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So what was Leveson about then?

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Post by Gillyspot on 12.11.12 4:24

I cannot share the extent of this article by DAVID ROSE and BOB WOFFINDEN of the Daily Mail as it would sully the forum suffice to say that I am virtually incandescent with rage about it. angry2

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231212/Steven-Messham-Astonishing-story-BBC-DIDNT-tell-troubled-star-witness.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

A little bit more about "fixer" David Rose

IS DAVID ROSE WHO VILIFIED MESSHAM LINKED TO PAEDOPHILES
David Rose and co-conspirator Bob Woffinden at the Mail wrote a viscous character assassination of Child Abuse Victim Steven Messham.

Even going so far as to put in the headline that he "Stood trial for £65k fraud at charity for victims of the scandal" But what they forgot to tell their readers was Steven Messham was proven innocent of all charges.

This Charity NORWAS was set-up to help the Victims of Child Abuse in North Wales. The Fraud squad who investigated Messham and the Charity and the CPS Barristers who prosecuted him knew that prosecuting Steven Messham would destroy the work the charity was doing and perhaps they hoped it would finally drive him to suicide.

The prosecution cost him his home because he could not keep up the mortgage payments. Fraud accusations are a common method used by the Corrupt Establishment to shut up those they consider a threat because it renders them peniiless. So the police and CPS deliberately set-up an innocent man Steven Messham, who had already suffered so much as a child.

So why did the Mail and David Rose and Bob Woffinden mislead their readers and cover-up the fact that Steven Messham was FOUND INNOCENT of the fraud. TOTALLY INNOCENT http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_east/4208279.stm

Of course Steven Messham could now sue the Mail for libel but unlike their friend Lord McAlpine Steven does not have the money to pay for expensive Libel lawyers. So the Mail can vilify an innocent man who has already had a lifetime full of trouble because of paedophiles.


So it is no surprise to learn a little more about David Rose and find he may have paedophile sympathy's Rose had been part of the cover-up in the original North Wales Scandal back in the early 90's and he went on to be involved in a cover-up of the Jersey scandal. Something stinks about ROSE.

This is a brilliant investigations into the Conservative Party Fixer David Rose.

"David Rose seems to be what is known by some people in the trade as a ‘fixer’.
‘Fixers’ obviously ‘fix’ things – in his case, Rose specialises in ‘fixing’ tricky problems which are inconveniencing parts of the more conservative parts of the establishment – by using spin, disinformation and pure lies.
In fact, he’s been specialising in discrediting victims who have accused establishment figures of child abuse for some years now, as well as trying to discredit child abuse investigations as a whole
But interestingly, Rose is also a major player in the disinformation campaign being waged by powerful oil interests and right-wing politicians keen to deny the human causes of climate change.
See ...." Read more :-
http://tompride.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/child-abuse-scandal-can-of-worms-just-who-is-daily-mail-reporter-david-rose/


This article links David Rose to Special Branch and dirty tricks http://www.searchlight.org.uk/o-hara/tricks.html

This blog links David Rose to the Jersey child Abuse scandal cover-up and directkly to the cover-up of the North wales child abuse scandal. That David Rose works to help paedophiles is definate it is likley he is even more involved

http://ricosorda.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/daily-mail-journalist-david-rose-he-is.html

Ian Bone who met Rose has this to say :-

" So let me tell you about David Rose. He was a big supporter in print of the ‘weapons of mass destruction evidence’ before the war. He later admitted that he had been a ‘gullible dupe for state disinformation’. But he wasn’t a gullible dupe. He had been invited in by the security services and told he could be given secret information as a favour by the security services. He took the brief. Later he recanted and admitted his involvement with the security services. He was a handy conduit of misinformation. In 1985 acting on behsalf of the Brixton police Commander Marnoch he wrote a ludicrous piece in the Guardian saying the Brixton riot had been jointly organised by Class War and the NationalFront. He later had to retract in the same paper. There is no reason to believe Rose has changed his brief. He is now being fed disinformation to undermine Steve Mesham and protect his pals from a huge scandal. David Rose would repay a closer look but interesting that the state is pulling out all the stops on this one so high are the stakes.
*******For any doubters Rose was brilliantly taken apart by Nick Davies in ‘Flat Earth News’"

http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/david-rose-of-the-mail-on-sunday-a-handy-conduit-for-state-misinformation/

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/is-david-rose-who-vilified-messham.html


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Post by aiyoyo on 12.11.12 5:15

Good grief!

Hope Steve Messham sue each and every of those bastards who hurt him off their pants. If he's no money surely he's entitled to used public aid legal services.
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Post by Gillyspot on 12.11.12 5:21

I have done further research & if this is the Same David Rose (not deputy editor @ Mail on Sunday - another David Rose who writes for Mail on Sunday) he should be jailed at the very least.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100096195/johann-hari-wikipedia-and-a-porn-site-an-extraordinary-new-development/


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Post by tigger on 12.11.12 6:13

@Gillyspot wrote:I have done further research & if this is the Same David Rose (not deputy editor @ Mail on Sunday - another David Rose who writes for Mail on Sunday) he should be jailed at the very least.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100096195/johann-hari-wikipedia-and-a-porn-site-an-extraordinary-new-development/


Johanna wrote this on twitter:

Johanna ‏@UnterdenTeppich
David Rose ordered to discredit any evidence of inst. child abuse in UK? Why did he discredit port. police in #McCann case? #jersey #savile
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Does anyone know of his involvement in the McCann case? Discrediting the PJ?

Character assassination seems to be the preferred route. Great post G! Lots to digest.

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Post by tigger on 12.11.12 8:17

Here's another tweet from Johanna 11/11.

Johanna ‏@UnterdenTeppich
UK cover-up did it again. Arrest two obvious predators, discredit the witnesses and point the gullible in the wrong direction #paedo #savile
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Gosh - where have we seen that before?


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Post by tigger on 12.11.12 9:20


It's a classic, 'main witness had history of psychotic fantasy and alcoholism'. They don't vary the formula much do they?

What about the perpetrators? Do they never suffer from either psychosis or alcoholism? Of course not, they're victims of a bungled investigation. Dear, dear, getting this deja vu feeling all the time now! spin

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Post by Guest on 12.11.12 9:45

Here is a post I posted last night on the child abuse scandal thread ....



According to the blogs and links below it is alledged David Rose = Johann Hari





In September 2011 "David Rose" was shown to be Johann Hari.[61]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari





The tale of Mr Hari and Dr Rose



A false and malicious identity is admitted.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/09/hari-rose-wikipedia-admitted




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Post by Guest on 12.11.12 10:00

Another blog from David Allen Green as Jack of Kent.

http://jackofkent.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/who-is-david-rose.html

He says that Johann Hari is not the David Rose who writes for the Mail on Sunday.
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Post by Guest on 12.11.12 11:39

Further to my last post, this is David Rose's LinkedIn profile.

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/david-rose/b/499/b0a

Having read some of his articles, it would be reassuring to think that they were the work of the juvenile joker Johann Hari but sadly there seems to be no doubt that they are not.
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Post by Gillyspot on 12.11.12 18:39

There are 2 David Rose's at the Daily Mail

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@DRoseMoS Deputy News Editor, Mail on Sunday. Formerly of The Times.

Who tweeted" There is No - not all me. There's another David Rose, freelance who writes for Mail on Sunday (and is ex-Observer etc)."

The freelance David Rose IS Johann Hari IMO. I tweeted to @DRoseMoS yesterday to confirm this. No response as yet but he hasn't been on twitter since.

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A rose by any other name.....

Post by Guest on 13.11.12 9:51

I can't understand how David Rose (the one who co-wrote the awful article about Steve Messham and one of the worst articles I have ever seen insulting the Portuguese police) could be the same person as Johann Hari.

The former is at least 52 years old as he went to university in 1978 and the latter is 33 though looks like a schoolboy from his picture on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari
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Post by Gillyspot on 13.11.12 18:20

Jean wrote:I can't understand how David Rose (the one who co-wrote the awful article about Steve Messham and one of the worst articles I have ever seen insulting the Portuguese police) could be the same person as Johann Hari.

The former is at least 52 years old as he went to university in 1978 and the latter is 33 though looks like a schoolboy from his picture on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari

There are 2 David Rose's that write for Mail on Sunday. One you have seen is Deputy Legal Editory - didn't write this story. Freelance David Rose (came from Observer) did. Does this make sense?

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Post by aiyoyo on 13.11.12 22:23

It would make better sense that it must be the freelance one who wrote that awful story about Steve Messham.

Just goes to show not all freelancers operate on same responsibility level and can be unreliable without having to face any adverse consequences that a full time journalist might face in the same situation.

Remind me of another unreliable freelancer turned owner who now runs "Oily Press" in Spain.
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