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Post by Tony Bennett on 30.11.09 20:21

Carter-Ruck represent the McCanns.

They also represent clients like Trafigura that kill Africans with poisonous toxic waste and hope Carter-Ruck will cover it all up.

So why is it that Debbie Butler has made constant reference over recent weeks to 'telling Carter-Ruck' this and that, in the hope that I will be subject to some form of further legal action?

Is it revenge of some kind?

And here is Ambersuz today doing the same on her Forum:

"I think CR will be interested in what I am going to post in a while...I've just been looking at some emails from Bennett..."

It looks like the 'Missing Madeleine' Forum is just a step away from opening a new thread: "Give us what you've got on Tony Bennett so we can tell Carter-Ruck all about it".
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Post by sunshine on 30.11.09 20:27

@Tony Bennett wrote:Carter-Ruck represent the McCanns.

They also represent clients like Trafigura that kill Africans with poisonous toxic waste and hope Carter-Ruck will cover it all up.

So why is it that Debbie Butler has made constant reference over recent weeks to 'telling Carter-Ruck' this and that, in the hope that I will be subject to some form of further legal action?

Is it revenge of some kind?

And here is Ambersuz today doing the same on her Forum:

"I think CR will be interested in what I am going to post in a while...I've just been looking at some emails from Bennett..."

It looks like the 'Missing Madeleine' Forum is just a step away from opening a new thread: "Give us what you've got on Tony Bennett so we can tell Carter-Ruck all about it".


Well debbie has been "tweeting" for information apparently.
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Post by baconbutty on 30.11.09 20:29

I'd say that Butler in particular is only a hairsbreadth away from being regarded as a vexatious complainant.
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Post by scampi on 30.11.09 20:35

She already is.
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Post by hentie on 30.11.09 20:44

She's certainly throwing it about Shocked ..............the allegations I mean roll
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 20:47

I think she's lost the plot to be honest.

It's a power struggle for the main players imo.
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Post by littlepixie on 30.11.09 20:52

I think she is being leaned on (very heavily) IMO. That is just my opinion. It is the only thing that could explain her behavior. I have thought that from her very first posts on the subject of the MF finances.

ETA. VERY HEAVILY.
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 21:04

@littlepixie wrote:I think she is being leaned on (very heavily) IMO. That is just my opinion. It is the only thing that could explain her behavior. I have thought that from her very first posts on the subject of the MF finances.

ETA. VERY HEAVILY.
Leaned on by who?
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Post by Autumn on 30.11.09 21:05

Tony, have you considered reporting the MM forum as I would have thought this is harrassment at the very least? If Debbie is behaving like this out of revenge, you need to take it seriosly and register your concerns with the appropriate authorities - its bad enough that she is threatening you on the internet but, given she knows your whereabouts, might she pose a serious danger to you. Apart from her allies on MM, does Ms Butler have friends and family who can talk to her and, if needs be, get her to the medical help she may require?
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 21:08

@Autumn wrote:Tony, have you considered reporting the MM forum as I would have thought this is harrassment at the very least? If Debbie is behaving like this out of revenge, you need to take it seriosly and register your concerns with the appropriate authorities - its bad enough that she is threatening you on the internet but, given she knows your whereabouts, might she pose a serious danger to you. Apart from her allies on MM, does Ms Butler have friends and family who can talk to her and, if needs be, get her to the medical help she may require?

Touching to show such concern about people's safety. Shame nobody thought about safety of the McCann twins when thier neighbours were leafleted accusing their parents of being involved in her disappearnace and death. And please, before you say it, everyone in the world is well aware the twins were left in the apartment with thier sister.
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Post by Autumn on 30.11.09 21:10

Raffles, I believe that someone was with Madeleine the night she vanished, so take care in future not to presume what my opinions are.

Bren by any chance? lol!
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 21:13

@Autumn wrote:Raffles, I believe that someone was with Madeleine the night she vanished, so take care in future not to presume what my opinions are.

Bren by any chance? lol!
Bren was in PDL? Are you kidding? affraid
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Post by hentie on 30.11.09 21:16

Autumn I agree with you.
It's gone on for long enough now and perhaps something needs to be done to make her see sense.
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Post by Autumn on 30.11.09 21:17

I think wel all be in therapy by the end of this lot bounce
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Post by Autumn on 30.11.09 21:28

Hentie, the problem is she is in too deep and has surrounded herself with those who do not care about her mental state and are happy to exploit her vunerabality. No doubt, Debbie has been under much stress throughout these last few months and she needs to take stock. The best thing she could do would be to unplug her pc for a month, and focus on lifes simple pleasures - just a walk in the countryside can be very theraputic or maybe a bit of yoga. The anger inside her will continue to eat away at her if she doesnt channel her negative feelings elsewhere - when i get wound up about things, I find a few games of tennis or cow racing on my wii console does wonders ☀
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Post by hentie on 30.11.09 21:38

Again I agree Autumn. It has gone too far and I'm worried there will be a casualty. A good friend to her would be asking her to reconsider her stance in all of this. As it is I believe she will end up the one in trouble.

The boxing on the wii gets rid of a lot of tension too Laughing but here the furniture suffers when the tennis is played Shocked lol!
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Post by Tony Bennett on 30.11.09 22:07

There has been a development.

According to the bonnybraes/JustAThought Forum, Brenda Ryan is now joining in the rush to help Carter-Ruck find enough evidence to bring me back to court for contempt of court. Posted tonight over thereL

I hear tell Bren has found a useful occupation for herself. She is screenshotting all the posts by Bennett on JKH [Jill havern's forum] so she can report him to CR if he says the wrong thing. You have to laugh - she and Debs are elbowing each other aside to grass Bennett to Carter-Ruck...

I hope they all don't perish with exhaustion from all their frenetic efforts.
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Post by Autumn on 30.11.09 22:09

Cow racing is my favourite as it doesn't require much skill. But the thing is, life is too short for all this fighting and, im afraid, both Debbie and ambersuz are going to end up consumed by their bitterness and anger. The kind of humour they share is quite twisted, laughing at people in a cruel way, can you imagine how much their families must relish having them round at xmas? roll
I just hope that Tony hasn't underestimated Debbie's mental state, and takes appropriate action for his own protection. The situation appears to be escalating with ambersuz starting even more threads about Tony - I think most of the remaining MM members have run for cover as it seems to be mainly ambersuz, debbie and bren on the 'Tony' section.
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Post by Autumn on 30.11.09 22:24

@Tony Bennett wrote:There has been a development.

According to the bonnybraes/JustAThought Forum, Brenda Ryan is now joining in the rush to help Carter-Ruck find enough evidence to bring me back to court for contempt of court. Posted tonight over thereL

I hear tell Bren has found a useful occupation for herself. She is screenshotting all the posts by Bennett on JKH [Jill havern's forum] so she can report him to CR if he says the wrong thing. You have to laugh - she and Debs are elbowing each other aside to grass Bennett to Carter-Ruck...

I hope they all don't perish with exhaustion from all their frenetic efforts.

They must feel so proud of themselves Shocked I never doubted for one moment that Debbie and Bren was in cahoots with CR and, almost certainly, Clarence Mitchell.
What do they care about justice for Madeleine - not a lot by the looks of it? Thank goodness, throughout all of this, you are still as committed as you ever were about seeking the truth as to what happened to Madeleine.
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 22:33

I never doubted for one moment that Debbie and Bren was in cahoots with CR and, almost certainly, Clarence Mitchell.

really?? Shocked roll

and when did this startling factlet impinge on your consciousness?
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 22:34

I don't think that Clarance Mitchell was ever in contact with Ms Butler at all. She preferred the company of Robert Murat, didn't she have an avatar of him when she was asking for his autograph?
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Post by hentie on 30.11.09 22:44

@Autumn wrote:Cow racing is my favourite as it doesn't require much skill. But the thing is, life is too short for all this fighting and, im afraid, both Debbie and ambersuz are going to end up consumed by their bitterness and anger. The kind of humour they share is quite twisted, laughing at people in a cruel way, can you imagine how much their families must relish having them round at xmas? roll
I just hope that Tony hasn't underestimated Debbie's mental state, and takes appropriate action for his own protection. The situation appears to be escalating with ambersuz starting even more threads about Tony - I think most of the remaining MM members have run for cover as it seems to be mainly ambersuz, debbie and bren on the 'Tony' section.

I find it cruel too and very sad. This situation and all the rotten offshoots have been triggered by the almost certain death of a child.....It's become like a pastime for some to spew out bile and rubbish........
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Post by Tony Bennett on 30.11.09 22:46

Raffle wrote:I don't think that Clarance Mitchell was ever in contact with Ms Butler at all. She preferred the company of Robert Murat, didn't she have an avatar of him when she was asking for his autograph?
Ms Butler has confirmed on the record about her conversations with Clarence Mitchell (and McCann-supporter Adrian Upshion/Deuce), but she never told anyone in The Madeleine Foundation about the contents of them. The last time she told me about one of her 'Clarence Conversations', which would have been in mid-to-late September, she told me she was planning to meet him in a cafe in London.

Ms Butler's avatar was a photo taken by me of her talking to Murat at the Cambridge Union meeting on 5 March 2009.

The meeting at which he said he would never speak about the Madeleine case ever again but maintained she had been abducted and that we should keep looking for her.

He said nothing in his speech about the long meeting he had with Brian Kennedy and Edward Smethurst that took place in Praia da Luz in November 2007.

Funny that.
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Post by Guest on 30.11.09 22:52

Am I detecting irritation that Ms Butler was consorting with the enemy Mr Bennett?

I thought your aim was to find out what happened to Madeleine? The same aim her parents and Mitchell have I shouldn't wonder.

What do you say to people's accusations that some of your actions have resulted in the idea that Madeleine is dead and unfindable to some people via your previous website and leaflets? Does that sit well with you that people think some of your actions have seriously harmed the hunt for Madeleine?

Are you bothered about the REAL ramifications of some of your actions or have you invested so much personal energy into the campaign you were involved in that you are no longer in a place to be objectionable in any way, shape or form?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 30.11.09 23:01

Raffle wrote:Am I detecting irritation that Ms Butler was consorting with the enemy Mr Bennett?

I thought your aim was to find out what happened to Madeleine? The same aim her parents and Mitchell have I shouldn't wonder.

What do you say to people's accusations that some of your actions have resulted in the idea that Madeleine is dead and unfindable to some people via your previous website and leaflets? Does that sit well with you that people think some of your actions have seriously harmed the hunt for Madeleine?

Are you bothered about the REAL ramifications of some of your actions or have you invested so much personal energy into the campaign you were involved in that you are no longer in a place to be objectionable in any way, shape or form?
Er, I think you mean 'objective'.

Answer me this.

Was Clarence Mitchell employed as the Director of the government's 40-strong Media Monitoring Unit, on a salary of £70,000-plus a year, to simply tell the truth - or to help ensure that so far as possible certain truths didn't come out?

Let me help you.

Here is on on-the-record quote from Clarence Mitchell: "Our job was to control what comes out in the media".

I wouldn't describe the attitude of myself or other members as 'irritated' with Debbie Butler going off on her own and having several late night chats with Clarence Mitchell.

'Very concerned' is how I would put it.

I'm not allowed to repeat allegations I previously made about the McCanns, but I seriously doubt if any one person who had been actively looking for Madeleine was persuaded to suddenly stop doing so by reading our booklet or leaflet.
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