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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 7:48

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/02/maddie-htfm-cyber-warriors-promoting.html

Maddie: HTFM CyberWarriors Promoting Censorship on Youtube
26 FEBRUARY 2008 | POSTED BY JOANA MORAIS


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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 7:57

This is the list of videos which TM have instructed people to react to.
Detailed instructions are given as to exactly how to do this.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q4W0XnQizxE
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x1HU6iYHVVw&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9spzFFbM_pc&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s6iEjpVvyPw&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RJyR3d7jjHo
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F46kt-NR8OU
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nWObudKqvS4
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nvarUH8P3Fg&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3aC2i_vtPmY
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bTlEPpuDZGI&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pL5kY7LJA6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbh6Vx8qEO8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RHL_OHI9GIA&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UfM8xjSpgww&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IesnQ5lBuS8&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0aMljanhrkY&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Sau1GythcYM&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wEiztfdpL1U&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JcRCpcJnuW4&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U3mNfrXjasA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGMHShn0ZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APTUmKY-7Zw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRvgK6M2_7Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIpuIy5JdBE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4W0XnQizxE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lCyfAmw9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfM8xjSpgww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUcVncYr6xc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz3HTefNxfc&feature=related

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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 8:03

And here are the instructions:

*Find as much unacceptable video footage on You Tube as possible and compile a list. At the bottom of this email are some of the links to footage we have found so far.
*Encourage as many people as possible to register at You Tube for the sole purpose of flagging this material and then e-mailing them a complaint.
*As already stated, we are hoping to make our voices heard over a 24 hour period, so as to target youtube with many hundreds/thousands of complaints. The date is set for Tuesday 26 February 2008.

Here are some of the links to the footage.
WARNING . IF you are sensitive to this type of viewing DON'T WATCH the video's, you can just list the footage links in your complaint.

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So they are recommending people to list footage in their complaint without watching the clip. splat

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Post by Truthmustout on 25.02.13 8:23

Everybody download before they get wooshed, they will have a full time job getting them down everytime they get up again. Time they could have spent on looking for Madeleine wich they think are alive and findabel..

Edit - allready whooshed..Oh it was in 2008 they sent that mail I see now ah im sure they are up again then :)

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Post by Truthmustout on 25.02.13 8:26

tigger wrote:And here are the instructions:



So they are recommending people to list footage in their complaint without watching the clip. splat

Ofcourse they are, ppl could turn their believes seeing them spin

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Post by PeterMac on 25.02.13 8:45

Some seem to have been whooshed already.

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Post by Truthmustout on 25.02.13 8:54

PeterMac wrote:Some seem to have been whooshed already.

The article is from 2008, before the PJ files releazed. And seems like their job was not paying of as youtube is still full of Vids of them, but this time with facts from Police files. Not easy to get them wooshed :)

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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 9:01

PeterMac wrote:Some seem to have been whooshed already.

Not all, SORRY! everyone, I missed the 2008 on it - Only saw the 26th Tuesday on it, which as it happens IS tomorrow.

All the same, instructing people to tell YouTube to remove 'offensive' material without needing to see it tells you all you want to know about the McCanns. Easy people, just do as I say. What if we did such a thing in reverse?
If we sent emails to all our members instructing them to approve of those same videos without having to watch them.?

Extreme censorship I would call it. It's made my day to see it didn't work - I'll have to add that event to the timeline of Febr. 08, what was happening then - here's a list: spin


7/2
The letters rogatory for the purpose of re-questioning the McCanns and their seven friends who dined with them at a restaurant in the Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Algarve, have now been forwarded for the second time to the British Home Office,

9/2
The couple’s status as arguidos will be lifted unless “screaming contradictions” are revealed in forthcoming police interviews, according to a Portuguese newspaper.

Police are to give Kate and Gerry McCann the chance to clear their names over daughter Maddie’s disappearance. The couple, who have been official suspects in the case for five months, will be asked by Portuguese detectives to respond to 40 questions. Sources say that unless there are “screaming contradictions” the couple will be cleared.

12/2
Analysis of faces technique points to failures in the McCanns description
A 3 dimensional video, made by the team Paulo Sargento and Pedro Gamito ridicules the photo-fits

Sunday 17 February 2008
Meanwhile, it is understood Kate McCann is quitting her job as a locum GP to devote her life to children's charities. Mrs McCann has not returned to work since Madeleine's disappearance in May and has reportedly told friends she feels she has a lot to offer charity organisations.
The couple want to campaign for a Europe-wide alert system for missing children, like the amber alert system in place in the U.S. The McCanns attended a lunch for Missing Children Europe last week and they have both met with officials from the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children and the Centre for Child Exploitation and Online Protection.

KATE QUITS AS GP TO WORK FOR KIDS' CHARITIES EXCLUSIVE The People
Mum combines 'ambassador' role with search for missing Maddie

Kate and Gerry McCann have been threatened with legal action by the father of missing five-year-old girl after they included her in a poster campaign appealing for information about Madeleine's disappearance.

unquote (from the timeline Febr/March 08)

Beginning to see why a lot of material had to disappear.....

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Post by russiandoll on 25.02.13 9:16

quote Tigger " The letters rogatory for the purpose of re-questioning the McCanns and their seven friends "

can anyone please tell me , because I can't find answers on the net....


1. why the McCanns were not interviewd again in 2008?
2. why some of the tapas group did not undergo a 2nd interview along with their companions in May 2007 ?

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Post by Truthmustout on 25.02.13 9:19

So did I Tigger, I only saw the date and missed the year :)

Never the less , this says a lot about them, I wonder if they have sent letters liket this AFTER the Police files where made available?

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Post by bobbin on 25.02.13 9:22

tigger wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Some seem to have been whooshed already.

Not all, SORRY! everyone, I missed the 2008 on it - Only saw the 26th Tuesday on it, which as it happens IS tomorrow.

All the same, instructing people to tell YouTube to remove 'offensive' material without needing to see it tells you all you want to know about the McCanns. Easy people, just do as I say. What if we did such a thing in reverse?
If we sent emails to all our members instructing them to approve of those same videos without having to watch them.?

Extreme censorship I would call it. It's made my day to see it didn't work - I'll have to add that event to the timeline of Febr. 08, what was happening then - here's a list:


7/2
The letters rogatory for the purpose of re-questioning the McCanns and their seven friends who dined with them at a restaurant in the Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Algarve, have now been forwarded for the second time to the British Home Office,

9/2
The couple’s status as arguidos will be lifted unless “screaming contradictions” are revealed in forthcoming police interviews, according to a Portuguese newspaper.

Police are to give Kate and Gerry McCann the chance to clear their names over daughter Maddie’s disappearance. The couple, who have been official suspects in the case for five months, will be asked by Portuguese detectives to respond to 40 questions. Sources say that unless there are “screaming contradictions” the couple will be cleared.

12/2
Analysis of faces technique points to failures in the McCanns description
A 3 dimensional video, made by the team Paulo Sargento and Pedro Gamito ridicules the photo-fits

Sunday 17 February 2008
Meanwhile, it is understood Kate McCann is quitting her job as a locum GP to devote her life to children's charities. Mrs McCann has not returned to work since Madeleine's disappearance in May and has reportedly told friends she feels she has a lot to offer charity organisations.
The couple want to campaign for a Europe-wide alert system for missing children, like the amber alert system in place in the U.S. The McCanns attended a lunch for Missing Children Europe last week and they have both met with officials from the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children and the Centre for Child Exploitation and Online Protection.

KATE QUITS AS GP TO WORK FOR KIDS' CHARITIES EXCLUSIVE The People
Mum combines 'ambassador' role with search for missing Maddie

Kate and Gerry McCann have been threatened with legal action by the father of missing five-year-old girl after they included her in a poster campaign appealing for information about Madeleine's disappearance.

unquote (from the timeline Febr/March 08)

Beginning to see why a lot of material had to disappear.....

I am also glad it didn't work but two things show up.
1. In less than 12 months since Maddie's disappearance, Kate is already going for the 'diplomatic' position, missing child alert schemes. Pre-planned I am certain, but now that she appears to have been binned by the one charity that made her a diplomat (I've forgotten already which one it was and can't be asked to go and search) she's proving NOT to be the right flavour of the month. Perhaps her f****** t****** mantra doesn't convey enough 'diplomatic schmooziness'.
2. On a more serious note, it highlights the need to capture and retain material. We have seen too much disappear because we were not aware of its pending whooshing, in advance.
Does anyone have the know-how or technology to capture youtube videos. I know I don't, but that's down to my 'age band status' (born before the 1990's, the official birthdate of IT awareness).

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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 9:42

@ bobbin. You'll see that the rogs. also included the McCanns. Or at least the PJ had included them.
40 questions are going to be asked.

The delays in the rogs taking place, courtesy of the Home Office, were mainly due imo to getting the McCanns to get out of being questioned.
Look at the timelines, they are willing to be questioned almost right up to the beginning of April. Then just as the rogs took place they had to go to Brussels to tell the MEPs something they already knew and which made them miss the rogs. Shame.

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Post by bobbin on 25.02.13 10:14

tigger wrote:@ bobbin. You'll see that the rogs. also included the McCanns. Or at least the PJ had included them.
40 questions are going to be asked.

The delays in the rogs taking place, courtesy of the Home Office, were mainly due imo to getting the McCanns to get out of being questioned.
Look at the timelines, they are willing to be questioned almost right up to the beginning of April. Then just as the rogs took place they had to go to Brussels to tell the MEPs something they already knew and which made them miss the rogs. Shame.

This brings me back to David Milliband. He was the one who accompanied them to EU to introduce them and get them launched on the Amber Alert or whatever.
I believe he and his partner have had IVF, but sometime previous to the McCs. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Does anyone remember that bit of video, where Maddie is at home, the camera pulls back a little and part of a man's head is seen. The top left-hand forehead and hair-line. It was discussed at the time and pretty convincingly people felt it looked just like the very distinctive hair-line of David Milliband. The age of Maddie at the time was around the sort of 'pink fairy dress and twirl' video time.
I just remember somewhere it being written that for the advancement of chipping, a pretty child of a well respected family would go missing, justifying the call to chip young people.
Does anyone remember any of this discussion.

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Post by guest. on 25.02.13 10:20

I remember this about David Milliband being on the video and being the link to Government, hence the protection.

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Post by bobbin on 25.02.13 10:51

sally66 wrote:I remember this about David Milliband being on the video and being the link to Government, hence the protection.
sally66, do you have any recollection of where the discussion took place, what the video was and whether it is still around. I wonder if it's been whooshed or whether anyone got a capture of it.

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Post by Nina on 25.02.13 11:07

bobbin wrote:
sally66 wrote:I remember this about David Milliband being on the video and being the link to Government, hence the protection.
sally66, do you have any recollection of where the discussion took place, what the video was and whether it is still around. I wonder if it's been whooshed or whether anyone got a capture of it.

I remember that also. It was a christmas video so should be easy to find. Sadly I am having a glitch with vids, they are freezing so cannot help withthe watching, but may be able to help with the finding of them.Will go and have a surf dance

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Post by Guest on 25.02.13 11:44

Is this the one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZ4PLUPOjE

I wouldn't recognise David Milliband if I saw an actual photo of him!
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Post by guest. on 25.02.13 11:44

I'm useless with links, it was a Christmas or party video though

It was a long time ago so maybe it was on the 3a's forum it was discussed?

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Post by bobbin on 25.02.13 12:12

Jean wrote:Is this the one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZ4PLUPOjE

I wouldn't recognise David Milliband if I saw an actual photo of him!
Hello Jean, I was also looking at this. It is not the one, I think it must have been pulled.
However, looking closely at this again, I see how big little Maddie's head is. Particularly seen with side view at 1.42 to 1.54, if you pause the screen.
Then at 2.06 to 2.35 but then I looked at the playhouse at 00.41 and then again at the stairs and noticed how large the twins heads are, especially Sean's.
This is in the public domain, provided by the parents, so although I have pain viewing and commenting on the little people, the children, at least Maddie and Sean do have large heads which extend out backwards.
I have not seen this in children before, but sweet little children they still are.
At 00.57 to 1.17 these little people's heads are on view.
God bless them and give them strength for all that they will have to live with.

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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 13:24

This says it all:
*Encourage as many people as possible to register at You Tube for the sole purpose of flagging this material and then e-mailing them a complaint.
*As already stated, we are hoping to make our voices heard over a 24 hour period, so as to target youtube with many hundreds/thousands of complaints. unquote

We want you to denounce these videos and any other of the same type that YouTube throws up.
We warn you that you'd be distressed after watching these - so don't - we would prefer you NOT to watch them.
Just take our word for it that these videos need to be taken down - we're doctors! You can trust us....
We're looking for hundreds of thousands of complaints to be lodged . (After all, we had over 50 million hits on our site in May and June 07).
If you're not registered with YouTube, register for the sole purpose of deleting videos you've never seen and indeed never will see if they are indeed deleted.

The words 'overweening' 'vanity' and unfortunately a number of other unprintable ones suggest themselves.

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Post by Guest on 25.02.13 13:28

The message certainly got through to Pam Gurney!

I hadn't realised that there were so many doubters at this early stage before the PJ reports were made available.

Even now Team McCann hasn't realised that drawing attention to their doubters is not the best idea!
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Post by plebgate on 25.02.13 13:52

Tigger I remember it being discussed a few years ago on 3as.
I remember seeing the video also but do not remember if it was ever shown to be milliband definitely. It was deffo a slim man with very short dark hair and I think it was a sideway photo of him.

I remember there was a list of "top nobs" (I am tempted to put a "K" before the n) who were known to have ivf treatment.

G. Brown and his wife were mentioned and Gerry IIRC was hoping to become a labour candidate way back. I remember some posters asking whether this was also a connection between them, but I don't think it was ever established as being so.

At the time there were quite a few mentioned as having had IVF but can't remember them all.

There used to be a poster on 3as who did a very interesting thread abourt IVF and cloning as well as chipping children, but cannot remember the posters name. Very interesting indeed, but I never did believe in the cloning theory, but the same poster made some excellent comments on the case.

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Post by plebgate on 25.02.13 13:57

@Jean
I can remember (I think) within a week of Maddie having gone missing the Daily Mirror had a section where comments could be made. There were loads of comments saying very bad news etc and tragic news.
I then remember one poster (a woman's name) said I don't know but does anybody else think there's something not quite right here. After that the board went into overdrive and that is, I believe, how all the other forums came about especially once the Mirror site was taken down.

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Post by tigger on 25.02.13 14:22

Jean wrote:The message certainly got through to Pam Gurney!

I hadn't realised that there were so many doubters at this early stage before the PJ reports were made available.

Even now Team McCann hasn't realised that drawing attention to their doubters is not the best idea!

I understand Ms. Gurney suffers from multiple personality disorder - how many to date? Double figures by now I expect. There's treatment for that sort of thing.

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Post by Angelique on 25.02.13 14:58

You can understand now why Kate kept saying they were "working really hard" as this is apparently what they were doing.

Recruiting people to trawl You Tube for anything which they took to be bad publicity.

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