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Ian Tomlinson death: PC not guilty

Post by Guest on 19.07.12 15:25

19 July 2012 Last updated at 15:16



Ian Tomlinson death: PC not guilty



PC Harwood denied Mr Tomlinson's manslaughter and maintained his actions were proportionate

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A police officer who hit Ian Tomlinson with a baton and pushed him to the ground at the G20 protests has been found not guilty of manslaughter.

PC Simon Harwood, 45, of south London, denied the manslaughter, in April 2009, of Mr Tomlinson, 47, on the grounds that he used reasonable force.

Mr Tomlinson, was pushed as he walked away from a police line in the City of London. He later collapsed and died.

His family said they would be pursuing the case in a civil court.

Members of Mr Tomlinson's family cried in the public gallery as the verdict was delivered at Southwark Crown Court, as did PC Harwood, in the dock, and his wife, Helen.


Ian Tomlinson timeline


  • 1 April 2009: Ian Tomlinson is caught up in a G20 protest. He collapses in the street and dies
  • 4 April: Police say post-mortem examination show he died of "natural causes"
  • 7 April: Video footage emerges of Mr Tomlinson being pushed to the ground by police officer
  • April 2009: Further post-mortem tests find cause of death was abdominal bleeding, caused by blow
  • 22 July: Prosecutors say there will be no charges as there is no agreement on death cause
  • 3 May 2011: Inquest verdict of unlawful killing
  • 20 June 2011: PC Simon Harwood charged with manslaughter after review of inquest evidence
  • 18 June 2012: PC Harwood goes on trial at Southwark Crown Court
  • 19 July 2012: PC Harwood found not guilty

The jury of five men and seven women had considered their verdict for four days.

During the trial, the police officer accepted he was "wrong" to have hit and pushed Mr Tomlinson.

He said that, had he realised at the time that Mr Tomlinson was walking away from police lines, he "would not have gone near him".

Father-of-nine Mr Tomlinson, who was a heavy drinker who had slept rough for a number of years, walked 75 yards before he collapsed.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission has said PC Harwood will face internal Met Police disciplinary proceedings later in the year over his actions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18900484



I feel for this poor man's family
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Post by Guest on 19.07.12 15:27

So he is found not guilty but the PCC says this......

The Independent Police Complaints Commission has said PC Harwood will face internal Met Police disciplinary proceedings later in the year over his actions.
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Post by Guest on 19.07.12 16:01

Statement from the Met police...............interesting...................

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Post by Spaniel on 19.07.12 18:28

They look after their own like doctors and lawyers.

That poor man, just trying to find a safe route home was felled by a fuelled up cop who should have helped, not killed him.
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Post by anil39200 on 19.07.12 18:34

Apparently he retired once prior to facing other complaints and was readmitted to the met. I feel sorry for the victim and just it does not act as a precedent for some of the thuggish element to get away with stuff. Also this was ruled as an unlawful killing so how does it all work? Presumably there can be a civil recourse for the family.

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Post by monkey mind on 19.07.12 20:16

PC Simon Harwood, 45, of south London, denied the manslaughter, in April 2009, of Mr Tomlinson, 47, on the grounds that he used reasonable force.

He said that, had he realised at the time that Mr Tomlinson was walking away from police lines, he "would not have gone near him".

So he claims he used reasonable force?

How much force is reasonable when a man is walking in the opposite direction on his way home from work??

NONE!!

That’s how much

They never cease to amaze me - nothing so fickle as a jury, mad as a box of frogs at times I swear.

It’s not the first time he has come under the microscope for unwarranted violent behaviour. The jury wouldn’t likely have been aware of that fact, but none the less it should have been clear that this man is nothing more than a thug. A disgrace to the uniform he was wearing and a disgrace to those officers who conduct themselves with honour, fairness and dignity in service to the public they have sworn to protect .

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Shameful. That's what.
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The jury were kept in the dark

Post by Tony Bennett on 20.07.12 8:29

The jury was not told that PC Simon Harwood:

* Had been disciplined by the police 10 times previously

* Had been involved in a road rage attack which prompted serious misconduct charges against him

* Resigned from the police force to avoid serious disciplinary action

* Was taken on again by the police despite the above appalling record.

Who approved the re-engagement of this thug in uniform? - another example of how the modern police force is out of control...



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PC Simon Harwood: Not guilty. But no innocent

Policeman cleared of death of G20 protester had been subject of repeated complaints about violent behaviour

Friday 20 July 2012


A police officer who was yesterday cleared of the manslaughter of a homeless man had been allowed to serve in a specialist riots unit despite a string of previous complaints about heavy-handed tactics, it can be revealed.

PC Simon Harwood, 45, is now facing a public misconduct hearing and civil action from the victim Ian Tomlinson's family, who described the not guilty verdict as a "joke". The highly trained officer had admitted hitting the newspaper seller with a baton and shoving him to the ground, but insisted his conduct was justifiable in the context of the G20 riots.

The jury, which took four days to reach its verdict, was not told that PC Harwood had been the subject of 10 disciplinary complaints in 12 years as an officer. He only avoided facing serious disciplinary charges in 2001 over a road-rage attack after quitting his job on health grounds – but later rejoined the force without ever having to face a hearing. Last night the Independent Police Complaints Commission condemned the "alarming" ease with which PC Harwood had escaped earlier disciplinary action.

The Tomlinson family stormed out of Southwark Crown Court moments after the jury returned its verdict. Speaking afterwards, Mr Tomlinson's stepson Paul King said his family would continue its fight for justice. "It's not the end, we are not giving up," he said.

The family had expected a guilty verdict after an inquest last year found Mr Tomlinson had been unlawfully killed, Mr King said.

Mr Tomlinson's death has become a focus for concerns about aggressive policing in the capital.

The court heard that PC Harwood had been publicly humiliated by his failure to arrest a protester during anti-G20 demonstrations on 1 April 2009 and his "blood was up" when he struck Mr Tomlinson, 47, who was trying to get through police lines to reach his hostel after a day spent drinking with friends.

Video footage showed Mr Tomlinson sent sprawling then remonstrating with police officers before being helped to his feet. He had been ambling away from the police lines with his hands in his pockets. He collapsed on the street about 75 yards away and was dead within an hour of the incident, having suffered severe internal injuries.

Mr Tomlinson's family last night said it would pursue civil action over his death after it emerged that PC Harwood resigned as a constable at the Metropolitan Police in 2001 and avoided disciplinary charges over the road-rage attack that could have seen him drummed out of the service.
He had been accused of unlawful arrest, abuse of authority and discreditable conduct but the case against him was never heard.

After resigning, he started work as a Scotland Yard civilian worker before returning to uniform for Surrey Police in 2003. He rejoined the Met in 2004 and trained to become part of the Territorial Support Group (TSG) – the public order team that is at the frontline of clashes between protesters and police.

The complaints commission warned of damage to public confidence over the case and demanded that the country's biggest force tighten its vetting procedures. It said it was "alarming" the officer was able to avoid a disciplinary hearing and return to the service without penalty.

Tomlinson's family: this is not the end

The family of Ian Tomlinson plan to launch a civil case after yesterday's verdict. The verdict was "a joke", Mr Tomlinson's stepson said. Speaking outside court, Paul King said: "In April 2009, we saw the shocking video of Ian being violently assaulted by PC Harwood, just minutes before he died. After the unlawful killing verdict at the inquest, we were expecting to hear a guilty verdict. It really hurts. But it's not the end, we're not giving up on justice for Ian. It's been very hard to keep going."

Margaret Davis

Unlawfully killed: Other police victims

The verdict on PC Simon Harwood is the latest instance where an officer has been cleared of manslaughter.

Robin Goodenough

Three police officers were cleared of killing the 26-year-old after he was stopped in 2003 in Oxford. Mr Goodenough, who was disqualified from driving, was punched in the face and left with a broken jaw. He swallowed so much blood that he could not breathe.

Christopher Alder

Five officers were charged with manslaughter after the black former paratrooper died face down in police custody in 1998. A coroner recorded a verdict of unlawful killing. The 2002 trial was stopped when the judge ruled there was conflicting medical evidence.

Richard O'Brien

Died in 1994 after he was pinned to the ground by three officers and suffocated during an arrest for drunken disorder. An inquest jury found he had been "unlawfully killed". Three officers were put on trial for his manslaughter in 1999 but acquitted.

Joy Gardner

Died at her flat in north London in 1995 after police wound sticking tape round her head to stop her biting them as she resisted a deportation order. No verdict was reached at the inquest. Three officers were cleared of manslaughter.

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Post by Gillyspot on 20.07.12 9:42

Here is the video of Mr Tomlinson being pushed to the ground

http://www.metro.co.uk/video/867320414001-g20-death-footage-released

What special type of muppet was on the jury if they were shown this several times & didn't see excessive force being carried out.

BTW apparently CPS "forgot" to ask for an assault charge to be included as well as murder.

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Post by Guest on 21.07.12 17:30

I find this article total astonishing, that met police could hide this man's disciplinary record, the more you read the more your jaw drops...............

Tomlinson case: Met police tried to hide PC Harwood's disciplinary record


Files contained multiple assault allegations but police lawyers said disclosing them would have breached officer's privacy





PC Simon Harwood has been cleared of manslaughter of newspaper vendor Ian Tomlinson during G20 protests. Photograph: Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images

The Metropolitan police attempted to keep the disciplinary record of PC Simon Harwood secret from the family of Ian Tomlinson, the newspaper seller he struck with a baton and pushed to the ground at G20 protests, it can now be reported.

Lawyers for the force tried and failed to argue that disclosing the litany of complaints about Harwood's conduct would have breached his privacy, saying the officer's disciplinary history did not have "any relevance" to Tomlinson's death.

Harwood, 45, who was found not guilty of Tomlinson's manslaughter on Thursday, had repeatedly been accused of using excessive force during his career, including claims he punched, throttled, kneed and unlawfully arrested people.

The jury in the trial were not told about the history of complaints, despite a submission from the Crown Prosecution Service, which argued that in two of the disciplinary matters he was accused of using heavy-handed tactics against the public "when they presented no threat".

The application was rejected by the judge, Mr Justice Fulford, who said: "The jury, in effect, would have to conduct three trials."

The inquest jury – which concluded last year that Tomlinson was "unlawfully killed" by the police officer – was also prevented from hearing the details of the complaints.

The conclusion of the trial means it is now possible to report details of a pre-inquest hearing in February last year at London's Old Bailey.

The Met, represented by Samantha Leek QC, played down the significance of Harwood's disciplinary files, and argued they should not be shown to lawyers for the family, who at the time suspected they might be of relevance to his inquest.

Arguing the files should be kept secret, the force said: "Disciplinary records concern the private employment data of an individual."

Eventually, the Met was instructed to share the files with interested parties. When lawyers from Tomlinson's family were able to inspect the disciplinary records – which filled five lever-arch folders – they discovered detailed complaints containing several allegations of physical assaults.

In one case, a fellow police officer complained that Harwood grabbed a suspect by the throat, punched him twice in the face and pushed him into a table, causing it to break.

In another, Harwood was accused of assaulting a driver after a road rage incident, and then altering his notes afterwards. In a third, a member of the public reported seeing Harwood kneeing a man in the kidney while he was handcuffed to the ground.

Nine of the complaints were dismissed or unproven, but one, in which Harwood admitted he had gone into "red mist mode" before unlawfully accessing the police national computer, was upheld.

Harwood was able to avoid disciplinary action by retiring from the Met, rejoining the force three days later in a civilian role and then reapplying to enter uniformed ranks – a move the police watchdog has said was "staggering".

Jules Carey of Tuckers solicitors said: "The Metropolitan police and PC Harwood's lawyers argued that the Tomlinson family should not be able to see PC Harwood's records as they said that they were not relevant 'to any issue to be investigated by the inquest' and that they were private.

"It was surreal being forced to argue about the potential relevance of records without being permitted sight of them. When Ian's family did finally learn of the content of the records, they were shocked at the number of allegations and complaints that had been made about this officer."

He added: "Their view remains, that if the disciplinary and vetting procedures actually worked in the forces that employed Harwood he would not have been on duty at the G20."

The Met said in a statement: "At the pre-inquest hearing into the death of Mr Tomlinson, the MPS was invited by the Coroner to offer a submission on the issue of disclosure of PC Harwood's disciplinary record. The MPS expressed a view that this should not be disclosed as it was not relevant to determining the cause of Mr Tomlinson's death and could potentially impact on any future criminal proceedings. The MPS further submitted, however, that the balance would lie in favour of disclosure if the Coroner determined that it was of relevance to establishing the cause of death."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/20/police-simon-harwood-disciplinary-records?newsfeed=true
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Post by Spaniel on 21.07.12 17:42

As I said before candyfloss, they look after their own.

The extra blight on this case is why are the family of Ian Tomlinson now so concerned, when they left him as an alcoholic sleeping rough on the streets previously?
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Post by Guest on 21.07.12 18:42

I did wonder about that too but it seems from this article that, though the family cared about him, the problems caused by his alcoholism became too much for him to stay at home.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13034919

I can sympathise as there is an alcoholic in my family.
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Post by PeterMac on 21.07.12 18:49

@Spaniel wrote:
The extra blight on this case is why are the family of Ian Tomlinson now so concerned, when they left him as an alcoholic sleeping rough on the streets previously?
Compensation. In a word.
Follow the money, and watch the family.

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Post by Spaniel on 21.07.12 19:47

Jean wrote:I did wonder about that too but it seems from this article that, though the family cared about him, the problems caused by his alcoholism became too much for him to stay at home.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13034919

I can sympathise as there is an alcoholic in my family.

Must be very difficult Jean, but I can't imagine being able to sleep if my Dad had been living rough as I loved him dearly. Mr Tomlinson must have been a good man or why else uphold his reputation now?

The family say they wan't no compensation from a civil suit. We'll see, as no solicitor would advocate an expensive lawsuit just on principle.

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Post by littlepixie on 22.07.12 11:07

It is a disgrace that this man has walked away after attacking someone and causing his death. It saddens me as I know how hard some Police Officers are working to improve their relations with the Public and this idiot of an Officer ruins what they are doing.

I have seen the good and bad in Police Officers recently. At an event featuring children who had had a bad start and who had turned their lives around, two Police Officers totally spoiled it by standing at the back like stern faced bouncers.
When I smiled at one of them as we were leaving he glared at me and looked me up and down as if I was scum. It immediatly made me feel angry, as if I was being judged. I put a complaint in about them.

I have also seen how compassionate and proffessional Officers are when there is a sudden death. You could not fault them and one of them was almost moved to tears.

Its Thugs like Harwood and those who intimidate that need getting rid of.
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Post by Guest on 17.09.12 22:42

So PC Harwood who was found not guilty on manslaughter earlier, has now been sacked..............

G20 death: PC Simon Harwood sacked for gross misconduct

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19620627



Ian Tomlinson family: 'It's a whitewash'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19626266



Ian Tomlinson timeline



  • 1 April 2009: Ian Tomlinson is caught up in a G20 protest. He collapses in the street and dies
  • 4 April: Police say post-mortem examination show he died of "natural causes"
  • 7 April: Video footage emerges of Mr Tomlinson being pushed to the ground by police officer
  • April 2009: Further post-mortem tests find cause of death was abdominal bleeding, caused by blow
  • 22 July: Prosecutors say there will be no charges as there is no agreement on death cause
  • 3 May 2011: Inquest verdict of unlawful killing
  • 20 June 2011: PC Simon Harwood charged with manslaughter after review of inquest evidence
  • 18 June 2012: PC Harwood goes on trial at Southwark Crown Court
  • 19 July 2012: PC Harwood found not guilty
  • 17 September 2012: PC Harwood found guilty of gross misconduct and sacked from the Met Police at disciplinary hearing
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Post by Ross on 17.09.12 23:08

@Gillyspot wrote:Here is the video of Mr Tomlinson being pushed to the ground

http://www.metro.co.uk/video/867320414001-g20-death-footage-released

What special type of muppet was on the jury if they were shown this several times & didn't see excessive force being carried out.

BTW apparently CPS "forgot" to ask for an assault charge to be included as well as murder.

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