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First conviction and sentence
Detective Chief Inspector who tried to sell hacking probe information to News of the World is jailed but judge reduces sentence because she is adopting a child
April Casburn sentenced to 15 months for misconduct in public office
Judge rejects argument she was blowing whistle on hacking investigation
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271798/Detective-Chief-Inspector-jailed-offering-sell-information-phone-hacking-investigation-News-World.html
That will mess up a few night's sleep in a few households tonight.
They'll need more than a QC or two to get them out of this.
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Reduced sentence because she is adopting child. Will she still be able to adopt when she comes out of prison. Not a very good example is she and yet social services have stopped people adopting before now if they are smokers. BARMEY.
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Isn't Rebecca Brooks adopting a child also?plebgate wrote:Reduced sentence because she is adopting child. Will she still be able to adopt when she comes out of prison. Not a very good example is she and yet social services have stopped people adopting before now if they are smokers. BARMEY.
Is this new-fashioned rush for older women to adopt a child when whiff of prison sentence is in the air, a novel form of child abuse?
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I really cannot see how any adoption can continue.
It cannot be in the child's best interests to live in a household where criminal activity is acceptable.The prospective adoptive mother will have a criminal record.The Local Authority will be opening itself up for possible legal challenges by applicants who have previously been turned down for adoption on the basis of a criminal conviction.
It cannot be in the child's best interests to live in a household where criminal activity is acceptable.The prospective adoptive mother will have a criminal record.The Local Authority will be opening itself up for possible legal challenges by applicants who have previously been turned down for adoption on the basis of a criminal conviction.
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Good point Bobbin - hadn't thought of that. Plus Charlie Brook might get a more lenient sentence if found guilty as he will also be adopting.
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Another young dad to be... born 3rd March, 1963, makes him almost 50.plebgate wrote:Good point Bobbin - hadn't thought of that. Plus Charlie Brook might get a more lenient sentence if found guilty as he will also be adopting.
Have they run out of 'younger prospective parents' for young babies to have parents who will still be able to play basketball (without wheezing) on the beach when they are 18.
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The Brooks have one baby born to a surrogate mother a year ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6
I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.
Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6
I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.
Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!
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Jean wrote:The Brooks have one baby born to a surrogate mother a year ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6
I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.
Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!
ah, thanks for that Jean. Happy Birthday for the 3rd of March when it comes.
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I’m sure this was a very well thought out adoption based entirely on altruism and the inner need to provide a good home for an unfortunate child. No doubt the first papers for the adoption were filed well before she fell under suspicion of her crimes.
That said, quite astonishing the amount of people that fall pregnant either individually or as a couple after being charged with an offence likely to carry a custodial sentence.
For the more discerning defendant who is perhaps more mature, reasonably wel heeled and does not wish to put themselves through the discomfort of giving birth, the adoption route can be, well, adopted.
So long as sentencing authorities continue to announce that they took such a thing into consideration when passing or suspending a custodial sentence then the shamefully selfish will continue to present the unborn, just born or unwanted as motivation for leniency.
Not sayin’, just sayin’.
That said, quite astonishing the amount of people that fall pregnant either individually or as a couple after being charged with an offence likely to carry a custodial sentence.
For the more discerning defendant who is perhaps more mature, reasonably wel heeled and does not wish to put themselves through the discomfort of giving birth, the adoption route can be, well, adopted.
So long as sentencing authorities continue to announce that they took such a thing into consideration when passing or suspending a custodial sentence then the shamefully selfish will continue to present the unborn, just born or unwanted as motivation for leniency.
Not sayin’, just sayin’.
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Hi Again Bobbin.
I did read very recently that Brooks is trying to adopt a child. IIRC footage was shown on tv where she said at a meeting she was asked to attend to answer questions from MPs that she said something along the lines that monies had been paid for info.
IIRC she was also questionned by police some years ago about an alleged physical assault she carried out on her then husband Ross Kemp although no charges were brought. Interestingly,I believe that on the same night Phil Mitchell's then girlfriend was also arrested having been accused of allegedly assaulting Phil Mitchel. Again, no charges brought. Sorry can't think of Phil Mitchells real name.
I did read very recently that Brooks is trying to adopt a child. IIRC footage was shown on tv where she said at a meeting she was asked to attend to answer questions from MPs that she said something along the lines that monies had been paid for info.
IIRC she was also questionned by police some years ago about an alleged physical assault she carried out on her then husband Ross Kemp although no charges were brought. Interestingly,I believe that on the same night Phil Mitchell's then girlfriend was also arrested having been accused of allegedly assaulting Phil Mitchel. Again, no charges brought. Sorry can't think of Phil Mitchells real name.
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Maybe this works retrospectively as it were. The DCI I think has already adopted the child and the worry was that being away from said child would damage their relationship.
However it seems as though there is a double standard regarding adoption. If a couple who want to adopt are your average couple you seem to be investigated to the 8th Degree and any little anomally will mean refusal. However, well heeled couples, celebrities and like - no problem.
However it seems as though there is a double standard regarding adoption. If a couple who want to adopt are your average couple you seem to be investigated to the 8th Degree and any little anomally will mean refusal. However, well heeled couples, celebrities and like - no problem.
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I wonder if we'll see any more high profile people going down the adoption route? ..................
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Didn't the Brooks have a baby via a surrogate mother, back in early 2012?
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"Relatively little is known about Rebekah Brooks's private life" BBC News 24 July 2012
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13117456
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13117456
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Jean wrote:The Brooks have one baby born to a surrogate mother a year ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6
I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.
Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!
Yes Sallypelt, that's correct.
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Mrs Beeton wrote:I wonder if we'll see any more high profile people going down the adoption route? ..................
Adoption being the prerogative word
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Yes it seems that if you are rich or have the right connections adoption is made relatively easy and maybe lighter sentences passed if you have adopted or about to adopt a child.
How different for the "plebs" of this world. I can remember when a pregnant woman was handcuffed to her hospital bed under the Thatcher Tories (I think Ann Widdecombe) made the decision. No such compassion for that woman by the authorities. I wonder if judges will be so compassionate with pregnant women and women who already have children who appear before them. Equality in Britain imo does not exist. Money talks and for us plebs - well we are useful as cannon fodder and that's about it.
How different for the "plebs" of this world. I can remember when a pregnant woman was handcuffed to her hospital bed under the Thatcher Tories (I think Ann Widdecombe) made the decision. No such compassion for that woman by the authorities. I wonder if judges will be so compassionate with pregnant women and women who already have children who appear before them. Equality in Britain imo does not exist. Money talks and for us plebs - well we are useful as cannon fodder and that's about it.
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plebgate wrote:Yes it seems that if you are rich or have the right connections adoption is made relatively easy and maybe lighter sentences passed if you have adopted or about to adopt a child.
How different for the "plebs" of this world. I can remember when a pregnant woman was handcuffed to her hospital bed under the Thatcher Tories (I think Ann Widdecombe) made the decision. No such compassion for that woman by the authorities. I wonder if judges will be so compassionate with pregnant women and women who already have children who appear before them. Equality in Britain imo does not exist. Money talks and for us plebs - well we are useful as cannon fodder and that's about it.
Ms Widdicombe argued they were not shackled during labour but only before and after, therefore she thought a mother about to go into labour and the moment after giving birth is going to try and abscond, stupid stupid pathetic woman!
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A stupid woman indeed imo. Look no further than her appearance on Strictly Dancing, letting the nation laugh at her and yet she was able to make such a decision affecting that pregnant woman. Staggering arrogance I think.
Thanks for pm inspectorfrost.
Thanks for pm inspectorfrost.
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plebgate wrote:A stupid woman indeed imo. Look no further than her appearance on Strictly Dancing, letting the nation laugh at her and yet she was able to make such a decision affecting that pregnant woman. Staggering arrogance I think.
Thanks for pm inspectorfrost.
Youre welcome and thanks. Whats the betting said woman was not in for murder or something serious like that.Ms W was always too harsh and had no empathy whatsoever.! Seeing as she says shes a strict christian doesnt exactly gel either. Sorry, getting off topic. And yes she was a total muppet on strictly.
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