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Carter-Ruck explain why they've appointed Adrienne Page Q.C. to beef up their legal firepower
Today I've received a further letter from Carter-Ruck, dated yesterday, which explains why the McCanns are spending a further £32,000 hiring Adrienne Page Q.C. to try to prove that I am in contempt of court.
They say, and I quote verbatim:
"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. Becaue of the serious consequences which the matter in issue may have for you, and for our clients, it is appropriate that such assistance is given at a senior level. There is no intention to create an inequality of arms, nor to obtain any unfair advantage. Indeed, the position is precisely the opposite. We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
They say, and I quote verbatim:
"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. Becaue of the serious consequences which the matter in issue may have for you, and for our clients, it is appropriate that such assistance is given at a senior level. There is no intention to create an inequality of arms, nor to obtain any unfair advantage. Indeed, the position is precisely the opposite. We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
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That's the sort of spin you would expect from a politician!! It's also a damning indictment on the ability of their own staff that they feel the need to bring in a QC.
It is also a slur on the judge if they feel they need a QC to explain the processes to the court.
It is also a slur on the judge if they feel they need a QC to explain the processes to the court.
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unfair advantage -- have the been reading here me thinks
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Tony Bennett wrote:Today I've received a further letter from Carter-Ruck, dated yesterday, which explains why the McCanns are spending a further £32,000 hiring Adrienne Page Q.C. to try to prove that I am in contempt of court.
They say, and I quote verbatim:
"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. Becaue of the serious consequences which the matter in issue may have for you, and for our clients, it is appropriate that such assistance is given at a senior level. There is no intention to create an inequality of arms, nor to obtain any unfair advantage. Indeed, the position is precisely the opposite. We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
HA HA HA HA HA, does that mean the good silken lady is being employed by CR and McCs on YOUR behalf Tony.
If so, why are you being charged for her services if her good counsel fails to keep you out of jail.
Gosh, never was a good, strong, sense of humour more needed than at this particularly late hour.
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As McSpin goes that's right up there, one of the shiniest crud jewels atop a very, very large dung heap.
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Innocent parents could surely have 'self-represented' themselves for free.
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We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
I wonder if the judge will take kindly to this high-handedness. This should be read out in court.
I wonder if the judge will take kindly to this high-handedness. This should be read out in court.
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Very poetically put, Monkey Mind!
My local refuse tip smells a darn sight sweeter than Team McCann's antics.
My local refuse tip smells a darn sight sweeter than Team McCann's antics.
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isnt it just -- big mind games being playedJean wrote:Very poetically put, Monkey Mind!
My local refuse tip smells a darn sight sweeter than Team McCann's antics.
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Ah, I see Adrienne Page is there to help you, but you were not asked, and yet you are being charged £32,000?
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send a letter back saying services no longer needed -- thanks but no thanks --candyfloss wrote:Ah, I see Adrienne Page is there to help you, but you were not asked, and yet you are being charged £32,000?
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cass7 wrote:send a letter back saying services no longer needed -- thanks but no thanks --candyfloss wrote:Ah, I see Adrienne Page is there to help you, but you were not asked, and yet you are being charged £32,000?
what a f****** cheek they have,sorry ,but i am getting so bloody mad.they really are gutter shit
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tiny wrote:cass7 wrote:send a letter back saying services no longer needed -- thanks but no thanks --candyfloss wrote:Ah, I see Adrienne Page is there to help you, but you were not asked, and yet you are being charged £32,000?
what a f****** cheek they have,sorry ,but i am getting so bloody mad.they really are gutter shit
They are desperately trying to paint themselves out of a sticky corner. They are thrashing around thinking 'why the **** won't Tony just buckle !!
It would make things so much easier (for us and our wealthy backed clients, who really wish this whole thing would just go away instead of risking becoming a fully fledged libel case in the Oh so near future)
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I wonder if His Honour Mr Justice Tugendhat feels that he needs significant assistance, and that without it he is likely to conduct the proceedings in an inefficient and unfair manner ?Tony Bennett wrote:
"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. . .We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
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bobbin wrote:tiny wrote:cass7 wrote:send a letter back saying services no longer needed -- thanks but no thanks --candyfloss wrote:Ah, I see Adrienne Page is there to help you, but you were not asked, and yet you are being charged £32,000?
what a f****** cheek they have,sorry ,but i am getting so bloody mad.they really are gutter shit
They are desperately trying to paint themselves out of a sticky corner. They are thrashing around thinking 'why the **** won't Tony just buckle !!
It would make things so much easier (for us and our wealthy backed clients, who really wish this whole thing would just go away instead of risking becoming a fully fledged libel case in the Oh so near future)
i agree with you,but it is making me so mad to think cr can intimidate and think they can get away with it,all for a couple who by their own admission neglected their children(not that i believe this)good job Tony is made of sterner stuff and is showing this bunch up for what they are
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Tony Bennett wrote:
"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. Becaue of the serious consequences which the matter in issue may have for you, and for our clients, it is appropriate that such assistance is given at a senior level. There is no intention to create an inequality of arms, nor to obtain any unfair advantage. Indeed, the position is precisely the opposite. We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
What an absolute crock of bull..Carter Ruck should take heed of what their clients posted on their FB page yesterday
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PeterMac wrote:I wonder if His Honour Mr Justice Tugendhat feels that he needs significant assistance, and that without it he is likely to conduct the proceedings in an inefficient and unfair manner ?Tony Bennett wrote:
"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. . .We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
Cant see it myself.other wise Tony would have been told before now,surely
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Haha, Carter Ruck are trying to manage their own reputation now.
Hope it’s alright to post a couple of snippets from the Indy & Relgion News regarding another of Carter Rucks clients, Scientology. Delete if not. Journalist Lawrence Wright’s book on the Church of Scientology ‘Going Clear’. is available across the world - everywhere that is EXCEPT THE UK. Wright says that one of the claims made by the Church of Scientology is that the murder of six million Jewish people was planned and carried out by psychiatrists. Not a single publisher in the UK would take it on (Transworld initially agreed but backed down). Wright asserts that even the FBI and IRS are reluctant to intervene in the church’s activities because they are scared of the lawyers in spite of serious issues regarding child labour (amongst other things). This is the kind of terrible stranglehold imposed by these libel lawyers. They don’t care who they represent.
From the Independent 7 January 2013
'Scientologists believe the Holocaust was planned and carried out by psychiatrists'
The Church of Scientology is a cult whose core aim is to fight a space alien Satan that's brainwashed the rest of us. The Church fights the world's insanity, its celebrity followers argue, and people who tell you differently are bigots. So who's right?
Lawrence Wright is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who has written what promises to be a great book on Scientology. Going Clear is due to be published everywhere on 17 January – except Britain. Just before Christmas, Transworld, Wright's British publishers, pulled it, leading to questions about whether it had fallen to the Church's reputation for going after its detractors and Britain's libel laws.
Wright had a huge advance negotiated by über-agent Andrew Wylie, publishers around the world primed to publish on the same day, a reported print run of 150,000 in the US and a team of researchers checking every fact. He will have things to say in his book that readers – especially young people, the audience the Church seeks to recruit – may think they have a right to know. American readers will learn all, while Wright's potential British readers will have no book to buy.
….The reason I went with dog bloke is simple. It wasn't the lavishness of the advance – a pint and a packet of crisps. It was because every single major publisher in Britain said "no" to my book. The reason some gave was legal risk. The Church's lawyers in Britain, Carter-Ruck, libel specialists beloved of celebrities, politicians and major corporations, have said: "Free speech is not an unfettered right." You can say that again.
They [Scientologists] believe that the Holocaust was planned and carried out by psychiatrists. If you are doing a book about Scientology, then you cannot do better than having the son and grandson of two German-Jewish psychiatrists as your publisher. You don't need capital to publish a book on Scientology – you need courage.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientologists-believe-the-holocaust-was-planned-and-carried-out-by-psychiatrists-8440369.html
Religion News Jan 31, 2013
Q: You detail some pretty serious violations of child labor laws by Scientology. Why isn’t law enforcement stepping in?
A: I don’t know. I mean, the church says it’s not in violation, but I look at those labor laws and it seems pretty clear. I can tell you that law enforcement agencies are reluctant to get involved with the Church of Scientology. The church is surrounded by high-powered lawyers. If you are going to take on the Church of Scientology, whether it’s the FBI or the IRS or the sheriff of Riverside County, it’s a mighty task, and the agencies know that very well.
http://www.religionnews.com/2013/01/31/renowned-journalist-throws-the-book-at-scientology/
Hope it’s alright to post a couple of snippets from the Indy & Relgion News regarding another of Carter Rucks clients, Scientology. Delete if not. Journalist Lawrence Wright’s book on the Church of Scientology ‘Going Clear’. is available across the world - everywhere that is EXCEPT THE UK. Wright says that one of the claims made by the Church of Scientology is that the murder of six million Jewish people was planned and carried out by psychiatrists. Not a single publisher in the UK would take it on (Transworld initially agreed but backed down). Wright asserts that even the FBI and IRS are reluctant to intervene in the church’s activities because they are scared of the lawyers in spite of serious issues regarding child labour (amongst other things). This is the kind of terrible stranglehold imposed by these libel lawyers. They don’t care who they represent.
From the Independent 7 January 2013
'Scientologists believe the Holocaust was planned and carried out by psychiatrists'
The Church of Scientology is a cult whose core aim is to fight a space alien Satan that's brainwashed the rest of us. The Church fights the world's insanity, its celebrity followers argue, and people who tell you differently are bigots. So who's right?
Lawrence Wright is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who has written what promises to be a great book on Scientology. Going Clear is due to be published everywhere on 17 January – except Britain. Just before Christmas, Transworld, Wright's British publishers, pulled it, leading to questions about whether it had fallen to the Church's reputation for going after its detractors and Britain's libel laws.
Wright had a huge advance negotiated by über-agent Andrew Wylie, publishers around the world primed to publish on the same day, a reported print run of 150,000 in the US and a team of researchers checking every fact. He will have things to say in his book that readers – especially young people, the audience the Church seeks to recruit – may think they have a right to know. American readers will learn all, while Wright's potential British readers will have no book to buy.
….The reason I went with dog bloke is simple. It wasn't the lavishness of the advance – a pint and a packet of crisps. It was because every single major publisher in Britain said "no" to my book. The reason some gave was legal risk. The Church's lawyers in Britain, Carter-Ruck, libel specialists beloved of celebrities, politicians and major corporations, have said: "Free speech is not an unfettered right." You can say that again.
They [Scientologists] believe that the Holocaust was planned and carried out by psychiatrists. If you are doing a book about Scientology, then you cannot do better than having the son and grandson of two German-Jewish psychiatrists as your publisher. You don't need capital to publish a book on Scientology – you need courage.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientologists-believe-the-holocaust-was-planned-and-carried-out-by-psychiatrists-8440369.html
Religion News Jan 31, 2013
Q: You detail some pretty serious violations of child labor laws by Scientology. Why isn’t law enforcement stepping in?
A: I don’t know. I mean, the church says it’s not in violation, but I look at those labor laws and it seems pretty clear. I can tell you that law enforcement agencies are reluctant to get involved with the Church of Scientology. The church is surrounded by high-powered lawyers. If you are going to take on the Church of Scientology, whether it’s the FBI or the IRS or the sheriff of Riverside County, it’s a mighty task, and the agencies know that very well.
http://www.religionnews.com/2013/01/31/renowned-journalist-throws-the-book-at-scientology/
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"Your self-represented status means that the Court is likely to require significant assistance from Counsel. Becaue of the serious consequences which the matter in issue may have for you, and for our clients, it is appropriate that such assistance is given at a senior level. There is no intention to create an inequality of arms, nor to obtain any unfair advantage. Indeed, the position is precisely the opposite. We consider that the Hearing is likely to be more efficiently and fairly conducted, to all parties, if Leading Counsel is present"
Aahh ... that`s so sweet and considerate of you dear CR.
Do they really think there is anyone on this planet that would actually believe that waffle.
Aahh ... that`s so sweet and considerate of you dear CR.
Do they really think there is anyone on this planet that would actually believe that waffle.
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I suppose they must believe that people will believe it.
They know Tony won't believe it.
And it isn't for the Judge's benefit.
They know Tony won't believe it.
And it isn't for the Judge's benefit.
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I'm not sure where to post this so please move it to the right topic mods.
The McCann's will not be attending the hearing. Isn't it the twins' birthday on one of the dates of the hearing? Will we see a lovely message somewhere or other about the twins on the McCann stuff/website thingies that day?
Didn't the McCann's or their lawyers organise the hearing for these dates?
The McCann's will not be attending the hearing. Isn't it the twins' birthday on one of the dates of the hearing? Will we see a lovely message somewhere or other about the twins on the McCann stuff/website thingies that day?
Didn't the McCann's or their lawyers organise the hearing for these dates?
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monkey mind wrote:I suppose they must believe that people will believe it.
They know Tony won't believe it.
And it isn't for the Judge's benefit.
No, judges are supposed to be wise.
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It's the twins' birthday today.
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aquila wrote:I'm not sure where to post this so please move it to the right topic mods.
The McCann's will not be attending the hearing. Isn't it the twins' birthday on one of the dates of the hearing? Will we see a lovely message somewhere or other about the twins on the McCann stuff/website thingies that day?
Didn't the McCann's or their lawyers organise the hearing for these dates?
Its actually their birthday today.
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Jean wrote:It's the twins' birthday today.
Thanks Jean, apologies for my suspicions.
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