Miliband fell under the spell of Hugh Grant, a convicted felon with an axe to grind after the bad publicity when he paid a prostitute for a lewd sex act in a car.

Clegg forgot he was a liberal the moment he had his clammy hands on a Whitehall red box, backing secret courts as well as curtailing press freedom.

The Stitch-Up Three want to cow newspapers to escape accountability.

The victims will be an electorate left in the dark

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kevin-maguire-press-regulation-despots-1772523

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 18:39

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Post by ShuBob on 19.03.13 19:06

I just don't get why the Hacked Off brigade don't want to reveal details of their donors. Surely, they don't include despots and the like

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Post by aiyoyo on 19.03.13 19:19

@plebgate wrote:Yes it scares me to Aquilla.

In view of what we have learned about this since yesterday, I think the 3 party leaders should be summoned by the Speaker and asked in the House as to whether this changes their minds about things?

Why were Hacked off delegates allowed into the meeting but the newspapers were not?

Apparently they were invited by LibLab while Cameron was asleep on the job when he sent Oliver Letwin on his diplomatic mission. And, Letwin was probably dozing off from digesting his full sunday roast when he signed on the dotted lines along with Lib & lab, or too inept to realise this is not the right time to show unity over coalition ruling.

Hacked off is undoing what centuries of true victims who fought and died to bring about liberty and free press. It's a shame little Hugh whose anger is being caught with prostitute, is too stupid to realise he's being made use of by the Hacked Off funders for their own agenda.
Creeps like gerry and grant have no business forcing the Govt to regulate press by law since they are victims by their own makings, and have no business deciding what is good for the people up and down the country.

One is left wondering who is running the country - Hacked off or the elected Government?

I hope every press organisation will refuse to join the new watchdog then it will be interesting to see what the government will do about that. Unless there's a statutory law making it a punishable offence not to join, I cant see how they can force publishers to join voluntarily.

It's ludicrous that something so serious as curtailment of free press can be decided on and fait accompli by a selected few at such record time without any representation from the press industry, yet Hacked Off representatives were allowed in to whisper into the ears of Ed Milliband. It raises the questions whether the secret meeting was legal, and whether the required quorum as stipulated by the constitution was met. Something so seriously important as this should have been passed,if it should be passed at all, by 2/3 majority votes of the House of Commons.

I don't think a few self-caused victims from Hacked off is going to be allowed to take this country back to the dark ages and draconians law without strong resistance from certain quarters.
There will be blood before this is over.....and little granty may find himself ending up as patsy for Hacked Off.










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Post by Newintown on 19.03.13 19:20

@ShuBob wrote:I just don't get why the Hacked Off brigade don't want to reveal details of their donors. Surely, they don't include despots and the like

Probably the modern day version of despots, that's why they're not revealing their names.

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 19:32

Dowlers received 2 million in compensation plus numerous articles, if not upfront apologies.
McCanns received 5 figure amounts in compensation [if not more, ref. Desmond] and front page apologies. The press has been toeing the line ever since ...

There are laws and there IS redress in place for the press. Why smother free speech in the UK?
An additional effort to control the web?

Oh, we shouldn't forget that Pinky was Head of Media Monitoring before becoming McCann's spokesman.
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Post by Newintown on 19.03.13 19:54

@aiyoyo wrote:
@plebgate wrote:Yes it scares me to Aquilla.

In view of what we have learned about this since yesterday, I think the 3 party leaders should be summoned by the Speaker and asked in the House as to whether this changes their minds about things?

Why were Hacked off delegates allowed into the meeting but the newspapers were not?

Apparently they were invited by LibLab while Cameron was asleep on the job when he sent Oliver Letwin on his diplomatic mission. And, Letwin was probably dozing off from digesting his full sunday roast when he signed on the dotted lines along with Lib & lab, or too inept to realise this is not the right time to show unity over coalition ruling.

Hacked off is undoing what centuries of true victims who fought and died to bring about liberty and free press. It's a shame little Hugh whose anger is being caught with prostitute, is too stupid to realise he's being made use of by the Hacked Off funders for their own agenda.
Creeps like gerry and grant have no business forcing the Govt to regulate press by law since they are victims by their own makings, and have no business deciding what is good for the people up and down the country.

One is left wondering who is running the country - Hacked off or the elected Government?

I hope every press organisation will refuse to join the new watchdog then it will be interesting to see what the government will do about that. Unless there's a statutory law making it a punishable offence not to join, I cant see how they can force publishers to join voluntarily.

It's ludicrous that something so serious as curtailment of free press can be decided on and fait accompli by a selected few at such record time without any representation from the press industry, yet Hacked Off representatives were allowed in to whisper into the ears of Ed Milliband. It raises the questions whether the secret meeting was legal, and whether the required quorum as stipulated by the constitution was met. Something so seriously important as this should have been passed,if it should be passed at all, by 2/3 majority votes of the House of Commons.

I don't think a few self-caused victims from Hacked off is going to be allowed to take this country back to the dark ages and draconians law without strong resistance from certain quarters.
There will be blood before this is over.....and little granty may find himself ending up as patsy for Hacked Off.


re:the wording in red - it does make me wonder WHY this very serious decision is being put through SO QUICKLY. Why not allow another 4 or 5 months for it to being discussed in Parliament, but oh no, it has to be now. So what does that say about our politicians? Is there something coming up in the next few months that is so horrendous that needs to be buried so that the general public can't find out about?
Well, I can think of one court case, for instance.

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Post by bobbin on 19.03.13 20:03

Châtelaine wrote:Dowlers received 2 million in compensation plus numerous articles, if not upfront apologies.
McCanns received 5 figure amounts in compensation [if not more, ref. Desmond] and front page apologies. The press has been toeing the line ever since ...

There are laws and there IS redress in place for the press. Why smother free speech in the UK?
An additional effort to control the web?

Oh, we shouldn't forget that Pinky was Head of Media Monitoring before becoming McCann's spokesman.
Châtelaine, somehow I feel that this is significant but can't put my finger on it yet. I do wonder about any New World Order connections.

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Post by Guest on 19.03.13 20:08

Excellent point you make Newintown, why the horrendous rush to push this through. Meetings at 2.30 am followed by a fait accompli, and members of Parliament not even given a draft copy in the House but expected to debate the issue. What's going on?
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Post by bobbin on 19.03.13 20:31

candyfloss wrote:Excellent point you make Newintown, why the horrendous rush to push this through. Meetings at 2.30 am followed by a fait accompli, and members of Parliament not even given a draft copy in the House but expected to debate the issue. What's going on?
re Rebekah Brookes / Charles Brooks / someone has blown a whistle. What was Rebekah going to splash all over the front pages regarding Mrs. May perhaps? Is something about to come out via the back door rather than the front ?
McCanns v Goncalo Amaral, likely to come to a head soon. Is there something there that certain politicians want subdued?
Reading the Body language yesterday on Live Parliament, Maria Miller was very keen, head down, no eye contact with anyone, just busy busy busy with her papers to get through what was a fudge without giving time or taking questions. The arguments somehow didn't quite add up and so she fudged through to the next bit that was more patent, safer territory.
There is no doubt from the resistance from the MPs who demanded proper time to discuss the associated crimes bill, and that the paperwork for the charter was not delivered until after session had started and no one could have the time to digest it properly and yet at the same time listen to the very speedy presentation of the charter that something is not good at all. Something is causing a great worry.

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Re: Press regulation talks 'break down' **UPDATE** Deal now done

Post by aquila on 19.03.13 22:20

There are two headlines I'd like to see in the Press this week. Full front page.

1. We're not signing.

2. Tell us who funds you Hacked Off.
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Re: Press regulation talks 'break down' **UPDATE** Deal now done

Post by happychick on 19.03.13 22:31

It said on the news just now that even the Queen won't sign it.

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Re: Press regulation talks 'break down' **UPDATE** Deal now done

Post by Woofer on 19.03.13 22:41

@ShuBob wrote:I just don't get why the Hacked Off brigade don't want to reveal details of their donors. Surely, they don't include despots and the like

I wouldn`t be surprised if they were receiving funding from Russia, China or any undemocratic regimes. The Hacked Off Club is just what right wing factions jump on to get leverage where there is discontent.
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