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Post by Spaniel on 18.07.12 13:35

Maybe KM fluffed her lines. Instead of saying "Someone's taken Madeleine." She said "They've taken her." Athough I think I would have said, "Someone's taken Madeleine out through the window."

Perhaps "they" did take her, as that could mean alive or dead either that night or on a previous occasion.
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Post by tuom on 18.07.12 13:44

@Spaniel wrote:Maybe KM fluffed her lines. Instead of saying "Someone's taken Madeleine." She said "They've taken her." Athough I think I would have said, "Someone's taken Madeleine out through the window."

Perhaps "they" did take her, as that could mean alive or dead either that night or on a previous occasion.



The line in blue above is interesting IMO imagine ......... you find the child missing , you search around the apartment , gettiing frantic you notice window open and shutters "jemmied" and still no child !............ normal reaction could be "I can't find her , she's not there ! the window is open ! to raise the alarm , alas not enough rehersal ......... bad script and even worse actors ..........
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Post by Guest on 18.07.12 14:00

@tuom wrote:
@Spaniel wrote:Maybe KM fluffed her lines. Instead of saying "Someone's taken Madeleine." She said "They've taken her." Athough I think I would have said, "Someone's taken Madeleine out through the window."

Perhaps "they" did take her, as that could mean alive or dead either that night or on a previous occasion.



The line in blue above is interesting IMO imagine ......... you find the child missing , you search around the apartment , gettiing frantic you notice window open and shutters "jemmied" and still no child !............ normal reaction could be "I can't find her , she's not there ! the window is open ! to raise the alarm , alas not enough rehersal ......... bad script and even worse actors ..........

If I had walked into my apartment and the window was open and the shutter raised it would be absolutely obvious that a child couldn't have done that, so I would be panic stricken immediately knowing someone had got in, therefore I would be shouting and screaming at the top of my voice from the balcony so the whole neighbourhood could hear...

Someone help, help me...... someone call the police..... my daughters gone.
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Post by tuom on 18.07.12 14:27

candyfloss wrote:
@tuom wrote:
@Spaniel wrote:Maybe KM fluffed her lines. Instead of saying "Someone's taken Madeleine." She said "They've taken her." Athough I think I would have said, "Someone's taken Madeleine out through the window."

Perhaps "they" did take her, as that could mean alive or dead either that night or on a previous occasion.



The line in blue above is interesting IMO imagine ......... you find the child missing , you search around the apartment , gettiing frantic you notice window open and shutters "jemmied" and still no child !............ normal reaction could be "I can't find her , she's not there ! the window is open ! to raise the alarm , alas not enough rehersal ......... bad script and even worse actors ..........

If I had walked into my apartment and the window was open and the shutter raised it would be absolutely obvious that a child couldn't have done that, so I would be panic stricken immediately knowing someone had got in, therefore I would be shouting and screaming at the top of my voice from the balcony so the whole neighbourhood could hear...

Someone help, help me...... someone call the police..... my daughters gone.



Exactly !
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Post by Spaniel on 18.07.12 15:01

In the early days they made no mention of an open window. I recall GM being asked why the patio door was unlocked and he stated it was in case of fire. I'm sure the jemmied window came later.

Talking of early days. Does anyone remember John McCann being interviewed in his home, when his son wandered in and was about to say something? JM grabbed him and tickled him so he couldn't speak. It was the most bizarre, cringeworthy display ever.
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Post by Guest on 18.07.12 15:09

@Spaniel wrote:In the early days they made no mention of an open window. I recall GM being asked why the patio door was unlocked and he stated it was in case of fire. I'm sure the jemmied window came later.

Talking of early days. Does anyone remember John McCann being interviewed in his home, when his son wandered in and was about to say something? JM grabbed him and tickled him so he couldn't speak. It was the most bizarre, cringeworthy display ever.



Eh??? It was the first thing we were told, almost immediately after loads here on this link, here is just one.............



Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007



Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."

Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull."

"They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

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http://www.mccannfiles.com/id31.html
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Post by tuom on 18.07.12 15:12

@Spaniel wrote:In the early days they made no mention of an open window. I recall GM being asked why the patio door was unlocked and he stated it was in case of fire. I'm sure the jemmied window came later.

Talking of early days. Does anyone remember John McCann being interviewed in his home, when his son wandered in and was about to say something? JM grabbed him and tickled him so he couldn't speak. It was the most bizarre, cringeworthy display ever.



Spaniel I think iirc that was on sky news , it would be interesting if we could find that as my husband told me at the time that it was JMC that first mentioned about the coloboma in MMC eye , as he (hubby) said at the time that he thought the parents should have said that immediately . I may be all wrong on this , if I am I stand corrected .
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Post by Spaniel on 18.07.12 16:22

candyfloss wrote:
@Spaniel wrote:In the early days they made no mention of an open window. I recall GM being asked why the patio door was unlocked and he stated it was in case of fire. I'm sure the jemmied window came later.

Talking of early days. Does anyone remember John McCann being interviewed in his home, when his son wandered in and was about to say something? JM grabbed him and tickled him so he couldn't speak. It was the most bizarre, cringeworthy display ever.



Eh??? It was the first thing we were told, almost immediately after loads here on this link, here is just one.............



Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007



Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."

Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull."

"They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

Link to Daily Mirror article containing this quote



http://www.mccannfiles.com/id31.html




I'm referring to what GM said on television candyfloss, not what the extended family told second hand and was then reported by the rags.

According to the Mirror, "They came in the window, and left by the door." I thought "they" came in the door and left by the window?

No matter, confusion is good.

I heard and watched that come from his own lips. There was no mention of a window and nor was he asked about a window.

The original report was that the door was locked. This was his undoing of the locked door.

In spite of the best efforts of a small group, much has been lost. Who could have possibly known?

We all remember the comparison of losing a daughter to finding your student loan used up for instance, but it's gone! It happened because I remember raging at the callous B on the television!

Just because there's no film now, doesn't mean it wasn't said.

I fear this reply is going large, sorry.
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Post by tigger on 18.07.12 17:15

Spaniel, here you are:

Interview with Ian Woods from Sky News on 25 may 2007 :
IW: I think that everyone has just been incredibly impressed with you
as a couple and how you’ve dealt with this. There was a period after a
week or so where you looked as if you were almost brokenbroke?? and who could
not understand that? And then there seemed to be a sort of a strength
come from somewhere. Is that a fair point? Is that what happened and
what brought it about?

KMcC: I think that’s definitely true, isn’t it [looks at Gerry and sighs]

GMcC: Certainly, you know, at the end of that first week there was so
much emotion that we had spent and we actually had a period where we
discussed this openly that we felt devoid, completely devoid of emotion. The analogy that I like to use is a bit like when we were students and you’d got to your overdraft limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank bank??. Also, I think, physically and mentally we were shattered but,
you know, as we gradually got more on an even keel and we started to
get back into the black and we’d also worked tirelessly behind the
scenes to put support mechanisms in place including our legal team. The
response with the fund which was really driven by offers rather than us
thinking we needed it. And once these were in place then it helped us to
focus on what we really needed to focus on. http://news.sky.com/home/article/1267568

The full transcript is on the link, but video is gone. Perhaps we should save the transcript somewhere?

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Post by Spaniel on 18.07.12 17:31

@tuom wrote:
@Spaniel wrote:In the early days they made no mention of an open window. I recall GM being asked why the patio door was unlocked and he stated it was in case of fire. I'm sure the jemmied window came later.

Talking of early days. Does anyone remember John McCann being interviewed in his home, when his son wandered in and was about to say something? JM grabbed him and tickled him so he couldn't speak. It was the most bizarre, cringeworthy display ever.



Spaniel I think iirc that was on sky news , it would be interesting if we could find that as my husband told me at the time that it was JMC that first mentioned about the coloboma in MMC eye , as he (hubby) said at the time that he thought the parents should have said that immediately . I may be all wrong on this , if I am I stand corrected .
Hi tuorn, I don't have sky. This was a report on the local evening news in the Midlands, their home turf.

The child would have been maybe 9 or10? The home looked like it was owned by old people, brown fabric furnishings. The covering of what the child was about to say was so obvious. JM flew at the child as he entered, putting him across his body and tickled him. I don't like tickling anyway, as it can be bullying or a cover for sexual abuse, not of course saying it was in this case. It was done to silence the child!

Love to know what the kid was about to say!



Of couse I'm not talking about a little tickle under baby's arms.

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Post by Spaniel on 18.07.12 17:54

@tigger wrote:Spaniel, here you are:

Interview with Ian Woods from Sky News on 25 may 2007 :
IW: I think that everyone has just been incredibly impressed with you
as a couple and how you’ve dealt with this. There was a period after a
week or so where you looked as if you were almost brokenbroke?? and who could
not understand that? And then there seemed to be a sort of a strength
come from somewhere. Is that a fair point? Is that what happened and
what brought it about?

KMcC: I think that’s definitely true, isn’t it [looks at Gerry and sighs]

GMcC: Certainly, you know, at the end of that first week there was so
much emotion that we had spent and we actually had a period where we
discussed this openly that we felt devoid, completely devoid of emotion. The analogy that I like to use is a bit like when we were students and you’d got to your overdraft limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank bank??. Also, I think, physically and mentally we were shattered but,
you know, as we gradually got more on an even keel and we started to
get back into the black and we’d also worked tirelessly behind the
scenes to put support mechanisms in place including our legal team. The
response with the fund which was really driven by offers rather than us
thinking we needed it. And once these were in place then it helped us to
focus on what we really needed to focus on. http://news.sky.com/home/article/1267568

The full transcript is on the link, but video is gone. Perhaps we should save the transcript somewhere?
Thanks tigger. The one dimensional git I was married to then, couldn't understand why I cared so much when I raged against what GM said.
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Post by Mariita on 02.08.12 21:06

@Ribisl wrote:I apologise for contributing nothing new here but this is a quiet reflection on my part.

Reading some recent posts by the members, I couldn't help being reminded how woefully inadequate and ill prepared the MCs appear as parents. They had long wanted children but when they came they were treated more like accessories, to be seen with when they weren't busy enjoying themselves. Or so it appears.

Some heartwarming anecdotes posted here about how they were treated by their parents and how they themselves have dealt with their own children in difficult circumstances, make me realise belatedly such selfless maternal/paternal behaviour simply does not come naturally to the MCs. Perhaps their egos are too strong. The youngest boy of the family marries the only child and you have a pair of immature and self-centred individuals playing parents, without truly accepting the degree of responsibility parenthood brings, incapable of nurturing the young and vulnerable.

Their behaviour after Madeleine's disappearance merely underlines their priorities in life and clearly demonstrates to the world Madeleine probably suffered even in her very short life. This is a sad reflection indeed.

I find this story so difficult to understand, there is so much sadness but for me it is clear (unless the abductionstory is true) that whatever happened its source is a deep dysfunctional family. I think Madeleine had a certain role that wasn´t too fortunate for her. Correcting the above, even with an abduction it would be a result of something dysfunctional. Childneglect is heavy enough (but of course, it is nothing compared to being directly responsible for your child´s death). I don´t think it is too farfetched to apply the following on the McCannfamily:

In a multiple child family of narcissistic parents it is common that each parent picks a child to idealise and another to denounce and devalue, with the rest of the children effectively ignored. The parents may choose a common “good child” and a common “bad child”, but what is most common is each parent chooses a different favourite child, and a different scapegoated child, which is often the opposite choice of the other parent(Meier:2009). This enacts another form of form of “splitting” amongst the children.

A common outcome is the narcissist chooses the eldest child of the same sex as them to be the scapegoat, whilst the eldest child of the opposite sex to be the idealised favourite child, or the prince or princess(Meier:2009). In effect the narcissistic parent is creating the same idealised false self in their favourite child, and project their own disowned faults and shadow onto the scapegoated child(Meier:2009). This too is a form of “splitting”.

This outcome can become a battlefield where the child is assaulted interchangeably with seductive ego puffery by one parent, and a cold belittling hostility of the other parent. Where there is a common choice of the favourite child and the scapegoat, one sees the creation of the next generation of narcissist, whilst the scapegoated child will likely act out rebel behaviours and the disowned shame and shadow material of the parents, via drugs, crime, shameful public activities, and possibly self mutilation or anorexia over time.

The rest of the children watch silently and like lonely sentinels from the sidelines in either case, wondering all the time what is wrong with them that they are invisible and unwanted. Some will develop strategies like becoming sickly to get negative attention(which is at least attention), while others fade into the background and learn to be needless, wantless, and unsure of feelings and who they are.

In amongst this battlefield of a dysfunctional family there may also be the added complication of the jealousy of those children who compete for attention of the parents. Narcissistic parents will play power games with children in this way, making children earn their “love” and loyalty by proving over and over the same from the child in many demonstrated ways. The Narcissistic parent will milk their own children for their narcissistic ego supplies without remorse.

The children are all under the common demand to “maintain the family image”, and are told how lucky they are to be in such a family. The children may be accused behind closed doors of being “too dramatic” for just having human feelings or emotions in public that spoil that perfect image. The child will quickly learn to disown and split off those aspects of self that invite recrimination.

The needs of the parents are all that count and the children learn to shutdown emotionally, to play their part in the family facade, and from time to time to “perform” their special skill, trick, or be shown off, all to garner the parents the public’s tick of approval of their parenting. Children learn that image is everything around here and bend to the parents will, setting the child up to grow up narcissistic in themself.

Children of such families are robbed of their childhoods, their realities, their needs and wants, and connection to their true selves. Every child is dependent on their parents for their survival, and every child seeks and needs love, time, attention and direction from their parents. The child will split themself into a disowned true self, and a false self that houses that special talent or gift that gets them the narcissistic parent's approval. The parent may also decide which aspect of the child must be developed and perfected in order for the child to get that approval.

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Post by Ribisl on 02.08.12 23:51

@tigger wrote:Spaniel, here you are:

Interview with Ian Woods from Sky News on 25 may 2007 :
IW: I think that everyone has just been incredibly impressed with you
as a couple and how you’ve dealt with this. There was a period after a
week or so where you looked as if you were almost brokenbroke?? and who could
not understand that? And then there seemed to be a sort of a strength
come from somewhere. Is that a fair point? Is that what happened and
what brought it about?

KMcC: I think that’s definitely true, isn’t it [looks at Gerry and sighs]

GMcC: Certainly, you know, at the end of that first week there was so
much emotion that we had spent and we actually had a period where we
discussed this openly that we felt devoid, completely devoid of emotion. The analogy that I like to use is a bit like when we were students and you’d got to your overdraft limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank bank??. Also, I think, physically and mentally we were shattered but,
you know, as we gradually got more on an even keel and we started to
get back into the black and we’d also worked tirelessly behind the
scenes to put support mechanisms in place including our legal team. The
response with the fund which was really driven by offers rather than us
thinking we needed it. And once these were in place then it helped us to
focus on what we really needed to focus on. http://news.sky.com/home/article/1267568

The full transcript is on the link, but video is gone. Perhaps we should save the transcript somewhere?

tigger, we've got a copy of this video amongst our collection now.

May I use this opportunity to appeal for more volunteers again? Several members have been diligently searching through the internet for McCann related video interviews but others were unable to complete their task for various reasons. I have too many business commitments right now to be able to dedicate much time to this project and need a few more helpers to fill the gaps. If anyone is feeling brave enough, please PM me. Obviously, you need an access to internet and if you can handle Excel, that would be a plus.
Your help will be really appreciated.

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Post by tigger on 04.06.13 5:32

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How to repair the toxic legacy of a bad mother
A book by a leading psychologist reveals how victims of mothers who were domineering, angry or just plain cold can turn the pain they suffered to their advantage
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 21:35 GMT, 6 June 2012 | UPDATED: 21:36 GMT, 6 June 2012
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Like it or not, our relationship with our mother will have a lifelong influence on our personality, behaviour and self-esteem. If we’re lucky, that legacy will be an overwhelmingly positive one.
But what happens when you are raised by a ‘difficult’ mother? It’s the subject tackled by a new book written by psychologist Dr Terri Apter.
In Difficult Mothers, the Cambridge academic examines the different types of problem mother — controlling, angry, hyper-critical, emotionally unavailable — and explains what can be done to turn her negative influence into a positive one.

[..]NARCISSISTIC MOTHER
The definition of a ‘narcissist’ is a person who is totally self-involved.
A mother with narcissistic tendencies will be largely unable to show the empathy that is so important to a healthy parent-child relationship, because she sees every request for attention by her child as competition.

Ego: A narcissistic mother craves attention and adoration
Tell her you’re tired, for example, and she’ll snap back: ‘Don’t talk to me about feeling tired. I’ve been hard at work all day. You don’t know what being really tired is.’
In her egotistical way, she also sees her offspring as a reflection of her; so her children must be outstanding in every aspect of their being to be ‘worthy’ of her.
It’s a bewildering and volatile situation, as any child of a narcissistic mother will be under constant pressure to be both subservient to his or her mother’s ego, yet expected to shine.
A narcissistic mother craves attention and adoration that comes from her own feelings of low self-worth. But no matter how hard you try to please her, you will live under a constant cloud of disdain, regardless of your efforts. Narcissists have fragile relationships with others, too — as their overblown ego means they often take offence at the smallest imagined slight and will suddenly cut people out of their lives or punish them in some way for ‘insulting’ them.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2155524/How-repair-toxic-legacy-bad-mother.html#ixzz2VDZCucDt

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Post by Guest on 04.06.13 8:45

This certainly brings back memories of my own mother who died more than 40 years ago.

I would say that she has had a positive influence on my life ever since - as a role model in how NOT to behave.

As for Kate, I wonder what sort of life she had as a child with a mother as arrogant and obnoxious as Susan Healy appears to be.
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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 04.06.13 9:18

I suppose judging parenthood is one of the most subjective of things. On the one hand you have the likes of Baby Peter's despicable mother, and on the other you have parents obsessed with micro-managing every second of their childs life for ultimate success (or the perception thereof). The McCann's would probably, aside from this unique case, have trundled along in a very mediocre fashion, parent-wise.

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Post by Nereid on 04.06.13 12:37

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:This certainly brings back memories of my own mother who died more than 40 years ago.

I would say that she has had a positive influence on my life ever since - as a role model in how NOT to behave.

As for Kate, I wonder what sort of life she had as a child with a mother as arrogant and obnoxious as Susan Healy appears to be.
What you said there has struck a chord with me! Very well put. My mum was a narcissist too.
I too wondered about Kate's childhood and upbringing. Narcissists usually come from narcissistic families themselves.

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Post by lj on 04.06.13 14:47

Very interesting thread!

I do believe they both are very narcissistic and egocentric (I know that's double up).

What is also very telling is Kate's description about their trouble getting pregnant and the need for IV fertilization treatment.
One of the first things doctors advice women, who have trouble conceiving, is to cut back on the exercising. Kate described that when she finally got pregnant with Madeleine, after all these years of trying and treatments, she cut back on exercising. So she never did that before. Very typical, wanting something but not wanting to make a small sacrifice for that.

Maybe she knew that at one time in her life she had to run and run and run....

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Re: Kate and Gerry as parents

Post by Pershing36 on 04.06.13 14:48

They always came across as bullies to me.

Right from the start when you see GM filmed on the airport bus, he is f-ing away in quite an intimidatory fashion. I was under the impression that some of the group he didn't know that well. If I was in a group and somebody started behaving that way I would be instantly wary of them.

He is the sort of chap in a pub you would stay well away from if he has had a sniff of the barmaids apron.

She comes across as a stroopy kind of sulker, the kind of person who stamps their feet and storms off if people don't bow down to them.

As a couple I can imagine them being quite volatile. From her own admission some of her language is clearly what you would use in a heated argument situation.

Just from the way I feel they came across, I could well see them bully people into going along with an invented story.
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Re: Kate and Gerry as parents

Post by Ayniia on 04.06.13 17:52

Gerry's bus comment was a very good insight to his personality, the true Gerry before the circus...
they are narcissistic yes, reading Kate "truthful account of events " called "madeleine " without capital M and that really bothers me, but reading that it's clear it's all about "me me me & Gerry " and let's not forget the sleeping times of them both and the twins. Really deep obsession in that. Very few words about Madeleine, just the occasional " I miss you so much! ". I don't want to say what I think of them as parents because I don't know them. But my dad was and still is the most narcissistic person I know, it's all about him, he's the center of the world and everything he does wrong is always someone else's fault. Some people are just too full of themselves. And about Kate and IVF and all about it being hard and painful... my mother used to look at me sometimes and say: giving birth to you was the worse pain ever ( plus she had complications after ) but it was worth it. In Kate's case ,she went trough IVF at her own will, IMO you don't go around saying how painful it was, your kids should be sufficient to surpass that!
Again about Gerry's bus comment, I see him as a male who helped basically nothing with chores or the kids. And to have that kind of comment in front of his kids, other's kids, an old lady just shows how he cares about others.

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Re: Kate and Gerry as parents

Post by Praiaaa on 04.06.13 18:32

I feel so sorry for the twins.
What Rothley parent would ever dare to let their DC to go for a sleepover chez Donatie and Whine?

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Post by Pershing36 on 04.06.13 20:25

@Ayniia wrote:Gerry's bus comment was a very good insight to his personality, the true Gerry before the circus...
they are narcissistic yes, reading Kate "truthful account of events " called "madeleine " without capital M and that really bothers me, but reading that it's clear it's all about "me me me & Gerry " and let's not forget the sleeping times of them both and the twins. Really deep obsession in that. Very few words about Madeleine, just the occasional " I miss you so much! ". I don't want to say what I think of them as parents because I don't know them. But my dad was and still is the most narcissistic person I know, it's all about him, he's the center of the world and everything he does wrong is always someone else's fault. Some people are just too full of themselves. And about Kate and IVF and all about it being hard and painful... my mother used to look at me sometimes and say: giving birth to you was the worse pain ever ( plus she had complications after ) but it was worth it. In Kate's case ,she went trough IVF at her own will, IMO you don't go around saying how painful it was, your kids should be sufficient to surpass that!
Again about Gerry's bus comment, I see him as a male who helped basically nothing with chores or the kids. And to have that kind of comment in front of his kids, other's kids, an old lady just shows how he cares about others.

Sums up what I feel, without the book stuff as I have never read it.

I have a mental picture of him doing everything he can not to be around when most needed. The tennis, the golf the membership of these unusual secret society type things. Doesn't give you the feeling of somebody who is desperate to spend as much time as he can with a young family. Especially if you factor in the long working hours of a consultant.

The pictures of the family unit with him smiling with the twins looked very staged. I have yet to see him in a picture with any of the children were he looks relaxed.

She gives me the impression of somebody who could be quite envious of the freedom of his lifestyle and finds the kids a bit of a tie.

Maybe I am totally wrong, they may be the best parents ever. If they are they obviously don't come across that way.
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