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James Bulger's killing was "unpleasant"

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James Bulger's killing was "unpleasant"

Post by Get'emGonçalo on 15.03.10 9:34

Pressure to sack an official who dismissed the James Bulger murder as 'unpleasant' was mounting last night.
James's mother Denise Fergus expressed outrage at the 'twisted and insensitive' remarks by Children's Commissioner Maggie Atkinson.
She was joined by the mother of a boy tortured and left for dead by two sadistic brothers in the shocking Edlington case, who said the comments made her 'feel sick'.

Jamie Bulger's mother Denise Fergus has expressed outrage at Children's Commisioner Maggie Atkinson's remarks

Dr Atkinson made the remarks while claiming that it had been wrong to try ten-year-old killers Jon Venables and Robert Thompson in an adult court.
She said the age of criminal responsibility should to be raised from ten to 12. The judge who granted the Bulger killers lifelong anonymity on their release pitched into the row, saying that proposal was 'unworkable'.


Baroness Butler-Sloss said the public would never accept ten-year-old murderers escaping punishment.
The remarks came as it was claimed that Venables had been transferred to a different jail for his own safety after inmates learned his identity.
He has been moved to an isolation unit and is being guarded by 20 prison officers who have been sworn to secrecy, the Mirror claimed.
They refer to him only by his prison number and he is being monitored under constant CCTV, it was reported.

Jamie Bulger, who was murdered after being abducted from a shopping centre

A source claimed: 'No one can get at him where he is now.'
The officers have been vetted, with two on during the day, and one present at night. One entrance has been sealed so there is only one way in and out of the unit - and he will not come into contact with other prisoners.

Yesterday, James' mother Mrs Fergus said she was outraged that Dr Atkinson's comments and called for her to be sacked.
'To describe the murder of James as "unpleasant" is an insult to his memory and a downright lie,' she said.
'This woman owes James and me an apology for her twisted and insensitive comments. Then she should resign or be sacked.
'To say his killers should not have been tried in an adult court is stupid. They committed an adult crime, a cold-blooded murder that was planned and premeditated, and were tried accordingly.'
She added: 'It is a shock to people like Dr Atkinson that children can be truly evil by ten.
But it is a fact and I fear there will be more of them.'

Venables is now being held over alleged child porn offences.

The Edlington brothers were aged 11 and ten when they subjected two other children to a horrific assault for which they were jailed indefinitely. The pair must serve a minimum of five years.
The mother of one of the victims, who cannot be named to protect her child's identity, said of Dr Atkinson: 'How can she come out with something like that? It's ridiculous. It makes me feel sick.
'If it wasn't for the Bulger case, I may not have seen my son's attackers punished with the full force of the law.
'There is no doubt in my mind that the Children's Commissioner should be sacked. Even if she said sorry I don't think it's enough.'
Yesterday politicians joined in the criticism. A spokesman for Jack Straw's Ministry of Justice said: 'We believe that children aged ten and over can differentiate between bad behaviour and serious wrongdoing. We do not intend to raise the age of criminal responsibility.'

Tory justice spokesman Dominic Grieve said: 'Seeing that the Ministry of Justice has always previously said that the age of criminal responsibility should not be raised, this intervention is sending out mixed messages.'

Dr Atkinson had said in an interview at the weekend: 'What they did was exceptionally unpleasant and the fact that a little boy ended up dead is not something the nation can easily forget, but they shouldn't have been tried in an adult court because they were still children.' She said the murder was a 'very difficult crime'.
She later issued a statement attempting to clarify her views, which said: 'Some children and young people do commit terrible crimes and are a danger to themselves and to others. It is right therefore that these children are contained in secure settings.'
Speculation that Jon Venables will dodge charges for allegedly possessing child porn intensified yesterday.

Senior advisers are said to be pushing Jack Straw to avoid a trial to protect the killer's identity. They believe he could be sentenced for longer simply for breaching the terms of his parole.

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Re: James Bulger's killing was "unpleasant"

Post by justagrannynow 1 on 15.03.10 10:19

Just because Dr Atkinson thinks the age of criminal responsibility should be raised to 12, does not mean that Venables and Thompson should not have been tried in an adult court. That is merely her opinion.
There was nothing illegal about the trial.
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Re: James Bulger's killing was "unpleasant"

Post by Pascal on 15.03.10 11:03

Nothing at all Gran.

They committed a most horrible crime. They degraded that little boy and as far as I am concerned did not serve a sufficient sentence to be rehabilitated. How could they? So many politicians pussyfooting around the issue, trying to please all sides, probably more concerned about the impact on the forthcoming election.

Someone should grow some b@lls and explain why the age limit should stay as it is. It's nothing to do with age. it's to do with children learning right from wrong. They can't possibly learn if they are not taught.

Someone should be investigating why Venables rehabilitation has clearly not been successful. Maybe it was because nine years for abuse and murder sends out the wrong message. What has he learned? Only that he can commit further crimes and be protected for it?

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Post by Rainbow on 15.03.10 17:14

Absolutely.If you commit an adult crime you should be tried in an adult court.

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Re: James Bulger's killing was "unpleasant"

Post by Judge Mental on 18.03.10 1:09

Children's Commissioner Maggie Atkinson should be sacked without pension.

If Venables and Thompson did not know that the atrocities they committed were wrong, why did they leave James on a railway track to try and hide the evidence?

Nor was this their first attempt at child abduction. They knew what they were doing and should have been sentenced to life imprisonment. A leopard does not change its spots. It merely hides where it thinks it cannot be seen.
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