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Update: Max Clifford convicted and sentenced to 8 years: 2nd May 2014

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Post by Guest on 04.04.14 15:29

Judging from his nose, I'd say he's average or maybe just a little bit under ...

Anyone here familiar with the German saying: "And der Nase eines Mannes, erkennt man sein Johannes".
It's true  big grin 
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Post by aiyoyo on 04.04.14 15:40

Châtelaine wrote:Judging from his nose, I'd say he's average or maybe just a little bit under ...

Anyone here familiar with the German saying: "And der Nase eines Mannes, erkennt man sein Johannes".
It's true  big grin 



A doctor had measured Clifford's penis at five and a quarter inches long when flaccid, the jury has been told.
So, going by the nose saying would your guesstimation be correct ?


If it was not done by a Dr. approved by prosecutor, it should not be admissible I'd would thought.

I have heard of the nose and the size of the fingers saying.
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Post by plebgate on 05.04.14 10:27

This man has been exposed to filth from early teenage years and found it all a bit of a laugh apparently.  How very, very sad that his daughter has to hear all of this, especially what the size of  his flaccid penis is.    Horrible.

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Post by PeterMac on 05.04.14 11:08

@aiyoyo wrote:A doctor had measured Clifford's penis at five and a quarter inches long when flaccid, the jury has been told.
Depending on the weather !

When I was on the Underwater Search Unit (aka {Police Frogmen !) we had a simple way of explaining to people how cold the water was  . . .

About "that cold".
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Post by aiyoyo on 05.04.14 11:30

@PeterMac wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:A doctor had measured Clifford's penis at five and a quarter inches long when flaccid, the jury has been told.
Depending on the weather !

When I was on the Underwater Search Unit (aka {Police Frogmen !) we had a simple way of explaining to people how cold the water was  . . .

About "that cold".
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Exactly!
Could be a lot worst than that for all we care !

I dont get why they fuss about his manhood or lack or in Court, as if that matters to the alleged offence.
Size is a benchmark of his predilection or not to sexual assaults.
To be accurate simulation of the exact same temperature/condition should apply, else it's just nonsense.
His pervert clients must be having a good laugh now that the table is turned around.
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Post by PeterMac on 05.04.14 12:43

@aiyoyo wrote:To be accurate simulation of the exact same temperature/condition should apply, else it's just nonsense.

It is probably the origin of the myth of the size of the black african.

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Post by ultimaThule on 05.04.14 13:07

I would imagine that Baron Prescott of 'chipolata' fame is mighty relieved that his own appendage wasn't subjected to a tape measure the type of medical scrutiny which may have occurred if he'd denied Tracy Temple's claims of their tawdry torrid affair of 2 years' duration.  big grin 

The initials MC are CM reversed and it's always seemed to me that CM is a natural successor to MC.
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Post by aiyoyo on 05.04.14 13:35

@ultimaThule wrote:I would imagine that Baron Prescott of 'chipolata' fame is mighty relieved that his own appendage wasn't subjected to a tape measure the type of medical scrutiny which may have occurred if he'd denied Tracy Temple's claims of their tawdry torrid affair of 2 years' duration.  big grin 

The initials MC are CM reversed and it's always seemed to me that CM is a natural successor to MC.


What? You mean CM succeeding MC in that region?  
He would better off growing balls first.....
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Post by ultimaThule on 05.04.14 15:01

I must confess I hadn't given much thought to any specific 'region' in which CM might succeed MC, aiyoyo, but, now that you've mentioned it, it seems probable the family source is equipped in all of those areas which are necessary for him to assume MC's role in the not too distant future.
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Post by Guest on 05.04.14 15:29

[quote="PeterMac"]
@aiyoyo wrote: [...]

When I was on the Underwater Search Unit (aka {Police Frogmen !) we had a simple way of explaining to people how cold the water was  . . .

About "that cold".
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My late first husband was a sports diver. He and his friends would use exactly the same gesture.
And knowing him intimately, I would understand that it was VERY cold  winkwink 
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Post by diatribe on 17.04.14 15:59

An interesting quote from the trial of Max Clifford.


''A number of other witnesses - who are not complainants in the case - also made allegations against Clifford, including one woman who claimed she was just 12 when she was assaulted by the publicist while in a jacuzzi in Spain.

The alleged incident, said to have happened in 1983, could not be included in the charges as it took place abroad, the jury heard.''

Obviously, not a 'hyenaous' enough offence.   big grin

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FOUND GULTY ON EIGHT COUNTS

Post by PeterMac on 28.04.14 14:13

Clifford found Guilty of 8 indecent assaults.
Breaking now on Sky

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Post by russiandoll on 28.04.14 14:13

BREAKING   :  M C FOUND GUILTY OF 8 INDECENT ASSAULTS AND NOT GUILTY OF 2.

   VINDICATION FOR CPS WHO HAD BEEN RECENTLY CRITICISED FOR BRINGING HISTORIC CASES TO COURT.

 11 COUNTS INVOLVING 7 VICTIMS ,  DATING BACK AS FAR AS 1966 AND UP UNTIL 1984.

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Post by petunia on 28.04.14 14:13

He has been found guilty.

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Post by PeterMac on 28.04.14 14:14

They are talking in terms of a custodial sentence ! ! !

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Post by russiandoll on 28.04.14 14:15

Glad that this sleazy creep will be going to prison,  after saying that he did not know some of these women, calling his victims liars who were simply after money.

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Post by PeterMac on 28.04.14 14:18

And compensation - which he can well afford.

I wonder if he will now spill the beans on all the others.

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Post by russiandoll on 28.04.14 14:20

@PeterMac wrote:They are talking in terms of a custodial sentence ! ! !

  I should hope so, after his Stuart Hall-like use of the LUDICROUS word re the allegations. Denials, an attitude towards his victims which stinks, no remorse.
  What a scumbag.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 28.04.14 14:26

LEST WE FORGET:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-494591/Madeleine-Suspect-Robert-Murat-hires-publicist-Max-Clifford-clear-name.html

Relatives of Robert Murat, the first suspect in the Madeleine McCann case, have asked publicist Max Clifford to help them clear his name. Mr Clifford has said he would be willing to represent Mr Murat...

This report was dated 17 November 2007.

FOUR DAYS earlier, the following met in a villa a few miles from Praia da Luz  belonging Ralph and Sally Eveleigh, uncle & aunt to Robert Murat:

1 Ralph Eveleigh
2 Sally Eveleigh
3 cJenny Murat - Robert Murat's mother
4 Robert Murat
5 Francisco Pagarete - Murat's lawyer
6 Brian Kennedy - Cheshire businessman running the McCanns' private investigations
7 Edward Smethurst - Senior East Lancashire Provincial Lodge Freemason, co-ordinating lawyer to the McCanns, and in-house lawyer for Brian Kennedy.

What did this 'Secret Seven' discuss?

What deals did they reach?

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Post by plebgate on 28.04.14 14:55

I feel very sorry for his daughter, he allowed her to stand at his side and defend him to the end.  That tells me all I need to know about him.

I saw a media person (male) being interviewed on tv a bit earlier and he said that Clifford used to boast about his extra marital affairs and about phoning young girls up.     It was well known years ago apparently and yet those in the know kept quiet and let the abuse continue.     Yet again, I'm Alright Jack springs to mind.

Shame (yet again) on all those who were in the know and did nothing.

Given that he has admitted he used to attend sex parties at the age of 16 and found it all a bit of a laugh, I am not at all surprised  to hear he has been found guilty today.    It may all be a bit of a laugh to those used to seeing seedy sex such a young age,  but to innocent victims it certainly isn't.

He aint freakin laughing today is he?

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Post by aiyoyo on 28.04.14 15:41

During the trial, prosecutors portrayed him as a well-practised manipulator, who promised to boost his victims' careers and get them to meet celebrities in exchange for sexual favours.

The court heard from a string of women who testified about Clifford's behaviour in his New Bond Street office.

He offered to get them casting appointments, pretending to be Hollywood bigwigs including Steven Spielberg, Albert "Cubby" Broccoli and Michael Winner on the phone.

Victims included a dancer who received a phone call while she was at a nightclub from someone pretending to represent producer Broccoli, and was told to find out whether Clifford was circumcised.

She then "froze" and realised she was "stuck", and feared she would be raped when Clifford took her into the toilet and assaulted her.


Max Clifford appeared with his family outside Southwark Crown Court
Another girl, a teenage model, said Clifford groped her when she went to his office for career advice in 1983, bragging that he could get her a part in a James Bond film.

The jury found Clifford guilty of four counts of indecently assaulting one victim, who was abused from the age of 15 after she met him while on holiday with her family in Spain.

She said she was "blown away" when he told her she "could be the UK version" of Jodie Foster, and felt unable to say no when he asked her to take off her top and bra.

He later forced her to perform oral sex on him and indecently assaulted her.

Decades later, the victim wrote Clifford an anonymous letter, which was found in his bedside table when his home was searched by police.

In the letter she told Clifford he "took pleasure in degrading me", giving him an "A+ in grooming children".

Speaking to the BBC after his conviction, she said her faith in the justice system had been restored.

"I can't thank the police and the CPS enough for their endeavours to get justice for me and everyone else", she said.


Kudos to the Jury for returning justice to the victims !




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Post by aiyoyo on 28.04.14 15:43

@plebgate wrote:I feel very sorry for his daughter, he allowed her to stand at his side and defend him to the end.  That tells me all I need to know about him.

I don't sorry for her. She knew exactly what she was doing ie covering up for her dad even though she knew her friend has been abused by her dad.
She ought to hang her head in shame.
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Post by ultimaThule on 28.04.14 15:56

@PeterMac wrote:They are talking in terms of a custodial sentence ! ! !
From my understanding of the victims' testimonies the 8 counts of indecent assault for which Clifford has been convicted are far more serious in nature than those we read about during the recent trial of a radio celebrity.

However, as these offences pre-date the Sexual Offences Act 2003, he will be sentenced according to the law in force at the time his criminal conduct occurred and when his sentence is known it may seem to some that he has received undue leniency.
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Post by Watching on 28.04.14 15:58

@russiandoll wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:They are talking in terms of a custodial sentence ! ! !

  I should hope so, after his Stuart Hall-like use of the LUDICROUS word re the allegations. Denials, an attitude towards his victims which stinks, no remorse.
  What a scumbag.


Sentencing Friday I believe, being allowed to wander free until then, though Court said he was not to take this as an indication of his sentence (that it would be light/non custodial?) I think Clifford and his friend  'little willy' might not like it behind bars, and I think too, anticipating that, he might decide he doesn't want to be around come Friday!

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Post by tiny on 28.04.14 15:59

@PeterMac wrote:And compensation - which he can well afford.

I wonder if he will now spill the beans on all the others.

I very much doubt he would spill any beans on others as they are most likely paying him more £££ to keep his mouth shut.
any way this is one DOB and I hope he gets a long jail sentence
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