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Post by jd on 11.09.12 2:16

On winning his first Grand Slam! Fantastic and so deserved

The first Brit to win a Grand Slam for 76 long years.....Coincidently on 10th September too!

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Post by Ribisl on 11.09.12 5:16

A magnificent victory, so courageously fought. He has truly come of age and joins the titans of the game.
Hamilton, Rory, Murray - what a great weekend for the British sporting achievements!

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Post by Tony Bennett on 11.09.12 5:41

Yes, as an Englishman, I'd like to offer hearty congratulations to this Scot.

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Post by jd on 17.09.12 0:39

Well done Andy Murray. A real inspiration. Facing death as an 8 year old but to go on and achieve an Olympic Gold and a grand slam as the first Brit for 76 years, especially in an era where there are 3 all time Greats in the sport is truly inspirational and brilliant. He deserves all the accolade and many people in this country could learn



He's not usually known for his warm smile and cheer, but Andy Murray couldn't stop grinning as he went on a walkabout in his home town of Dunblane.

Thousands of Murray fans lined the streets to welcome their local hero back home as the US Open and Olympic champion shook hands and signed autographs, looking more relaxed than ever.

Murray's grandmother, Shirley Erskine, described her grandson's US Open victory as a milestone in his professional career, getting "the monkey off his back" in his desperation to win a grand slam.

Judging by the laughter and warmth from Murray at today's homecoming she was right - the transformation in his demeanour was clear for all to see.

He was in no rush, this was his homecoming and he took hours to sign autographs and thanked so many fans for their loyal support.

Eileen McGlynn from Stirling, who met Andy on the parade and got his autograph, told Sky News: "He was just full of smiles and looked so happy.

"I think the combination of finally getting a Grand Slam title under his belt and then this, the support he's got today from his home town, must be just so emotional for him."

Along the narrow, winding High Street, bedecked with bunting, union flags and saltires, thousands of Murray fans chanted: "Let's go Andy, let's go," as he walked by laughing and joking with the crowds.

An hour before he arrived the heavens opened, soaking the crowds, but even the Dunblane rain failed to dampen spirits. The crowd's support and enthusiasm was unrelenting - rather like the downpour.

Murray posed for photographs at the golden post box, specially painted after his Olympic gold medal win, before heading to the tennis courts at Dunblane Sports Club where his tennis journey began as a child all those years ago.

Andy and his younger brother Jamie used to play tennis at the club as small children, taught by their mother and former Scotland tennis coach, Judy Murray.

Andy and Judy took time out to put some young Murray hopefuls through their paces with a spot of mini tennis.

While chatting to local children at Dunblane Sports Club and signing yet more autographs, Andy described the homecoming as an emotional experience.

He told Sky News: "Everyone has been just so amazing, it's been such an incredible day."

Before saying goodbye to his home town Andy was told he is likely to be honoured with the freedom of the city of Stirling, an accolade he will treasure alongside his Grand Slam trophy and double Olympic medals.

http://news.sky.com/story/985810/thousands-greet-andy-murray-in-dunblane

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Post by listener on 17.09.12 0:55

@jd wrote:Well done Andy Murray. A real inspiration. Facing death as an 8 year old but to go on and achieve an Olympic Gold and a grand slam as the first Brit for 76 years, especially in an era where there are 3 all time Greats in the sport is truly inspirational and brilliant. He deserves all the accolade and many people in this country could learn



He's not usually known for his warm smile and cheer, but Andy Murray couldn't stop grinning as he went on a walkabout in his home town of Dunblane.

Thousands of Murray fans lined the streets to welcome their local hero back home as the US Open and Olympic champion shook hands and signed autographs, looking more relaxed than ever.

Murray's grandmother, Shirley Erskine, described her grandson's US Open victory as a milestone in his professional career, getting "the monkey off his back" in his desperation to win a grand slam.

Judging by the laughter and warmth from Murray at today's homecoming she was right - the transformation in his demeanour was clear for all to see.

He was in no rush, this was his homecoming and he took hours to sign autographs and thanked so many fans for their loyal support.

Eileen McGlynn from Stirling, who met Andy on the parade and got his autograph, told Sky News: "He was just full of smiles and looked so happy.

"I think the combination of finally getting a Grand Slam title under his belt and then this, the support he's got today from his home town, must be just so emotional for him."

Along the narrow, winding High Street, bedecked with bunting, union flags and saltires, thousands of Murray fans chanted: "Let's go Andy, let's go," as he walked by laughing and joking with the crowds.

An hour before he arrived the heavens opened, soaking the crowds, but even the Dunblane rain failed to dampen spirits. The crowd's support and enthusiasm was unrelenting - rather like the downpour.

Murray posed for photographs at the golden post box, specially painted after his Olympic gold medal win, before heading to the tennis courts at Dunblane Sports Club where his tennis journey began as a child all those years ago.

Andy and his younger brother Jamie used to play tennis at the club as small children, taught by their mother and former Scotland tennis coach, Judy Murray.

Andy and Judy took time out to put some young Murray hopefuls through their paces with a spot of mini tennis.

While chatting to local children at Dunblane Sports Club and signing yet more autographs, Andy described the homecoming as an emotional experience.

He told Sky News: "Everyone has been just so amazing, it's been such an incredible day."

Before saying goodbye to his home town Andy was told he is likely to be honoured with the freedom of the city of Stirling, an accolade he will treasure alongside his Grand Slam trophy and double Olympic medals.

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Post by Miraflores on 17.09.12 8:12

and a grand slam as the first Brit for 76 years,

Not quite - first British male winner. British women have won Wimbledon 4 times since 1936 and have won nine other Grand slams, doing particularly well at the French open. Admittedly, there has been a dearth of wins since 1977, but this record puts the British men to shame.
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Post by PeterMac on 17.09.12 8:29

I wish someone would teach our sportsmen and women to smile, and to say sensible things when they are interviewed.

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Post by Ribisl on 17.09.12 21:39

@PeterMac wrote:I wish someone would teach our sportsmen and women to smile, and to say sensible things when they are interviewed.

I find Murray very sensible, articulate, analytical and often self-critical in his post match interviews which they are obliged to give even when they are feeling like crawling into a hole. Do you want him to SMILE as well?! No chance of that now he's got Lendl as his coach and mentor sarcastic Federer is the perfect PR man of tennis and the best player ever imho to boot.

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Post by PeterMac on 17.09.12 22:48

One of the things you must learn as a sports - person is
Always be the first to congratulate the opponent, whether you have won, lost, or been disqualified.
When you are interviewed, whether you have won, lost, or been disqualified, ALWAYS say how tough the game. / race / opposition was. Praise the opponent to the hilt. Talk about him / her / it . Not about you.
Firstly it is gracious, secondly it actually boosts your own position.
And you ALWAYS feel humble to have won, lost, or been disqualified, against such an outstanding opponent.

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Post by Guest on 17.09.12 23:10

Slightly OT but I am reminded of one of my tennis coaches lessons: you only go to the net to make a point or shake hands with your opponent. laughat
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Post by PeterMac on 18.09.12 7:49

Quite. And you are the first to go to the net to shake hands.
No nonsense kneeling on the ground, kissing the turf, praising the Lord, waving to the crowd, doing a war dance, running about squealing . . .
Go to the net and offer your hand. And sincerely !
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Post by aiyoyo on 18.09.12 17:29

No nonsense kneeling on the ground, kissing the turf, praising the Lord, waving to the crowd, doing a war dance, running about squealing . .

Footballers are known to do all that nonsense, kneeling on the ground, sliding onto the ground, punch air, dance, headstand, cartwheel, flip up their jersey, run amok half the field before jumping onto their fellow players.

I may be wrong but I always associate Tennis as sport of the educated middle class; while football is played on the streets by bored all and sundry who have a ball in hand, hence a sport for the common people if you like.
So rightfully one would expect different behavior pattern from the two types of sportsmen/women but what is apparent is same behavioral pattern.

Alright, so it's unfair to compare the two because football is a collective game and a goal is not personal achievement and there is no net to walk up to shake your opponent's hand but i think the behavior of sportsmen/women in this country is down to the culture difference from other countries. In how they are indoctrinated during training to acknowledge their opponent's talent and to praise it to the hilt.

Having said that Andy Murray's few years of professional training in Spain did not make an iota of difference, so it seems culture acquired from young is not easy to discard.

Personally, I put interview-mannerism-cum-handling down to upbringing nothing to do with the sports.
A well brought up sportsperson will bring honour to his/her country in their post winning speech, while badly brought up one shows up the country.





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Post by PeterMac on 18.09.12 17:35

It may also be about the money. For most of us "sport" is about playing the game, not about huge cash prizes.

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Post by tigger on 18.09.12 17:43

Ian Botham complained about their PR or Manager requiring them to do 'high fives' after a four or a six ball. He went along with it I think, but hated it.
But it was done on instruction from 'above'. Idiotic! Because the public would like cricket better if it was more like what?

There is an Eric Idle sketch as a football commentator where he only goes through the match by each embrace, full on the lips kiss etc. Very funny!

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Post by Guest on 18.09.12 17:47

@PeterMac wrote:It may also be about the money. For most of us "sport" is about playing the game, not about huge cash prizes.
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That may be exactly "it". Sport in my vocabulary = may the best one win. No financial gain, just sportive achievement.
Which is BTW how the Olympic games started.

Anyone remember Dutch athlete Fanny Blankers Koen? Coming back with a serious number of gold medals, she was celebrated at her home town and got ... a bike.
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Post by aiyoyo on 18.09.12 19:14

Geez, these days for the contracted professional footballer it's about company provided car of the *sportive* or *soft-top* kind if I am not wrong.

It's all mercenary not in the spirit of sports at all.
Footballers are paid a sinful lot of money so the company shouldn't have to spoil them by providing them with company cars to top it all. Where's the limit with these perks and incentives.

When you think about it, a lot of people who spent years getting an education and trained in a field to become doctors, engineers, police, or whatever, that is of service to the mankind simply do not command that kind of pay. Even a CEO of conglomerate does not earn that kind of money a footballer earns. And where do clubs claw back the money they invested in players, from the spectators of course.

Its a sinful lot of money for a father and son to go and watch a football match these days.
To compound the problem tickets are sold by per season instead of per game, so anyone without the means can forget about it.

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Post by PeterMac on 18.09.12 22:34

The commercial game of football has long since moved from "sport" to "show-biz" hence the ludicrous salaries.

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Post by aquila on 19.09.12 7:54

@aiyoyo wrote:Geez, these days for the contracted professional footballer it's about company provided car of the *sportive* or *soft-top* kind if I am not wrong.

It's all mercenary not in the spirit of sports at all.
Footballers are paid a sinful lot of money so the company shouldn't have to spoil them by providing them with company cars to top it all. Where's the limit with these perks and incentives.

When you think about it, a lot of people who spent years getting an education and trained in a field to become doctors, engineers, police, or whatever, that is of service to the mankind simply do not command that kind of pay. Even a CEO of conglomerate does not earn that kind of money a footballer earns. And where do clubs claw back the money they invested in players, from the spectators of course.

Its a sinful lot of money for a father and son to go and watch a football match these days.
To compound the problem tickets are sold by per season instead of per game, so anyone without the means can forget about it.







For those who can't afford the ludicrous cost of attending a match they have to pay satellite television companies to watch it live on tv. The football strips are changed with alarming frequency and the cost of wearing 'the latest' football kit of your favourite team is beyond most people's means but the marketing to young people is severe (no wonder Chinese rip-off merchandise is popular). Never mind, it makes a lot of people very rich, and if you watch it only on tv the sponsors are really happy, the 'sports' bars with big televisions make a tidy profit out of it too. I can't stand football, have never liked it but it's a national sport and is unavailable to a large majority of the public. Television companies make huge amounts of money - not just from the matches - but from the endless drivel they spout before, during and after a match - and it all comes with advertising. Newspapers do well out of it too. Wayne Rooney must have made a mint for them.

There is another much more sinister arm to football for me. Do young people want to become great footballers for the sport? or do they want to become rich and famous, drive fast cars, live a swish lifestyle with lots of good looking women on their arms and enjoy public adoration/celebrity status? I'm going for the latter.

Oh my, what happened to sport?
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Post by PeterMac on 19.09.12 8:39

Some sport is still alive and kicking , as it were.
Look at the public playing fields, the Embankment in Nottingham for example, on a Sunday morning and you will see local teams playing, pub versus pub, youth club versus youth club. No money involved, and fairly reasonable standards of sportsmanship.
My sport, rowing, is still amateur, (apart from the top Olympic certainties,)

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Post by aquila on 19.09.12 9:41

@PeterMac wrote:Some sport is still alive and kicking , as it were.
Look at the public playing fields, the Embankment in Nottingham for example, on a Sunday morning and you will see local teams playing, pub versus pub, youth club versus youth club. No money involved, and fairly reasonable standards of sportsmanship.
My sport, rowing, is still amateur, (apart from the top Olympic certainties,)

My (spectator) sport is rugby. Rowing (you really do need to live near water), tennis and equine sports are restricted (and always have been) to the middle and upper classes. Athletics are open to anyone. State schools devalued sports day as it might disappoint losers. What happened to sport?
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Post by PeterMac on 19.09.12 9:49

I must challenge your perception of rowing, tennis, and riding being class specific. Look at Sir Steven Redgrave's background. And a lot of others. Carl Hestor learned to ride on a donkey, bareback. What sets them apart is the determination not to be dominated by perceptions.

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Post by tigger on 19.09.12 13:43

@PeterMac wrote:I must challenge your perception of rowing, tennis, and riding being class specific. Look at Sir Steven Redgrave's background. And a lot of others. Carl Hestor learned to ride on a donkey, bareback. What sets them apart is the determination not to be dominated by perceptions.

There was quite a famous and bad tempered 'common' man who won lots of prizes in show jumping. Forgotten his name altogether.

My sport too, is still amateur and the UK was doing fairly well in the Olympics in fencing until the Eastern Bloc countries got going and treated their fencers as professionals.
It is also seen as an elite sport, but in fact in the 70's it was an under twenty boys team from Catford that was the best in the world and one of them won the World U 20 championship - he was left handed because his right hand was almost absent due to a birth defect. Neither he nor his marvellous parents ever thought of him as disabled - the parent-teacher association at Brownhill School was excellent and part of the reason for the team's success.
Real sport, real players, real people. Rob Bruniges, great sport, no money....

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Post by aquila on 19.09.12 15:46

@tigger wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:I must challenge your perception of rowing, tennis, and riding being class specific. Look at Sir Steven Redgrave's background. And a lot of others. Carl Hestor learned to ride on a donkey, bareback. What sets them apart is the determination not to be dominated by perceptions.

There was quite a famous and bad tempered 'common' man who won lots of prizes in show jumping. Forgotten his name altogether.

My sport too, is still amateur and the UK was doing fairly well in the Olympics in fencing until the Eastern Bloc countries got going and treated their fencers as professionals.
It is also seen as an elite sport, but in fact in the 70's it was an under twenty boys team from Catford that was the best in the world and one of them won the World U 20 championship - he was left handed because his right hand was almost absent due to a birth defect. Neither he nor his marvellous parents ever thought of him as disabled - the parent-teacher association at Brownhill School was excellent and part of the reason for the team's success.
Real sport, real players, real people. Rob Bruniges, great sport, no money....

Tigger, I think you are thinking of Harvey Smith. PeterMac I didn't mean to infer those sports were entirely class specific it's just if you look at the population of state schools there aren't too many of those sports on offer.
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Post by PeterMac on 19.09.12 17:13

That is of course a different matter. But outside schools there are clubs and societies which anyone can join if they have the genuine interest and dedication.
And at this point we then have to look at the parents and their willingness to enthuse their children to get out and do something, rather than sit at a computer screen or TV for hours on end.
And at risk of inciting the thought police as we did last time - that can be a class thing. It needn't be, but it often is.

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Post by aquila on 19.09.12 17:53

@PeterMac wrote:That is of course a different matter. But outside schools there are clubs and societies which anyone can join if they have the genuine interest and dedication.
And at this point we then have to look at the parents and their willingness to enthuse their children to get out and do something, rather than sit at a computer screen or TV for hours on end.
And at risk of inciting the thought police as we did last time - that can be a class thing. It needn't be, but it often is.

I agree with what you are saying but don't you think it's a sad thing that we have readily available sports such as swimming, athletics, rugby, football etc that are half heartedly offered in state schools? We have so many facilities for these type of sports (unless you count the selling off of school playing fields) and yet there isn't a sport culture. We've had the Olympic Games and there are sporting facilities galore now in the London area. The hype will die down within a month or two and those facilities and the promotion of sport will fade by Christmas when the latest computer gadget becomes available. If I had a young child in a school that didn't have a sports day I'd not send my child to that school. I'm rambling a bit. I think it's time for the UK government to get kids off their bums (compulsory PE in school whether you like it or not) and get sporting competition back into our culture.

I'm editing to add at the risk of being thought a fascist or an old fart that I don't care if 'Johnny' hasn't got a pair of appropriate shoes to play football, I don't care if 'Rosy' has an excuse either. The majority of our kids are capable of sport. The majority of our children don't have ailments. The mental health of our children is better in the open air with sport.
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