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Post by tuom on 30.06.12 21:22

While I could accept that maybe KMC had more than one pair of these black/white check pants , she seems to have worn them many many times , well before she went to PDL , going to work and even on the journey back to the UK , if they are the same pair surely they would have been in police evidence ? if I am getting this wrong feel free to correct

I have tried to put pictures up , will keep trying ..

http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=pictures+of+gerry+mccann&start=507&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=PYO5KEeCCdzL9M:&imgrefurl=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gerry-mccann-makes-first-trip-386364&docid=48cdQHJBXD7R-M&imgurl=http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article386362.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/sunday-mirror-image-5-816574242.jpg&w=615&h=409&ei=VGLvT6nbPIyXhQeBj_mIDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=899&vpy=177&dur=144&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=116&ty=77&sig=108106861617726759656&page=21&tbnh=135&tbnw=180&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:507,i:114


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Re: Kate Mc Canns Check Pants

Post by jd on 30.06.12 23:52




The 3rd link was the same as the first one Tuom....so have added the birthday party check trousers
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Post by tuom on 01.07.12 20:30

@jd wrote:


The 3rd link was the same as the first one Tuom....so have added the birthday party check trousers



Thanks jd , there is another picture in google images of the MCS returning to the UK and KMC is wearing check trousers also , the link will not work for me
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Post by russiandoll on 01.07.12 23:04

what is going on with Maddie's left arm between the wrist and elbow?

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Post by Guest on 01.07.12 23:22

Goodness knows! There's a distinct line at the halfway point and the lower part of the arm is darker than the upper; together with the large clenched hand, it looks really odd.
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Post by tuom on 02.07.12 12:30





Found the other picture with the pants , this is from google images of the MCS returning to the UK , and yes I agree that MMC arm in that birthday picture is very strange indeed , was she wriggling about ? why are they holding so tightly ? why so uptight ? sorry off topic a bit
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Post by jd on 02.07.12 12:36

@russiandoll wrote:what is going on with Maddie's left arm between the wrist and elbow?

I know it doesn't look normal...weird
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Birthday cake photo

Post by dentdelion on 02.07.12 12:52

Yes an odd one.... that is a long way for a child to blow a puff of air to try and extinguish candles! Why not move the cake to the edge of counter? Probably need to stand on something tho' is this an 'island unit' in a kitchen. Have we concluded that it is the McCann's kitchen? Maybe the twins had had their 'go' at party table and cake was removed to kitchen to chop up so last minute and rushed opportunity for Madeliene to blow out the relit candles.
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Post by dentdelion on 02.07.12 12:54

Yes an odd one.... that is a long way for a child to blow a puff of air to try and extinguish candles! Why not move the cake to the edge of counter? Probably need to stand on something tho' is this an 'island unit' in a kitchen. Have we concluded that it is the McCann's kitchen? Maybe the twins had had their 'go' at party table and cake was removed to kitchen to chop up so last minute and rushed opportunity for Madeleine to blow out the relit candles.
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Post by Newintown on 02.07.12 13:15

@russiandoll wrote:what is going on with Maddie's left arm between the wrist and elbow?

Her right hand also looks "stumpy" with a dark shadow between 2 of her fingers as if they've been cut around or photoshopped and not a very good job done.

There is also a white line along Kate's left leg above the pile of plates going up to her hand holding the knife and white lines either side of Madeleine's straps on her dress. There's also a white line along the top of the dress along her chest. Why would white lines be shown on a photo unless again it's been photoshopped, yet there are no white lines anywhere on the person holding Madeleine.
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Re: Kate Mc Canns Check Pants

Post by aquila on 02.07.12 13:36

I don't think there would be a false photo of KM and Madeleine which included her aunt. I can't see her aunt being too happy about it if it weren't authentic. I think the lighting above the worktop/island is halogen lighting that points downwards and mixed with the other lighting (natural/electrical) creates different shadows. I also think that there is an opportunity for weird people on forums to manipulate these photos. How do we know on this forum that the photo we are looking at has not been interfered with and is being purported as original? I know I'll get shot down for this comment but really, how do we know that we are not being lead up a garden path by people who just want to distract?
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Post by tuom on 02.07.12 13:48

My post seems to have wandered off topic , any comments on the black/white check pants that KMC wears a lot ?
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Post by Guest on 02.07.12 13:53

I know what you mean Aquila but, in the case of this photo, it first appeared in the press as early as 6th May 2007 so I don't think it's been tampered with later.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453030/Its-Maddys-birthday-Saturday-making-Dr-Who-cake.html
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Post by Snifferdog on 02.07.12 14:08

Hi back from hols in Mozambique. Aquila I agree with you in what you're saying. I don't see anything wrong in this photo besides the time of year, unless they have good central heating then I suppose the dress and short sleeves are understandable.
Kate's check pants do not show up in the reflection as it should be, and if you look carefully you can see that her head is reflected and it has a faint halo where the light has highlighted her hair. I do not see anything strange re the position of the woman's arms holding Madeleine. The tensed muscles show as they should for one holding someone in this position. Madeleine has her foot resting on the table and its position looks correct to me. Kate is pulling Madeleine's arm forward causing the hollow on Madeleines left side next to her neck.

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Post by russiandoll on 02.07.12 14:13

one last comment on the cake photo, it is a heck of a long way for a child to blow out the candles, what puzzles me is why instead of the child esp looking so uncomfortable [ not much fun for the aunt either the way she is holding her]...did they not unfold the tea towel on the worktop in front of them,[ Maddie is already raised so her knees are level with the worktop.] and let her kneel on the tea towel and support her from behind that way all 3 are comfy. I wonder how long it took to blow out those candles from that distance...



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Post by Snifferdog on 02.07.12 14:17

Methinks perhaps they were removing her from the table....(Madeleine was always a handful)

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Post by aquila on 02.07.12 14:25

Jean wrote:I know what you mean Aquila but, in the case of this photo, it first appeared in the press as early as 6th May 2007 so I don't think it's been tampered with later.

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453030/Its-Maddys-birthday-Saturday-making-Dr-Who-cake.html
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Thanks Jean,

I see many things wrong in this photograph but not for photographic content any longer. I concede that the pants may have been photoshopped in. Many months ago I posted re the reflection in the toaster. I just can't accept that Madeleine's aunt would not remember this photo being taken or the McCanns would have the gall to change it and hope she didn't notice. I can't accept that the wider McCann/Healey family are complicit.
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Post by russiandoll on 02.07.12 14:26

Methinks perhaps they were removing her from the table....(Madeleine was always a handful)
lord alone knows but it is one weird photo, where are the othere kids? I have seen a lot of photos of youngsters blowing out birthday candles, usually taken at a distance where other children are around the table, so strange to see this lone little girl with 2 adults.

now back to the check pants, which remind me of pj bottoms in the photo where K and G are near the church.

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Post by tuom on 02.07.12 14:34

@russiandoll wrote:Methinks perhaps they were removing her from the table....(Madeleine was always a handful)
lord alone knows but it is one weird photo, where are the othere kids? I have seen a lot of photos of youngsters blowing out birthday candles, usually taken at a distance where other children are around the table, so strange to see this lone little girl with 2 adults.

now back to the check pants, which remind me of pj bottoms in the photo where K and G are near the church.



RD : My original question was if these were the pants that the evidence was found on how is KMC wearing them on the flight back to the UK , of course she may really like them and have lots of pairs, could be as simple as that .....
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Post by Snifferdog on 02.07.12 14:38

Russiandoll again quickly off subject, sorry, but Kate's and the woman, whoever she may be expressions are all wrong for people whose nearest and dearest is about to blow out birthday candles too. Could the children be around the other side of the counter not visible in the photo? Perhaps it was another child's birthday, think someone before suggested the twins, or perhaps it could have been another childs birthday held at the Mccs house?

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Post by uppatoffee on 02.07.12 14:53

The cake has blue and pink icing and it looks like the first word ends in Lie, so I would imagine the cake is for the twins birthday on 1 February. Two candles, so presumably 2007 for their second birthday. I can imagine they don't want Madeleine to be left out, so given her the opportunity to blow out the candles on the cake, out of the way of the twins, who were probably off playing with Fiona and Gregor who appear in some of the other photos from that day.
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Post by Snifferdog on 02.07.12 15:01

@tuom wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:Methinks perhaps they were removing her from the table....(Madeleine was always a handful)
lord alone knows but it is one weird photo, where are the othere kids? I have seen a lot of photos of youngsters blowing out birthday candles, usually taken at a distance where other children are around the table, so strange to see this lone little girl with 2 adults.

now back to the check pants, which remind me of pj bottoms in the photo where K and G are near the church.



RD : My original question was if these were the pants that the evidence was found on how is KMC wearing them on the flight back to the UK , of course she may really like them and have lots of pairs, could be as simple as that .....
I must say that I should not like to wear a pair of pants with cadaver odour in it. Must have been a favourite pair. Though I am surprised that they were not kept by the Portuguese Police as the dogs smelt cadaver on them.

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Post by russiandoll on 02.07.12 15:31

@uppatoffee wrote:The cake has blue and pink icing and it looks like the first word ends in Lie, so I would imagine the cake is for the twins birthday on 1 February. Two candles, so presumably 2007 for their second birthday. I can imagine they don't want Madeleine to be left out, so given her the opportunity to blow out the candles on the cake, out of the way of the twins, who were probably off playing with Fiona and Gregor who appear in some of the other photos from that day.

a very good explanation , thank you : but while this looks like a 2nd birthday celebration for the twins, there is no way I accept ,given the foiaige in the garden and the way everyone is dressed, that this little "do" took place in the winter time, no matter how mild.

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Post by AskTheDogsSandra on 02.07.12 15:38

@Snifferdog wrote:
@tuom wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:Methinks perhaps they were removing her from the table....(Madeleine was always a handful)
lord alone knows but it is one weird photo, where are the othere kids? I have seen a lot of photos of youngsters blowing out birthday candles, usually taken at a distance where other children are around the table, so strange to see this lone little girl with 2 adults.

now back to the check pants, which remind me of pj bottoms in the photo where K and G are near the church.



RD : My original question was if these were the pants that the evidence was found on how is KMC wearing them on the flight back to the UK , of course she may really like them and have lots of pairs, could be as simple as that .....
I must say that I should not like to wear a pair of pants with cadaver odour in it. Must have been a favourite pair. Though I am surprised that they were not kept by the Portuguese Police as the dogs smelt cadaver on them.

Not only was she wearing pants with cadaver odour on them but they left Portugal in the same car that was
reeking of cadaver odour. I'm surprised the Portuguese police let them have the car back let alone the pants.
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Post by aquila on 02.07.12 15:43

@uppatoffee wrote:The cake has blue and pink icing and it looks like the first word ends in Lie, so I would imagine the cake is for the twins birthday on 1 February. Two candles, so presumably 2007 for their second birthday. I can imagine they don't want Madeleine to be left out, so given her the opportunity to blow out the candles on the cake, out of the way of the twins, who were probably off playing with Fiona and Gregor who appear in some of the other photos from that day.

There is a third candle holder on the kitchen counter. I really don't see anything wrong with this photo. As for publishing photos of other children well that's not fair on the protection/privacy of the children. I've changed my mind over the months re this picture. I commented many months ago on the reflection in the toaster. I think this photograph is genuine in the main. The chequered trousers may have been photo shopped in afterwards as aunty may not have remembered what exactly KM was wearing but I think it was a snapshot of Madeleine being excited and demanding and maybe a bit jealous and insisting on blowing out the candles. The wearing of a party frock in February in a British house with central heating and a lot of hot, sweaty, excited kids doesn't strike me as odd.

The fact that cadaver dogs alerted to Kate's trousers and there was a glib answer that she wore them to work and had been in contact with cadaverine (remember Cuddlecat was also exposed to that and she alleges to have taken Madeleine's favourite toy to work) and then she wore them on holiday and showed herself wearing them in a photograph taken prior to the holiday is suspect imo.

Tuom is right. If those trousers were the same ones why was Kate McCann allowed to keep them? perhaps she wasn't.
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