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Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?

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Post by Newintown on 06.11.12 18:44

@annabel wrote:(SAFM
RADIO WAS THREATENED TODAY WITH LEGAL ACTION IF THEY WENT AHEAD WITH
INTERVIEWING ME, AT 11AM ON THE MADELEINE MC CANN COVER-UP, AND DNA
PLANTING BY PORTUGUESE POLICE) - They pulled the interview........

Disappointing, but also nice to know I am on the right track. Sorry for that, would of loved to upload theinterview.

Well, that was no surprise, was it. If anyone can come up with any evidence that the radio was going to even give him an interview, that would be interesting.

SB seems to be living in a world of his own making, thinking he's Batman/the Incredible Hunk/the Invisible Man/Morse/Frost/Columbo all rolled into one. I always thought I was like Twiggy in the 1960's but it took me to the 1970's to realise that I was more like Stumpy!

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Re: Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?

Post by ShuBob on 06.11.12 18:49

It could be that no such interview was ever planned in the first place.

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Post by Guest on 06.11.12 23:51

I've e-mailed SAfm to ask if there was an interview scheduled and, if so, why it was cancelled. If I get a reply, I'll let everyone know.
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Post by aiyoyo on 07.11.12 3:45

Likely scenario is this:

He contacted SAFM, they agreed at least to speak to him (to see what he's in his bag so to speak) so he got all excited and shot from the hip.

But after the station had a preliminary chat with him, they realised he's a badly scripted fairy tale that isnt going to go anywhere except attracts libel, so wisely they told him SORRY ...........

We wont hear the end from SB yet.........just wait ....
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Post by Angelique on 07.11.12 8:33

@aiyoyo wrote:Likely scenario is this:

He contacted SAFM, they agreed at least to speak to him (to see what he's in his bag so to speak) so he got all excited and shot from the hip.

But after the station had a preliminary chat with him, they realised he's a badly scripted fairy tale that isnt going to go anywhere except attracts libel, so wisely they told him SORRY ...........

We wont hear the end from SB yet.........just wait ....

Yes - this is exactly what I think SB did but whether he expected the rejection or not I don't know. I am trying to work out what his next move would be though, if he now withdraws having pushed his idea of McCann cover up and planting DNA as far as it will go, who is going to appear on the scene next.

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Post by winjoy on 07.11.12 23:55

Jean wrote:I've e-mailed SAfm to ask if there was an interview scheduled and, if so, why it was cancelled. If I get a reply, I'll let everyone know.

It will be very interesting to hear whether there was any foundation in the claim that SB was to be interviewed by SAFM, so I do hope they reply to you Jean!

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Post by jozi on 08.11.12 18:23

@Deane wrote:I feel a certain lawyer whose behaviour can be seen to be outragous could be feeding SB poison against the PJ. Maybe the lawyer had more "visions", SB's claims against Dr Amaral are sickening.
To have the balls to attack Tony on his strategy and then to make such libellous claims against named people, well he is either unhinged or under the influence of "something", imo.

I think you could be right, the loonly lawyer has said it all before

SB,,,,,,has never said the Mcs killed and buried Maddie in Murrats garden , just us thinking thats who he was refering to !!! Remember the high profile Paedofile gang who Gerry said was responsible for abducting Maddie ?

Mmm, IMO, SB is pointing his arrows at Dr Amaral and the Potuguese Police of being invoved with the gang who buried the body in Murats garden, the police knew Murat was not involved ???
Anyway they take DNA and blood from the cadaver to frame the Mcs and bury the body again.

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Post by aiyoyo on 10.04.13 16:52

Not a dickie bird from SB!
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Re: Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?

Post by Guest on 10.04.13 16:56

He's saying plenty on his Facebook account if anyone wants a laugh! Not the bit about his neighbour being killed; that is sad.
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DON'T ALL RUSH!

Post by Guest on 12.06.13 20:18

http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/DIGGING_FOR_MADELEINE_MCCANN_CAMPAIGN_The_Murat_rear_driveway/?rc=fb&pb=14

Somehow I don't think that Bonnybraes and the rest of her motley crew will be putting their names to this.

Someone has let Stephen off the leash again!
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Post by Guest on 30.06.13 7:32

@aiyoyo wrote:Not a dickie bird from SB!  

 Here we are aiyoyo

Madeleine McCann is likely under Murat driveway — Excavate immediately!
Posted by admin On June - 30 - 2013
Chelsea Hoffman


Many of you are aware of my strong suspicions that Madeleine McCann was murdered, and that she was never truly missing. Of course, I am not the only person who has this theory, but one man has sleuthed his way into a theory that is too frightening not to explore. Stephen Birch believes that Maddie is located under the driveway of Robert Murat — a man who has already been cleared of suspicion in the abduction of the British tot. Stephen believes he found these remains during a search of the Murat property using specific equipment that showed anomalies beneath the surface. The big problem with this discovery, however, is that nobody appears to be willing to excavate the driveway. Why?
Stephen Birch illegally examined the driveway belonging to Robert Murat — something he admits to doing — but he has good reason. He chose to leak his findings after returning to South Africafrom Portugal. For that, he deserves a world of thanks.
We need to push for this property to be excavated. Officials both in Portugal and with Scotland Yard need to stop ignoring the very obvious anomaly located beneath the surface of Murat’s driveway. If the anomaly turns out to be something unrelated to the McCann case, then so be it, but until this driveway is excavated, we will likely never know. Please watch the video below for a better understanding of what Birch discovered:

Read more http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=12845

Why don't they just excavate and put the is she or isn't she buried there to bed?
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Post by Guest on 30.06.13 8:56

It is difficult to know how Chelsea Hoffman can take Stephen Birch seriously as she claims to have spoken to him - or more precisely, been spoken at by him.

Newer members may not be aware of his postings on this site - including those in the name of LEACHATE as well as Stephen Birch.

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Post by aiyoyo on 30.06.13 9:47

Cherry Blossom wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:Not a dickie bird from SB!  

 Here we are aiyoyo

Madeleine McCann is likely under Murat driveway — Excavate immediately!
Posted by admin On June - 30 - 2013
Chelsea Hoffman


Many of you are aware of my strong suspicions that Madeleine McCann was murdered, and that she was never truly missing. Of course, I am not the only person who has this theory, but one man has sleuthed his way into a theory that is too frightening not to explore. Stephen Birch believes that Maddie is located under the driveway of Robert Murat — a man who has already been cleared of suspicion in the abduction of the British tot. Stephen believes he found these remains during a search of the Murat property using specific equipment that showed anomalies beneath the surface. The big problem with this discovery, however, is that nobody appears to be willing to excavate the driveway. Why?
Stephen Birch illegally examined the driveway belonging to Robert Murat — something he admits to doing — but he has good reason. He chose to leak his findings after returning to South Africafrom Portugal. For that, he deserves a world of thanks.
We need to push for this property to be excavated. Officials both in Portugal and with Scotland Yard need to stop ignoring the very obvious anomaly located beneath the surface of Murat’s driveway. If the anomaly turns out to be something unrelated to the McCann case, then so be it, but until this driveway is excavated, we will likely never know. Please watch the video below for a better understanding of what Birch discovered:

Read more http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=12845

Why don't they just excavate and put the is she or isn't she buried there to bed?

Barking, as usual!

They must think Portugal Police are bunch of nincompoops!

Freaking incroyable they are still singing from this hymn sheet.
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Re: Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?

Post by Guest on 30.06.13 9:59

I must admit I was somewhat intrigued at the beginning of the Birch story. However, I put it in the loony-bin, when he purported that the PJ had found the body, but left it there after extracting DNA to use a month later in the rented car ... tease 
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Post by bristow on 30.06.13 12:19

As much as SB sounds a bit odd I DO think that the site of the anomaly should be excavated.
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Post by Guest on 01.07.13 10:32

If you know Madeleine was buried under Murat's drive and you wanted to get that information out into the public domain without exposing yourself to the wrath of the McCanns, you become some random nutter with a bodyfinding machine.


The McCanns can't shut him up now without drawing unwanted attention and everyone who follows the case is now aware that there is an "anomaly" in the ground under the drive.


Of course he might really be some random nutter with a bodyfinding machine.
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Post by stumo on 01.07.13 18:46

if you want to know if there's a body under the drive then send in the dogs...
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Post by tigger on 01.07.13 18:50

Poe wrote:If you know Madeleine was buried under Murat's drive and you wanted to get that information out into the public domain without exposing yourself to the wrath of the McCanns, you become some random nutter with a bodyfinding machine.


The McCanns can't shut him up now without drawing unwanted attention and everyone who follows the case is now aware that there is an "anomaly" in the ground under the drive.


Of course he might really be some random nutter with a bodyfinding machine.

There's no better body finding machine than a dog's nose. The dogs have been to Casa Liliana the PJ's dogs as well as Eddie and Keela. Nothing.

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Post by Grande Finale on 06.07.13 3:44

@tigger wrote:

There's no better body finding machine than a dog's nose. The dogs have been to Casa Liliana the PJ's dogs as well as Eddie and Keela. Nothing.
Oldest trick in the book wait until the police clear the ground and then bury your victim ! GA thought the body may have been frozen for weeks.

The child has been missing 6 years and the whole world has been searching, 100M away someone says something has been buried with a spade and has been deteriorating ,(The operator who did the original survey for the police agrees).

Just obtain the neccesary paperwork and dig the spot!!

I have done some basic research into this as I knew very little about it, at first I thought it may show twin pipes or cables underground, but other scans didn't look like this one. It seems to me it is something buried and deteriorating 1/2 meter deep in a 1 meter long hole, my guess is it could be a large dog or a small child.

Just obtain the neccesary paperwork and dig the spot!!
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Casa Liliana?

Post by marconi on 06.07.13 4:44

Oh no!

# Ther's a hole in the bucket,

dear Lisa, dear Lisa, ##

ther's a hole # in the bucket,

dear Lisa,

a hole..  #

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Post by tigger on 06.07.13 6:06

@Grande Finale wrote:
@tigger wrote:

There's no better body finding machine than a dog's nose. The dogs have been to Casa Liliana the PJ's dogs as well as Eddie and Keela. Nothing.
Oldest trick in the book wait until the police clear the ground and then bury your victim ! GA thought the body may have been frozen for weeks.

The child has been missing 6 years and the whole world has been searching, 100M away someone says something has been buried with a spade and has been deteriorating ,(The operator who did the original survey for the police agrees).

Just obtain the neccesary paperwork and dig the spot!!

I have done some basic research into this as I knew very little about it, at first I thought it may show twin pipes or cables underground, but other scans didn't look like this one. It seems to me it is something buried and deteriorating 1/2 meter deep in a 1 meter long hole, my guess is it could be a large dog or a small child.

Just obtain the neccesary paperwork and dig the spot!!

a) Eddie and Keela were invited at short notice at the end of July so planning a burial after the dogs had been isn't logical.
b) The scans published by Birch could just as well be from his backyard - there is no proof and I don't believe he's ever been in Casa Liliana's garden.
c) it is not possible - I expect your research was based on CSI TV series - to determine that a 'small child or dog' is an anomaly on the scan , neither is it possible to determine by geophysics whether such a body would be detoriating. You'll have to do a bit more research.
d) Birch never divulged the frequency he was using, probably didn't know.
e) the six 'experts' who all agreed with Birch have never been produced by him, neither has Birch divulged what they are experts in. Confidence tricks?

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Post by russiandoll on 24.07.13 13:30

from today's Correo da Manha newspaper :   [ did my best with google translate to make it more comprehensible]


Maddie: Petition to dig in the backyard of Murat
The South African researcher Stephen Birch has created an online petition to excavate a yard at the home of Robert Murat, in Praia da Luz



It is in this courtyard, built after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the South African businessman believes is the key evidence to solve the case.
Stephen Birch has not given up the investigation into the disappearance of Maddie and created the petition ' Digging for Madeleine '(Digging for Madeleine) to press the governments of Portugal and England to take what Birch believes to be "a fundamental step to discover what happened in night of Maddie's disappearance in Praia da Luz, in 2007. "
In the Algarve property of Robert Murat, called 'Casa Liliana' Birch believes that "there is a way to reveal hidden secrets," because, according to what he found, "there is something buried on this land." The entrepreneur alerted to this situation for the first time in 2012, stating the importance of carrying out excavations to discover what is buried there, "after more than two years of his own research," a discovery which was supported by experts .
The courtyard referred to by the South African businessman and his team was built at the rear of the Murat property in 2008 - less than a year after the disappearance of Maddie - and "currently works as a new addition to the 'Casa Liliana.'" According to Birch, " Kate McCann herself, Maddie's mother knows that her daughter's body is buried in the Algarve . "

Since this discovery, Stephen Birch has tried to "act with the Portuguese authorities and the Portuguese Attorney General to have excavations carried out on the site. " At that time, he even made a video where he explained his findings and challenged Murat to allow excavations on the  property, but without success. Now, the next step is to publish the petition 'Digging for Madeleine McCann' worldwide.
Robert Murat was the first suspect that the Judicial Police identified the disappearance of Maddie, but was ultimately cleared during the Portuguese investigation.
The South African businessman told CdM  "regarding the petition which has been created recently, the goal of one million signatures will not be difficult to achieve given the media coverage of the case."
 The petition will be available for everyone to sign and will be delivered to the Portuguese Government, the British Government, the Court of Justice of the European Union and even ... the Vatican.
In Portugal, petitions must have four thousand signatures in order to be discussed with the Assembly.  At the time of publication of this news the petition had 630 signatures.


[ will check on the one million signatures, this must be an error ?]

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Again...

Post by Ayniia on 28.11.13 22:27



I'm sorry if this was posted already,
I was trying to watch it till the end, but I can't stomach that.
One would think Stephen would already know basic things about the case, but seems he doesn't. Again, talking about planted DNA ... My question would be: wouldn't it be easier to plant DNA on Murat than on the Mccanns?!
Among many other questions of course!
What I found most interesting in the half of the video I managed to force myself to watch, was the many times he refers to: Me, my findings, my findings being talked worldwide ( even stating how many articles were published ),correio da manhã newspaper having such interest in my story, me, me, me...
I feel like as Portuguese I feel like I must explain, Correio is the most sold newspaper here but it's certainly also known for being the one who grabs all the "nutters " stories.
All IMHO of course.

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Post by ekatae on 28.11.13 22:30

This is most interesting... must research and log out now.... did he mention two men on a balcony at any point?

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Post by Ayniia on 28.11.13 22:32

@ekatae wrote:This is most interesting... must research and log out now.... did he mention two men on a balcony at any point?
He did, Raj Balu and Neil Barry

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