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Post by bobbin on 04.09.12 20:04

Moa, I feel so sad for your little Norwegian girl and her parents and family.
I hope you will be OK because I am sure that it will have touched you deeply.
I am sure that all your lovely Norwegian people will be mourning Sigrid and wondering just how terrible it is to have a monster in the midst.
Tragedies like this know no geographical boundaries and pain and horror are universally felt.
Thank you for keeping us posted on your little Norwegian girl and if you do find a chance to let her family know, please tell them that there are many people from different parts of the world who are sending them their heartfelt thoughts.

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Post by Guest on 04.09.12 20:12

Tony :Thank you for that Tony ..

I have read the book about Fred and Rosemary west and all their poor victims.. The book you are refering to I will defently read..Such a sad and cruel story...

Its such a cruel world sometimes..My heart is acking for Sigrids parents and little sister (12) ...Im sure they are "glad" to have found her, and know have and answer to where she is. But ofcourse they hoped to the very end she would be found alive, but I think we all kinde new that was not very realistic...But how awful to loose your first born child in such a horrific way. Living with the thoughts of how your daughter must have felt the lastminutes/hours/ days of her life.. Unbeareble..

Tigger: Yes I am leaving a condolans and I will bring the message from abroad !
No the man that was arrested for the false statement is not one of the arrested men, he had probably nothing to do with it, so no idea at all why he left a false statement, probably attention problems ...

But whats mostly upsetting about it all is (expet Sigrids death), the one arrested, the man that is 37, only a few years ago in 2006 he nearly killed a girl age 23, his neighbour, he was going to help her with something in the basement of the block they lived in, and down there he hit her in the head with an ironclub.
Luckily she survived. She woke up later full of blood, and manage to crawl out a window where she was found by someone walking by.
He just made up his mind at that moment to do it to get some money, to rob her.
Worst part is he only got 3 years , and was out of jail after 2 years. And now he killes Sigrid...he also had a restraining order to keep away from one person not named.. Our system is too kind defently, and staying in our jail si like living in a hotel only difference is you also get a daily payment in jail and free education, and the time they are given for the crime they have done is just redicilouse. Child abuse gives you a few months up to a year or two, but smoking some weed can give you 5-7 years !!! This man should never been alowed to walk free on the street !

Im sad and angry right now !!! sad
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Post by Guest on 04.09.12 20:18

@bobbin wrote:Moa, I feel so sad for your little Norwegian girl and her parents and family.
I hope you will be OK because I am sure that it will have touched you deeply.
I am sure that all your lovely Norwegian people will be mourning Sigrid and wondering just how terrible it is to have a monster in the midst.
Tragedies like this know no geographical boundaries and pain and horror are universally felt.
Thank you for keeping us posted on your little Norwegian girl and if you do find a chance to let her family know, please tell them that there are many people from different parts of the world who are sending them their heartfelt thoughts.

Thank you for the kind words, and yes I will defently put them forward. roses

This family of Sigrid, last year they lost their nephew at Utoya, killed by Anders Bering Breivik. How much pain and big losses for a little family in such a short time. And both in such a horrific way... But both cases strengthen the bonds in our little country as people where gathering together, giving support helping out in every way they could. And in both cases "everyone" in our little land was praying and sending out support for the victims and their closest...And both cases had much publicity in the news, everyone was helping out..In Sigrids case, almost 2000 people at the most met up at her school ready to join the search team.. As weeks went by people still kept coming, everyday ,and helped searching for her..They did not die unheard of..

When something like this happens in a little country like this, it effects all of us, deeply, and because of that we change slowly and get better as humans. Taking more care of eachother, our neighbours and those in need of help in generally..


A link to a news article with pictures of the arrested men, their faces are blurry.
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/krim/dette-er-37aaringen-som-er-siktet-for-drapet-paa-sigrid-3868506.html
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Post by Tony Bennett on 04.09.12 20:33

Teen found dead, suspects charged

September 4, 2012

After a dramatic day of intense investigation, police confirmed that a body found in a forest at Kolbotn Monday night was that of missing 16-year-old Sigrid Giskegjerde Schjetne of Oslo. Two men have been arrested, both of them charged with her murder.


Sigrid Giskegjerde Schjetne, age 16, had been missing since August 4. PHOTO: Politi

One of the men, said to be an ethnic Norwegian born in 1975, has several earlier criminal convictions, including some for use of excessive violence. The other man arrested is aged 64, also charged with murder. Both are in custody, undergoing questioning and pleading innocent to the charges against them.

Police wouldn’t reveal a cause of death and said they couldn’t reveal any further details after what Oslo vice crimes chief Hanne Kristin Rohde called “an extremely demanding 24 hours.” No information was released as to how long Schjetne may have been lying in the forest where she was found, or what police think happened on the night of her disappearance. Neither Rohde nor her colleague took any questions at a brief press conference Tuesday evening.

Schjetne disappeared while walking home from a visit with a girlfriend on the night of Saturday August 4. Her disappearance sparked one of the largest searches in Norwegian history, with hundreds of volunteers joining police in efforts to find the missing teenager or clues to her disappearance.

The weeks dragged on with no breakthrough in the case, and Schjetne’s distraught parents ultimately offered a reward funded by anonymous donors for information leading to their daughter’s return. Last week police charged a convicted rapist with making false statements to the police about Schjetne’s disappearance. Rohde said he is not one of the two men now under arrest.

Finally came word that police had found the body of a partially hidden person Tuesday night in a forest area behind a semi-industrial area at Kolbotn, south of Oslo. They cordoned off the area, sent the body in for autopsy around 4am and then carried on with another intense investigation of the area. Police revealed little information to the media but the attorney representing Schjetne’s parents told Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) that they were informed of the discovery of a body, and Rohde said they later were kept informed of developments throughout the day, referring to a “good and tight dialogue” with Schjetne’s family all along.

Release of the autopsy report was continually delayed but then came news that police were using specially trained dogs at various locations around Kolbotn, that they’d raided several local businesses, that they’d made arrests and that a public defender, the high-profile attorney John Christian Elden, had been appointed to represent the 37-year-old charged with murder. Police also reportedly raided the home of the other man charged.

“He’s undergoing questioning,” Elden told NRK Tuesday afternoon, referring to his new client. “I haven’t had a chance to speak with him yet and don’t know more about the case.”

Police in the Follo district where Kolbotn is located had said early on that they weren’t ruling out that the body was the missing teen’s. Rohde said another press conference would be held on Wednesday.

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Post by russiandoll on 04.09.12 22:33

What a lovely photo of this girl and what a sad story - the poor family have suffered so much anguish Lord knows how much strength they will need to cope with this tragedy. I can only hope that at last with this dreadful confirmation of their worst fears they can feel some small consolation eventually in that they have discovered her and can lay her to rest.



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Post by Guest on 04.09.12 23:14

The blogg for the arrested 37 year old is crazycop.blogg.no

Sick bastard !
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Post by Guest on 06.09.12 10:45

The blogg abowe is now closed down by the police..

It was Rasko, the cadaver dog that eventually found the body of Sigrid. he is trained to smell cadaver oudor and body fluids. He's been working for the police since 2009.

The dogs are not trustworthy eyh ! ( dogs dont lie, humans do !!)

The police also have a theory that she may have been driven over by a car, maybe on purpose.. In a way I hope so, and that she died imediatly..Instead of her beeing dragged into a car, raped and scared for the last hours of her life...The police have not given any details about cause of death , how long shes been dead etc yet...

http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/09/06/nyheter/sigrid_giskegjerde_schjetne/innenriks/23267478/
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Dogs used to strengthen the evidence

Post by Guest on 28.09.12 9:06

The arrested man (37) is denying having anything to do with the death of Sigrid.

But the police dog Trixie who is special trained to detect blood, sperm and cadaver odour, detected blood in the mans caravan, the blood is tested and is Sigrids blood..

Oh does unreliable dogs eyh...
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Post by bobbin on 28.09.12 10:51

Moa wrote:The arrested man (37) is denying having anything to do with the death of Sigrid.

But the police dog Trixie who is special trained to detect blood, sperm and cadaver odour, detected blood in the mans caravan, the blood is tested and is Sigrids blood..

Oh does unreliable dogs eyh...

Thank you for this info Moa, it comes under the saddest circumstances, but it allows us to continue to believe in the essential abilities of the dogs.
Just because humans are not equipped with the incredible 'sense of smell' that dogs have, does not mean that they don't possess it.
Their amazing skills, under proper training, and backed up by forensics, make them far more reliable than any 'human' witness, statement or denial.

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Post by Guest on 28.09.12 11:08

@bobbin wrote:
Moa wrote:The arrested man (37) is denying having anything to do with the death of Sigrid.

But the police dog Trixie who is special trained to detect blood, sperm and cadaver odour, detected blood in the mans caravan, the blood is tested and is Sigrids blood..

Oh does unreliable dogs eyh...

Thank you for this info Moa, it comes under the saddest circumstances, but it allows us to continue to believe in the essential abilities of the dogs.
Just because humans are not equipped with the incredible 'sense of smell' that dogs have, does not mean that they don't possess it.
Their amazing skills, under proper training, and backed up by forensics, make them far more reliable than any 'human' witness, statement or denial.

So with you on that ! Dogs dont lie, humans do !
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Post by ShuBob on 28.09.12 11:33

Thanks Moa for the update. Such a sad story. Hopefully, the arrested man will cooperate fully with the authorities and put an end to the misery for Sigrid's family and friends.

With regards to specialist dogs, with all that's known about them and all that's been PROVED time and time over, it beats me why anyone would try to discredit them

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Post by Guest on 28.09.12 11:40

@ShuBob wrote: [...] With regards to specialist dogs, with all that's known about them and all that's been PROVED time and time over, it beats me why anyone would try to discredit them
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Well, I can think of a couple of reasons ...
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Post by PeterMac on 28.09.12 12:00

@ShuBob wrote:
With regards to specialist dogs, with all that's known about them and all that's been PROVED time and time over, it beats me why anyone would try to discredit them
What else can they do ?

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Post by ShuBob on 28.09.12 12:17

Châtelaine wrote:
@ShuBob wrote: [...] With regards to specialist dogs, with all that's known about them and all that's been PROVED time and time over, it beats me why anyone would try to discredit them
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Well, I can think of a couple of reasons ...

The facts would still remain though so why bother? I suppose in court, lawyers would try to get their clients off by questioning any evidence regardless of how compelling it is but why would the McCanns themselves go to so much trouble to attempt to discredit these dogs outside court? IMO, it would have been better for them to ignore the dogs like they've ignored other evidence. Have any other suspects who haven't been charged with any crime done like the McCanns? Kate using the Jersey case in her attempt to discredit Martin Grime and his dogs is beyond the pale. It's madness!

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Post by Guest on 28.09.12 22:24

Yes.
The dogs are their bigger problems IMO.
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Post by Guest on 30.09.12 17:16

After this Sigrid case, it seems like the psyco people have woke up. We now have an epidemi of kidnappings.( or people trying to kindnap) The last two weeks, over 10 girls in the age 10-15 has been tried pulling into a car !!!And seems like there are different men driving around doing this !

Horrified, its been a new case everyday this week !!

Luckily they all managed to pull away and run ! One of the girls got thrown down a stony hill, beside the road, shes okey except som bruses and cuts...

Whats happening with little safe Norway.?.Sad
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Post by Guest on 30.09.12 23:43

Sick copycats, Moa.
Sometimes I think that less news in papers would be less problems.
Good night to you in beautiful Norway :-)
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Post by tigger on 01.10.12 11:46

Moa wrote:After this Sigrid case, it seems like the psyco people have woke up. We now have an epidemi of kidnappings.( or people trying to kindnap) The last two weeks, over 10 girls in the age 10-15 has been tried pulling into a car !!!And seems like there are different men driving around doing this !

Horrified, its been a new case everyday this week !!

Luckily they all managed to pull away and run ! One of the girls got thrown down a stony hill, beside the road, shes okey except som bruses and cuts...

Whats happening with little safe Norway.?.Sad

Criminals are rarely original thinkers. Most terrorist attacks have been copied from films or books. When something like this happens, people of low imagination and intelligence try to do the same thing to get fame or excitement.

Which is why I think it's very interesting that there are so many parallels between the JonBenetRamsey and Madeleine McCann case. Original thinkers - never!

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