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Post by tiny 08.05.12 19:55

I have come to the conclusion that the sun employs numbnuts,having read the shite they dish up.
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Post by tigger 08.05.12 19:55

candyfloss wrote:Well they have the check in details of this family, their names and addresses no doubt, shouldn't be to hard to trace should they? Unless of course it is a false name, which I very much doubt.

If the police did nothing as this woman says (hmmm) then why didn't she phone the McCanns hotline if she was so sure? Their crack PI's could have had it solved in no time.

And there was a 2/3 million pounds reward for whoever found her! Even if she didn't hear about that for a few days, I'm pretty sure she would have - the news was full of it.

Perhaps thats what we should be asking these shrinking violets: Weren't you interested in getting millions in return for your information?

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Post by jay2001 08.05.12 20:53

I'm sick of these crap stories in the Uk press and most of the mindless morons who comment. They bash the PJ and Portugal. Well, the PJ and Portugal didn't 'lose' Maddie so why should they be punished, when the real culprits go unpunished.
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Post by sharonl 08.05.12 23:51

05.08.2012 - 19:06 clock
ANDREAS TIMME

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German news report - apologies for the translation

London / Fuengirola (Spain) - There was a brief glimmer of hope for the parents of little Maddie: A witness had reported to the British police and reported having seen shortly after Maddie's disappearance an intimidated blonde girl in Spain - in the company of a German tourist family . But now seems clear that the suspicion against the family is wrong!

Witness Karen Sisson was then on a camping holiday near Fuengirola (Málaga in). On 6 May is a German family traveled with a caravan, she said, according to the British "Sun". Numerous media outlets, including BILD.de had reported on the newly sprouted hope.

For 5 years vermisstMaddies parents do not give up hope

When the family was a little girl was that wearing a pink T-shirt, shorts and a beige hat and acted entirely absent, the witness reported. With her blonde straight hair they have clearly distinguished from the other two children, two curly heads. "It was strange," said Karen Sisson in "The Sun".

Meanwhile came out: It was the family of M. Karsten (41) - a German who lives in Switzerland. Karsten M. admitted to BILD information meeting on Tuesday to have made in May 2007 with his family on camping holidays.

The girl who witnessed Karen Sisson thought Maddie was obviously Karsten Ms own daughter. It is the same age as Maddie. The other two children were among the heads of curls M. According to friends from Switzerland, who were there to visit.

Karsten M. remembers well that the campground was full time with wanted posters of Maddie. He himself was not until 18 May 2007 stayed there.

MYSTERY SOLVED BY CAR PLATE

Even the mystery of a no longer existing license plate was supposed to be solved now. The British "Sun" reported in error, the Mercedes Vito German holidaymakers have a license plate with the placemark BE - worn Beckum in Westphalia - one in 1974 pulled off the road placemark.

After image information was in fact but a Swiss license plates - BE stands for Bern.

Maddie McCann called, was on 3 May 2007 just days before her fourth birthday from a holiday resort on the Algarve coast in southern Portugal disappeared. Together with her parents and two younger siblings, she was there on vacation. Kate and Gerry McCann are looking for five years after her daughter's world and have never given up hope of finding them alive.
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Post by MrsDoubtful 09.05.12 7:15

sharonl wrote:05.08.2012 - 19:06 clock
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London / Fuengirola (Spain) - There was a brief glimmer of hope for the parents of little Maddie: A witness had reported to the British police and reported having seen shortly after Maddie's disappearance an intimidated blonde girl in Spain - in the company of a German tourist family . But now seems clear that the suspicion against the family is wrong!

Witness Karen Sisson was then on a camping holiday near Fuengirola (Málaga in). On 6 May is a German family traveled with a caravan, she said, according to the British "Sun". Numerous media outlets, including BILD.de had reported on the newly sprouted hope.

For 5 years vermisstMaddies parents do not give up hope

When the family was a little girl was that wearing a pink T-shirt, shorts and a beige hat and acted entirely absent, the witness reported. With her blonde straight hair they have clearly distinguished from the other two children, two curly heads. "It was strange," said Karen Sisson in "The Sun".

Meanwhile came out: It was the family of M. Karsten (41) - a German who lives in Switzerland. Karsten M. admitted to BILD information meeting on Tuesday to have made in May 2007 with his family on camping holidays.

The girl who witnessed Karen Sisson thought Maddie was obviously Karsten Ms own daughter. It is the same age as Maddie. The other two children were among the heads of curls M. According to friends from Switzerland, who were there to visit.

Karsten M. remembers well that the campground was full time with wanted posters of Maddie. He himself was not until 18 May 2007 stayed there.

MYSTERY SOLVED BY CAR PLATE

Even the mystery of a no longer existing license plate was supposed to be solved now. The British "Sun" reported in error, the Mercedes Vito German holidaymakers have a license plate with the placemark BE - worn Beckum in Westphalia - one in 1974 pulled off the road placemark.

After image information was in fact but a Swiss license plates - BE stands for Bern.

Maddie McCann called, was on 3 May 2007 just days before her fourth birthday from a holiday resort on the Algarve coast in southern Portugal disappeared. Together with her parents and two younger siblings, she was there on vacation. Kate and Gerry McCann are looking for five years after her daughter's world and have never given up hope of finding them alive.

Well what a surprise. I get so fed up of crap on the telly about this child. Its obvious this is BOGUS for so many reasons.

Even on Daybreak that excuse for a profiler whatever his name is said it was bogus.

Yet Daybreak still puts the news out about this sighting as though it is real. For gods sake, it was just a family trying to enjoy themselves. That child is hardly going to be seen in the open.

And if she was snatched on the 3rd where were the family for 3 days lol...i would hardly think a big mercedes pulling a caravan would be invisible in prai de luz.

Madness, and clutching at straws. Blah.
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Post by Me 09.05.12 8:11

Well there's a surprise, a new "lead" bites the dust.

How long we betting before another one comes up?

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Post by aiyoyo 09.05.12 8:35

One down and another 194 to go. If they are going to spin one every anniversary, a few generation of people will still be talking about the mccanns in nearly two centuries!
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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 8:50

I have posted this information in the OP.
So let us see how long it takes for Sun, Mail, Mirror et al. to print an article saying they were mistaken.
Small prize for first person to spot one !
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Post by tigger 09.05.12 8:52

PeterMac wrote:I have posted this information in the OP.
So let us see how long it takes for Sun, Mail, Mirror et al. to print an article saying they were mistaken.
Small prize for first person to spot one !

Wasn't there once a newspaper which prided itself on being: 'First with the news - first with the corrections!'

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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 8:57

tigger wrote:
Wasn't there once a newspaper which prided itself on being: 'First with the news - first with the corrections!'
I think there was , but they had to issue a correction.
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Post by russiandoll 09.05.12 9:19

Cannot find it on their website, Daybreak this morning reported from the Spanish campsite, they believe that police are treating this new lead seriously, reported at the time to Portuguese police [ no mention of Spanish ploice or the hotline] and not followed up. Again the definite insinuation that this vital lead was reported by a concerned individual but ignored by Portuguese authorities.
The description of the child and why thought to be Maddie given, the reporter itemised 3 clues each being evidence of something increasingly suspicious [ not stated if this was a police or media opinion]
the fact child seemed drugged, disengaged from family, fitted description.
additional child on booking form.
dodgy number plates.
All very upbeat,actualy going so far as to speculate would this not be wonderful if Maddie whose birthday is this week, could be reunited with her family due to this lead now finally being followed up.

So a blonde child arouses suspicion, straight not curly hair.
Disengaged? Maybe fed up, drugged., overtired, too much sun? Fitted description..why mention the shorts top and sunhat, common child attire on a holiday here..oh yes the pool photo, the perp looked in the dark for the outfit she wore earlier that day? dodgy number plates.....really?



There was a studio discussion including Mark Williams Thomas who remained very neutral commenting on the many problems with so many sightings being reported since 2007 and the numerous ones that flow in upon publication of a photo.
He said the interesting stuff will not be what is in the media, but what is happening behind the scenes.

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Post by MrsDoubtful 09.05.12 11:00

russiandoll wrote: Cannot find it on their website, Daybreak this morning reported from the Spanish campsite, they believe that police are treating this new lead seriously, reported at the time to Portuguese police [ no mention of Spanish ploice or the hotline] and not followed up. Again the definite insinuation that this vital lead was reported by a concerned individual but ignored by Portuguese authorities.
The description of the child and why thought to be Maddie given, the reporter itemised 3 clues each being evidence of something increasingly suspicious [ not stated if this was a police or media opinion]
the fact child seemed drugged, disengaged from family, fitted description.
additional child on booking form.
dodgy number plates.
All very upbeat,actualy going so far as to speculate would this not be wonderful if Maddie whose birthday is this week, could be reunited with her family due to this lead now finally being followed up.

So a blonde child arouses suspicion, straight not curly hair.
Disengaged? Maybe fed up, drugged., overtired, too much sun? Fitted description..why mention the shorts top and sunhat, common child attire on a holiday here..oh yes the pool photo, the perp looked in the dark for the outfit she wore earlier that day? dodgy number plates.....really?



There was a studio discussion including Mark Williams Thomas who remained very neutral commenting on the many problems with so many sightings being reported since 2007 and the numerous ones that flow in upon publication of a photo.
He said the interesting stuff will not be what is in the media, but what is happening behind the scenes.

Hi Russiandoll yes I saw it. At least Mark Williams who usually drives me nuts actually said it was probably a waste of time etc in words you more or less have used. I did send a message to daybreak about it but my post doesnt appear what a surprise.

Anyone with half a brain surely would know this is bogus, rubbish.

I get so sick of it all. The thing is IF the child was abducted by a baddy all these sightings are hardly helping find her because people are just switching off to it all. I mean who could ever believe Maddy was snatched on the 3rd May in Portugal and 3 days later was holidaying in Spain its just such a WTF moment its laughable.
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Post by aiyoyo 09.05.12 11:12

PeterMac wrote:I have posted this information in the OP.
So let us see how long it takes for Sun, Mail, Mirror et al. to print an article saying they were mistaken.
Small prize for first person to spot one !

Er...What's an OP?
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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 11:26

The Olive Press, a free paper in Southern Spain, run by Jon Clarke. web site [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
A lot of the stories seem to originate from here, Angolan bouncers, 'sightings' in Nerja or Sotogrande or wherever, and are billed as "Exclusive" by Jon Clarke, only to appear in the Sun within hours billed as "exclusive by Antonella"
If you read the piece about the Angolan Bouncer on MF site, which is still there and is worth saving as a pdf you will see a lot of details.

Jon is very touchy about being linked with News International.

It is very unclear what his role in all this actually is.
He claims to have been in PdL "that fateful morning", which would have meant getting up around 6am.
He then re-visited four or five times over the next six months.
As matter of record his first article on the subject in his own newspaper, Olive Press, was 24th October. almost 6 months after the event.
The rest of the time he was syndicating it to the Sun. With which he denies any formal link.
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Post by Shibboleth 09.05.12 12:43

But it was proved, nothing wrong with the number-plate. It is not on a German car, but a Swiss one, even with a Swiss flag on it. The BE is for Berne. Of course, the press will not put this in, as it spoils their story somewhat.

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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 14:37

Mercifully the Mail have put the facts on line.
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'That wasn't Maddie... it was my daughter': Swiss father says he was mystery man seen driving blonde girl identical to Madeleine days after she vanished
Karsten Mayer was spotted by British holidaymaker with girl who looked 'groggy'
But Swiss native insists girl with him was his own daughter
By ALLAN HALL

PUBLISHED: 10:31 GMT, 9 May 2012 | UPDATED: 11:19 GMT, 9 May 2012
A Swiss father-of-three is being interviewed by police today after it emerged he was the mystery man seen driving from the camping ground with a girl who looked like Maddie McCann days after she vanished in 2007.

Karsten Mayer, 41, is a German-speaking Swiss native who lives near the capital Bern whose own daughter was in the family car and who, he says, was mistaken for the missing toddler by a British eyewitness.
The potential sighting came three days after Madeleine was abducted from Praia da Luz in Portugal, a few hours drive away.

Sighting: A blonde girl identical to Madeleine McCann was seen with a German family at the Cabopino campsite on Spain's Costa del Sol (pictured) just three days after the British toddler went missing five years ago
It emerged yesterday that British detectives investigating her disappearance have been told the German family paid extra after arriving at the campsite with one more child than expected on May 6, 2007, according to The Sun.
But Mr Mayer, who was spotted with the blonde girl, has since insisted the youngster was not Madeleine, and was infact his own daughter.
Mr Mayer also pledged to speak to police to clear himself of any connection to missing Madeleine following the media reports yesterday.
Missing: Madeleine was abducted from Praia da Luz in Portugal, a few hours drive away from the Spanish campsite, in May 2007

'I am turning myself over to police,' said Mr Mayer, a self employed businessman, 'before these media reports get me arrested.'

He told Blick, Switzerland's biggest daily paper; 'I did have a girl around about Maddie's age in the car - she was my own daughter who also happens to have blonde coloured hair and was about the same age as Maddie at the time.'
Karen Sisson, 49, the British woman who reported the sighting to police, said the girl 'looked groggy' and seemingly 'alienated' from the family she was with. She said the car had German plates that began with BE.
But the BE registration for the town and district of Beckum in western Germany went out of use 38 years ago.
Journalists in Switzerland used the number of the car to trace Mr Mayer to his home near Bern - BE standing for cars registered to the city and surrounding area.
Mr Mayer added; 'I was at the camping ground with my family. It is really unbelievable that I am some kind of suspect because we read about Maddie's disappearance on a notice at the campsite. We were shocked and we felt for the parents.
'It is quite possible that my daughter appeared distant. She was tired after a very long road trip.

The blonde girl was with a German family driving a Mercedes Vito people carrier (pictured) that was first manufactured in 1996
Parents: Kate and Gerry McCann pose with an artist's impression of how their daughter might look now at the age of nine
'We spent 12 days at the camping ground we journeyed further around Portugal. I don't think a kidnapper would have done that.
'I find these media reports about me unbelievable and am reporting to police immediately before I am arrested!'
CID officers in Bern say that he has already 'all but' been ruled out of enquiries.

They beat me to it. I had already found his telephone number and was planning to ring him tonight. (I speak German and Schweizerdeutsch in case anyone wants to know)
The highlighted bit is one of the most chilling.
The McCanns, Mitchell, and Carter-ruck can now apparently get anyone they want arrested or imprisoned anywhere in Europe merely on their say so.
So long as they have a blonde child between 3 and 10 years old, of course, or say something TM don't agree with.

I think this man and his wife have been seriously defamed by the Sun and the Olive Press. Specifically by Jon and Antonella.
TM insist that Madeleine was abducted by a predatory Pae***. They have remained firm in that statement
It follows therefore that if they accuse anyone of having done so, they are clearly implying that that person is guilty of
1 Child Abduction
2 Unlawful sexual activity with a minor

The issue of unlawful imprisonment if the man is 'detained' for any length of time whilst he is questioned also arises.
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Post by Guest 09.05.12 14:48

It's despicable and appalling that one day later the papers manage to get the truth. They could check all this out before printing these stories. They seem to do this again and again. The Morocco sighting, the Leh sighting and now this, just a few that I remember off hand. How can they ruin peoples lives like this. Someone should be held to account for printing this rubbish, and also the person who is feeding them the stories. angry2
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Post by tigger 09.05.12 15:03

PeterMac wrote:
I think this man and his wife have been seriously defamed by the Sun and the Olive Press. Specifically by Jon and Antonella.
TM insist that Madeleine was abducted by a predatory Pae***. They have remained firm in that statement
It follows therefore that if they accuse anyone of having done so, they are clearly implying that that person is guilty of
1 Child Abduction
2 Unlawful sexual activity with a minor

The issue of unlawful imprisonment if the man is 'detained' for any length of time whilst he is questioned also arises.
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Although he has Swiss nationality, I understand that anyone can sue for libel in the UK if the libel originates there? In that case we might give him the address of Carter Ruck?
(I'm most impressed that you speak Schweizerdeutsch - friend of mine was under the impression when first addressed in this language that the man was suffering serious stomach cramps...)



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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 15:21

tigger wrote:
(I'm most impressed that you speak Schweizerdeutsch - friend of mine was under the impression when first addressed in this language that the man was suffering serious stomach cramps...)
The Swiss themselves describe it as a "Halskrankheit" an "illness of the throat"
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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 15:26

incredibly the Sun have actually put up my comment.


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Now that we know that this was yet another bogus 'sighting', can we consider the defamatory aspect of this. TM INSIST that Madeleine was 'Abducted" by a Predatory Pae***, and have never resiled from that position. If you start investigating a person, simply because he is with a blonde girl of that age, you are very clearly accusing that person of being both. Quite apart from messing up his day and possible causing his false arrest. The Sun, and the Olive Press over here, have put this man's name out into the public domain. There is going to come a point at which people begin to start objecting to the way NI behaves. (Oh, just a minute, there is an enquiry on TV at the moment... ! ) Investigative journalism is wonderful, but it must work in the background, finding FACTS, not repeated un-evidenced rantings.
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Pickles 99, this was not ignored by the PJ. If it was ignored at all it was by the Spanish police. But why haven'y you asked why the mccann's detectives or the Brtiish police didn't follow this up, seeing as she said in another newspaper that she reported it through hotlines? Still all a bit irrelevant now isn't it?, as it's another bogus sighting. People need to stop believing every little blonde child is madeleine mccann
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For those who don't know already, the family were from Switzerland, hence the BERN registration, and it was their own daughter. New 'sighting' follows in 20 minutes.
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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 17:33

And now OP have published the new article.

Spanish Maddie mystery solved
PUBLISHED: MAY 9, 2012 AT 4:49 PM • LAST EDITED: MAY 9, 2012 AT 4:49 PM

• 'MADDIE' SPOTTED ON CABOPINO CAMPSITE WAS ACTUALLY KARSTEN MAYER'S DAUGHTER

THE mystery has been solved over a possible Maddie sighting on the Costa del Sol.
Karsten Mayer, whose name has appeared in newspapers around the world in the last few days, has come forward to insist he has nothing to do with the inquiry.
The Swiss father-of-three was traced after the Olive Press handed details over to the police and German media.
Swiss detectives are now believed to be interviewing the 41-year-old, who voluntarily went to the police.
He confirmed that he had been at the campsite in Cabopino just days after the toddler vanished in 2007 but that the blond girl mistaken for Maddie was in fact his own daughter who was the same age.
“I did have a girl around about Maddie’s age in the car – she was my own daughter who also happens to have blonde coloured hair and was about the same age as Maddie at the time,” said Mayer, a German-speaking Swiss native who lives near the capital Bern.
“I was at the camping ground with my family. It is really unbelievable that I am some kind of suspect because we read about Maddie’s disappearance on a notice at the campsite. We were shocked and we felt for the parents.
“It is quite possible that my daughter appeared distant. She was tired after a very long road trip.
“We spent 12 days at the camping ground we journeyed further around Portugal. I don’t think a kidnapper would have done that.”
It comes a day after it emerged British mother-of-two Karen Sissons, 49, had contacted police in three different countries after becoming concerned about a girl on a campsite who did not speak and seemed ‘out of it and extremely removed from her family.’
Even more intriguingly, detectives investigating the British toddler’s disappearance had been told a German family had paid a supplement for an extra child after arriving at the campsite on May 6, 2007.
And it was discovered the numberplate recorded by the campsite, which began ‘BE’ with five letters has not been used in Germany since 1974.
However the number plate has since been traced to Mayer’s home near Bern.
“I find these media reports about me unbelievable and am reporting to police immediately before I am arrested!” added the self-employed businessman.
I don't know if this will see the light of day
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I do not see an apology anywhere in this article. This man’s personal details, his family, details of his car and his address, have been put into the public domain; he has been forced to take time to clear his name; he had been linked in the press with an investigation into an ‘abduction’ and paedo***, yet there is no apology, either from you or from Karen. He knows he is in danger of being arrested – for the crime of being a family man with a blonde daughter. Are we all now at the mercy of the press feeding frenzy stirred up by the McCanns ? Coming to a beach near you this summer….. !
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Post by Miraflores 09.05.12 17:37

Do the McCanns ever offer an apology to those wrongly accused of being abductors?

OK, silly question. I am pretty sure the answer is NO.
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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 17:44

But will the press apologise ?
They might if lawyers got there fairly soon.

Still fascinating that in the article he blithers on about the number plate, but never says "The witness was unreliable" leaving the public with the idea that a German plate, out of date and so on had been traced to this man's car.

"Karsten Mayer, whose name has appeared in newspapers around the world in the last few days, has come forward to insist he has nothing to do with the inquiry."
This is the new McCann order. You have to come forward and rule yourself OUT. It is not for police and journalists to find some evidence against you. A blonde daughter, or blonde friend of your own daughter, or any combination involving blonde is enough to have you condemned in newspapers across the world, as a likely suspect in a most serious crime.
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Post by Genbug 09.05.12 17:59

PeterMac wrote:But will the press apologise ?
They might if lawyers got there fairly soon.

Still fascinating that in the article he blithers on about the number plate, but never says "The witness was unreliable" leaving the public with the idea that a German plate, out of date and so on had been traced to this man's car.

"Karsten Mayer, whose name has appeared in newspapers around the world in the last few days, has come forward to insist he has nothing to do with the inquiry."
This is the new McCann order. You have to come forward and rule yourself OUT. It is not for police and journalists to find some evidence against you. A blonde daughter, or blonde friend of your own daughter, or any combination involving blonde is enough to have you condemned in newspapers across the world, as a likely suspect in a most serious crime.

This is disgusting, I've just checked all of the news sites - Sky, BBC, ITN - and not one of them are reporting this.
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Post by jmac 09.05.12 18:01

Pure farce, if it wasn`t so serious.
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Post by nomendelta 09.05.12 18:08

More and more I am convinced that the photofit was designed and timed purely for this kind of response.

Isn't it interesting...a photofit which may not (indeed probably not) look anything like Maddie (in the unlikely situation whereby she is still alive) but certainly is bland enough to look like thousands of young girls, many of whom will be holidaying in Portugal and the Costa Del Sol is released for the public to do their job. Yet we know nothing of the 195 pieces of evidence. Surely rather than this complete timewaste, SY should be publicising SOME of these "loose ends" (and perhaps I am being generous even describing them thusly but let's give benefit of the doubt) so that, as in this campsite horror story, the individuals involved or the public at large can help identify the false leads? Or would that involve revealing just how many of the 195 leads are indeed false?
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Post by PeterMac 09.05.12 18:48

And I bet they won't print this either.


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I intend to phone him this evening to apologise on behalf of most of us, and to reassure him that not all Brits in Spain behave in this way. I am APPALLED at what you have done to this family. This should have been investigated quietly and discreetly, until the full facts were known. I hope you have the good grace to pay whatever you made by syndicating the article to “newspapers around the world in the last few days” (Your words !) to him or with his consent to a proper Charity dedicated to Children. A proper Charity that is.

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Post by jay2001 09.05.12 19:03

I wasted 15 minutes trying to send a message to Daily Wail this morning. Asking for a retraction and for them to print the full facts, but after finding out my password again every time I pressed submit I got 'cut off' and gave up.

Investigative journalism is truly dead in the UK and I despair. Well the Wail has now printed the facts about the Swiss father and one clown commenting wanted to know why we couldn't see a pic of his child. Presumably this clown didn't believe him! Reading comments from mindless morons on the sun and wail make me want to give up. They trash PJ and Portugal and can't see just how corrupt SY and the UK media is.

I thank God for the net and forums because otherwise I'd go potty! Mom and OH have banned me talking about the case now after blood pressure went sky high today after the stories from the last 2 days!
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Post by statsman 09.05.12 19:35

I wouldn't be surprised if TM demanded to see a current picture of Karsten's child. After all, if she looked just like Madeleine 5 years ago then she may be a better resemblance to what Madeleine looks like now than the SY picture.

I really wouldn't put it past them

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Post by friedtomatoes 09.05.12 19:47

statsman wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if TM demanded to see a current picture of Karsten's child. After all, if she looked just like Madeleine 5 years ago then she may be a better resemblance to what Madeleine looks like now than the SY picture.

I really wouldn't put it past them


They should be writing a letter of apology instead as should that sisson cross eyed woman! the lazyarse sun woman and the jon from olive press
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