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Post by Guest on 01.09.12 3:43

By ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Published: 4 hrs ago


THE parents of Madeleine McCann are hoping to win a £1million libel payout this month from a former cop who claims they lied about their daughter’s disappearance.


Goncalo Amaral, 55, was the police boss who led the initial search for Maddie after her abduction in May 2007 in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

He went on to write a book sold worldwide in which he claimed her parents covered up her death from an accident or overdose of sedatives.

Kate and Gerry, both 44, from Rothley, Leics, said the slurs left them “totally destroyed”.

Their lawyer, Isabel Duarte, told The Sun: “We reasonably expect compensation for the dreadful damages this book has brought the family.”

The case is due to start in Lisbon on the 13th.

Any damages will go towards the hunt for Maddie, say the McCanns.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4515088/Maddie-McCann-parents-1m-bid-over-lies.html#ixzz25BLCimyo

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Post by uppatoffee on 01.09.12 6:25

I think there is a noticeable change of tone in this article. It's much shorter and less inflammatory than her usual offerings. Amaral is only referred to as the police boss, so mention of sardine munching or being discredited, which is normally a cert.

It is interesting she has also given details about the claims against them and mentioned the book, without making any comment on how much money Amaral is supposed to have made from it.

Is this a sign of the tide beginning to turn?
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Post by PeterMac on 01.09.12 8:49

Yes, interesting change of tone. I think
Lazerelli is normally incapable of referring to Dr Amaral without her normal Tourette's "Disgraced Ex-Cop".
Interesting that she spells out the possibilities, without saying they are "ludicrous".
And "reasonably expect" rather than "Demand".

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Post by Guest on 01.09.12 9:34

In the Daily Star, short and sweet, ...................


MADDIE PARENTS’ LIBEL BID



Missing: Madeleine McCann

ABOVE: Missing: Madeleine McCann


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If they win the case every penny they receive in damages will go into the Madeleine Fund

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Spokesman Clarence Mitchell



1st September 2012


By Jerry Lawton



MADELEINE McCann’s parents hope to win a £1million libel payout this month from the ex-police chief who claimed they lied about their daughter’s disappearance.






Any damages awarded to Kate and Gerry McCann will be spent on the global search for the youngster.



A court hearing is due to start on September 13 in Lisbon. The McCanns’ are still considering whether to appear to face




Goncalo Amaral, 55, who wrote in his book The Truth Of The Lie that Madeleine was dead.




The McCanns’ lawyer Isabel Duarte said Kate and Gerry, both 44, of Rothley, Leics, were confident of victory.




And their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “If they win the case every penny they receive in damages will go into the Madeleine Fund.”


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/270014/Maddie-parents-libel-bid/

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Post by Miraflores on 01.09.12 9:37

The comments are interesting - not quite the full on sycophantic tone which is usually used.

I don't agree with the comment that they were just yards away and not down the street. Down the street is exactly where they were. If they had been dining on the balcony of one of the other Tapas crew then that comment would be valid.
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Post by Cristobell on 01.09.12 9:50

If anyone looks broken, devastated and hounded, its poor Goncalo, the McCanns have thrived.
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Post by uppatoffee on 01.09.12 9:55

Even the Daily Star article is fairly neutral, it even gives the name of Amaral's book.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 01.09.12 10:19

How many British newspapers (if any) will mention these two salient facts about the McCanns' libel action against Dr Goncalo Amaral?

1. OCTOBER 2010: McCanns defeated when the Portuguese Appeal Court upheld Dr Amaral's appeal against the banning of his book: The Court ordered his book to go back on sale, McCanns ORDERED TO PAY COSTS, Court said the banning was a BREACH OF DR AMARAL'S GUARANTEED RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH under the EUROPEAN CONVENTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS.

2. MARCH 2011: Portuguese Supreme Court heard the McCanns' appeal against the Appeal Court's ruling, AGAIN the McCanns LOST and the McCanns were AGAIN ordered to pay Amaral's costs.

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None of them will even mention these inconvenient FACTS

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 01.09.12 10:28

I'm hoping Mr Amaral's lawyers will bring ALL salient facts into court. I also hope the lawyers argue that in suing Amaral for libel/defamation that they are also accusing the PJ of the same by default, as Amarals theory is derived from the investigation and THE DOGS. His lawyer could also read out the statement by Leicestershire police that there is insufficient evidence to declare the McCanns innocent of involvement.

With what exists in the public domain, in documents produced by both Leicestershire and Portugese police, I would have thought any action brought by the McCanns could be shot down in flames in a heartbeat. I'm surprised any lawyers representing the Mc's would even consider their proposed actions as anywhere near win-able.

I cannot see how this isn't going to be game, set and match for Amaral. Merely reading out of a list of the Mc's lies re the fund, events in PdeL, refusal to co-operate, and so much more, should logically result in the case being thrown out of court and a hefty legs bill for the fund.

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Post by uppatoffee on 01.09.12 10:31

I should think that should the McCanns lose there is a good chance of at least one paper printing those facts. Having informed their readers of the court case, they would need to print the outcome.
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Post by Woofer on 01.09.12 10:31

@Cristobell wrote: If anyone looks broken, devastated and hounded, its poor Goncalo, the McCanns have thrived.

If the tabloids do report on this case, I hope they show pictures of how Goncalo looks now as everyone can see from the TV appearance he made on Querida Julia a couple of days ago.

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 01.09.12 10:58

Oh, also, would video snippets of the Mc's televised interviews where they have proven to outright lied, like the magical moment on Piers Morgan where they denied giving much emphasis to the whole coloboma issue, then juxtaposed with the marketing ploy comment and posters, t-shirts, song choice, Look for Me etc, be admissible as evidence to discredit the McCanns case?

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Post by Cristobell on 01.09.12 11:42

@Tony Bennett wrote:How many British newspapers (if any) will mention these two salient facts about the McCanns' libel action against Dr Goncalo Amaral?

1. OCTOBER 2010: McCanns defeated when the Portuguese Appeal Court upheld Dr Amaral's appeal against the banning of his book: The Court ordered his book to go back on sale, McCanns ORDERED TO PAY COSTS, Court said the banning was a BREACH OF DR AMARAL'S GUARANTEED RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH under the EUROPEAN CONVENTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS.

2. MARCH 2011: Portuguese Supreme Court heard the McCanns' appeal against the Appeal Court's ruling, AGAIN the McCanns LOST and the McCanns were AGAIN ordered to pay Amaral's costs.

My betting?

None of them will even mention these inconvenient FACTS



Hi Tony, I don't think they will be mentioned, they weren't at the time, so unlikely now.

Not sure how another court can award them damages, when two courts have said they have not been libelled and the book is back on sale.

SY have not come up with anything whatsoever to support their case. Also not sure how they can claim the book has had an adverse affect on the search for Madeleine. She remains the most high profile missing child in the world, not sure how they can prove no-one is searching as a result of GA's book.

As far as their lives being devastated is concerned, Gerry returned to full time work, Kate has recently been made Ambassador for Missing people and they assure us that the twins are thriving.

Returning to your original point Tony, I would have thought they should have abandoned their claim for damages following their losses in the Appeal Court and the Supreme Court. They may have had a strong case while the book was banned, but that is no longer the case. If I were Isabel, I would very worried that their wrath may turn against their legal advisors.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 01.09.12 11:50

@Cristobell wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:How many British newspapers (if any) will mention these two salient facts about the McCanns' libel action against Dr Goncalo Amaral?

1. OCTOBER 2010: McCanns defeated when the Portuguese Appeal Court upheld Dr Amaral's appeal against the banning of his book: The Court ordered his book to go back on sale, McCanns ORDERED TO PAY COSTS, Court said the banning was a BREACH OF DR AMARAL'S GUARANTEED RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH under the EUROPEAN CONVENTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS.

2. MARCH 2011: Portuguese Supreme Court heard the McCanns' appeal against the Appeal Court's ruling, AGAIN the McCanns LOST and the McCanns were AGAIN ordered to pay Amaral's costs.

My betting?

None of them will even mention these inconvenient FACTS



Hi Tony, I don't think they will be mentioned, they weren't at the time, so unlikely now.

Not sure how another court can award them damages, when two courts have said they have not been libelled and the book is back on sale.

SY have not come up with anything whatsoever to support their case. Also not sure how they can claim the book has had an adverse affect on the search for Madeleine. She remains the most high profile missing child in the world, not sure how they can prove no-one is searching as a result of GA's book.

As far as their lives being devastated is concerned, Gerry returned to full time work, Kate has recently been made Ambassador for Missing people and they assure us that the twins are thriving.

Returning to your original point Tony, I would have thought they should have abandoned their claim for damages following their losses in the Appeal Court and the Supreme Court. They may have had a strong case while the book was banned, but that is no longer the case. If I were Isabel, I would very worried that their wrath may turn against their legal advisors.
You could argue that the tide began to turn at that Appeal Court hearing in October 2010. One the tide had turned, even the great King Cnut (Canute) couldn't turn it

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Post by Woofer on 01.09.12 12:02

Cristobell - SY (courtesy Andy Redwood) have stated publicly that they examined the time-line forensicly and concluded there would have been a small opportunity for her to be taken but obviously this must be from the manufactured time-line of TM. If TM grab AR`s statement to back their case, the time-line could easily be discredited by a good lawyer, IMO.

SY have said that part of their team is reviewing from the possibility she is dead, so it still doesn`t conclude anything as yet.

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Post by jd on 01.09.12 12:15

Any damages will go towards the hunt for Maddie, say the McCanns.
How much? Just a mere 13% like the rest of the fund! Money towards the hunt?...pull the other one mccanns. None of it will go to the search, just like kate mccann never searched herself and never moved from their apartment but was busy deleting compromising calls from their mobiles instead! The McCanns are the only people that NEVER looked for Madeleine! All they have done is employed a couple of dodgy retired cops, very dodgy agencies (some in prison for fraud). One Agency immediately made a big song and dance of informing the world that they knew Madeleine was being held in Morocco and they were going to get her. When the Managing Director was asked how was it that a Detective Agency of their standing could make such a ridiculous assertion making it known ‘they knew Madeleine was held in Morocco and they were going to get her’. He tried to wriggle out of it but in the end he said ‘DON’T ASK ME. THAT’S THE PARENTS STRATEGY’.

Kate and Gerry, both 44, from Rothley, Leics, said the slurs left them “totally destroyed”
"slurs" “totally destroyed”...what utter and total crap. The "slurs" are facts...read the PJ files of their "own words', if anyone has made "slurs" it is the mccanns and their tapas friends themselves with their total inconsistent and contradictory words....their very own words are the foundations and cause of the "slurs"

And "totally destroyed"? thinking
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Who is really destroyed? The couple who have been elevated to celebrity status, the couple who enjoy VIP status wherever they go, the couple who are treated in the UK as royalty where nobody is allowed to dare say a word against them, the couple who have the powers of the UK giving them the most unprecedented support ever seen from every angle possible from a 'story' where there has never been one shred of evidence ...Or the man who has lost his family, lost his pension, had his assets frozen, a man in his retirement forced to live with his parents as he has had everything that he worked his whole life for taken away for purporting a theory based on 'Facts'...yes 'facts'! 'facts' that gerry mccann himself states he does not have a problem people purporting a theory with thinking

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Post by ShuBob on 01.09.12 12:32

@uppatoffee wrote:I should think that should the McCanns lose there is a good chance of at least one paper printing those facts. Having informed their readers of the court case, they would need to print the outcome.

You would hope so but remember the silence that greeted the overturning of the book ban after a good few British media outlets including the BBC had sent reporters to Lisbon to cover the initial case. Silence also greeted the McCanns' loss at the Supreme court.
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Post by Cristobell on 01.09.12 12:34

@Woofer wrote:Cristobell - SY (courtesy Andy Redwood) have stated publicly that they examined the time-line forensicly and concluded there would have been a small opportunity for her to be taken but obviously this must be from the manufactured time-line of TM. If TM grab AR`s statement to back their case, the time-line could easily be discredited by a good lawyer, IMO.

SY have said that part of their team is reviewing from the possibility she is dead, so it still doesn`t conclude anything as yet.



Hi Woofer, thank you, I hadn't seen that statement. That small window of opportunity certainly is a conundrum. If an abductor had been watching the family and the apartment for several days, why choose the moment when the father is standing outside of the apartment talking to a male friend? If we are to believe JT, he then walked past all 3 of them with a stolen child precariously balanced on his outstretched arms. One would have thought, he would have made some effort to conceal the child or at the very least, waited a few moments until the coast was clear before crossing that open, well lit road in front of them.
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Post by ShuBob on 01.09.12 12:37

@Cristobell wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:How many British newspapers (if any) will mention these two salient facts about the McCanns' libel action against Dr Goncalo Amaral?

1. OCTOBER 2010: McCanns defeated when the Portuguese Appeal Court upheld Dr Amaral's appeal against the banning of his book: The Court ordered his book to go back on sale, McCanns ORDERED TO PAY COSTS, Court said the banning was a BREACH OF DR AMARAL'S GUARANTEED RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH under the EUROPEAN CONVENTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS.

2. MARCH 2011: Portuguese Supreme Court heard the McCanns' appeal against the Appeal Court's ruling, AGAIN the McCanns LOST and the McCanns were AGAIN ordered to pay Amaral's costs.

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None of them will even mention these inconvenient FACTS



Hi Tony, I don't think they will be mentioned, they weren't at the time, so unlikely now.

Not sure how another court can award them damages, when two courts have said they have not been libelled and the book is back on sale.

SY have not come up with anything whatsoever to support their case. Also not sure how they can claim the book has had an adverse affect on the search for Madeleine. She remains the most high profile missing child in the world, not sure how they can prove no-one is searching as a result of GA's book.

As far as their lives being devastated is concerned, Gerry returned to full time work, Kate has recently been made Ambassador for Missing people and they assure us that the twins are thriving.

Returning to your original point Tony, I would have thought they should have abandoned their claim for damages following their losses in the Appeal Court and the Supreme Court. They may have had a strong case while the book was banned, but that is no longer the case. If I were Isabel, I would very worried that their wrath may turn against their legal advisors.


Well exactly, especially when you factor in the McCann-promoted "sightings" that have been coming thick and fast recently courtesy of the Olive Press. How can they square that with their claim Amaral's book has hindered their so called search? It just doesn't wash but then again, nothing about the couple washes (except perhaps cuddle cat).
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Post by ShuBob on 01.09.12 12:40

I don't see how anything the SY review team say can help the McCanns in their case against Amaral. Even if they say they have evidence Maddie was abducted, they would have to produce the evidence for the claim to help them. Merely saying it exists is neither here nor there.
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Post by Woofer on 01.09.12 12:47

@Cristobell wrote:
@Woofer wrote:Cristobell - SY (courtesy Andy Redwood) have stated publicly that they examined the time-line forensicly and concluded there would have been a small opportunity for her to be taken but obviously this must be from the manufactured time-line of TM. If TM grab AR`s statement to back their case, the time-line could easily be discredited by a good lawyer, IMO.

SY have said that part of their team is reviewing from the possibility she is dead, so it still doesn`t conclude anything as yet.



Hi Woofer, thank you, I hadn't seen that statement. That small window of opportunity certainly is a conundrum. If an abductor had been watching the family and the apartment for several days, why choose the moment when the father is standing outside of the apartment talking to a male friend? If we are to believe JT, he then walked past all 3 of them with a stolen child precariously balanced on his outstretched arms. One would have thought, he would have made some effort to conceal the child or at the very least, waited a few moments until the coast was clear before crossing that open, well lit road in front of them.

Exactly, which is why a good lawyer will make a nonsense out of it. Plus it can be proven just how many lies TM have spouted who any uncorrupted judge would deem as unreliable witnesses.
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Post by aniandr on 01.09.12 21:16

I dont get it. What is Their loss? How Can they prove that a book has damadged a private investigation? I must be misunderstanding something its seems like total nonsence! Anyone can write any book they want. Imagine even the slighest chance that you write a book and afterwards get sued. Utterly bullshit. Ore am i missing a point?
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Post by Guest on 01.09.12 21:36

@aniandr wrote:I dont get it. What is Their loss? How Can they prove that a book has damadged a private investigation? I must be misunderstanding something its seems like total nonsence! Anyone can write any book they want. Imagine even the slighest chance that you write a book and afterwards get sued. Utterly bullshit. Ore am i missing a point?

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You're not missing any point.

But IF

your child had gone missing on your watch

and when this loss had enabled you to pay your rent and higlights, because many earnest and goodwilling people had emptied their piggynbanks for you to find that kid of yours,

would you want to be found out?
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Post by Woofer on 01.09.12 21:37

@aniandr wrote:I dont get it. What is Their loss? How Can they prove that a book has damadged a private investigation? I must be misunderstanding something its seems like total nonsence! Anyone can write any book they want. Imagine even the slighest chance that you write a book and afterwards get sued. Utterly bullshit. Ore am i missing a point?

No you`re not missing the point aniandr. It is all a total nonsense cos we`re dealing with narcissists.
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Post by aniandr on 01.09.12 21:46

If they get a penny i Will be surprised it seems total nonsence to me
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