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Post by friedtomatoes on 06.05.12 18:36

cheers

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Post by monkey mind on 06.05.12 19:21

never mind
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Post by tuom on 07.05.12 15:27

@friedtomatoes wrote:cheers



busy thread this !!!!!
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Post by uppatoffee on 07.05.12 15:34

They haven't found a body yet.
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Post by nomendelta on 07.05.12 15:57

@uppatoffee wrote:They haven't found a body yet.

A perfectly valid point. However let's apply that exact same logic. The McCanns contend that Maddie was abducted. There is a decided sparsity of evdience that in any way supports this - other than statements, nothing physical seems to have been traced whcih would confirm an actual abductor took Maddie. Nothing, not one iota of independent, verifiable evidence. And given that Maddie is the highest profile "missing" girl in the whole wide world the notion that some childless couple kept and raised her as their own is indeed highly unlikely - someone would have talked by now. Certainly someone with something more convincing than the sightings we've had to date.

So whilst a body hasn't been found, evidence for an abduction hasn't either. Blood and death scent WERE found though. So although there's no body, that scent, the fact a child is missing married with the fact that nobody else had died in that apartment leads to a pretty obvious conclusion. So there's more evidence she's dead than that she's alive. Indeed the notion that, even if we swallow the abduction hypothesis, that she'd be kidnapped by a childless couple or something similar is so "out there" and unlikely that alien abduction would be more credible.

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Alien abduction why have TM not raised this as a theory? It's as plausible as there other offerings

Post by FH on 07.05.12 16:38

I think there is more credible evidence that alien abductions actually take place, than that Madeleine was abducted. There is certainly more video and cctv footage of UFO's and in case anyone thinks I'm losing the plot "unexplained" flying objects - doesn't mean they come from outerspace, just means they are unexplained.

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Post by nomendelta on 07.05.12 17:00

Hey you've just unconciously stumbled on the solution to this whether to use the word "mystery" business.

Just as UFOs are Unidentified Flying Objects poor little Maddie is a IMC - an Inexplicably Missing Child.

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Alien abduction it is then ?

Post by FH on 07.05.12 17:53

Given the definition of alien :-

a·li·en (l-n, lyn)

adj.
1. Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign: alien residents.
2. Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange. See Synonyms at foreign.
3. Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed, as in nature: emotions alien to her temperament.
n.
1. An unnaturalized foreign resident of a country. Also called noncitizen.
2. A person from another and very different family, people, or place.
3. A person who is not included in a group; an outsider.
4. A creature from outer space: a story about an invasion of aliens.
5. Ecology An organism, especially a plant or animal, that occurs in or is naturalized in a region to which it is not native.
tr.v. a·li·ened, a·li·en·ing, a·li·ens Law
To transfer (property) to another; alienate.

Then assuming she was abducted by someone NOT Portuguese the TM scenario could be described as alien abduction. Then again the definition of abduction is :-

abduction [æbˈdʌkʃən]
n
1. the act of taking someone away by force or cunning; kidnapping
2. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Physiology) the action of certain muscles in pulling a leg, arm, etc. away from the median axis of the body

Was there any force used that we are aware of. Perhaps someone should sue TM for the use of the word abduction - if mystery isn't allowed, then .......

Perhaps alien removal

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Post by friedtomatoes on 07.05.12 20:13

Thanks all.

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Post by Fred Up on 07.05.12 20:47

Me, me! I have one! I have one!

The McCanns say so. That's a fact.

Isn't it?

Where's my Scooby snack?

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Post by friedtomatoes on 07.05.12 20:51

Now they have hauled out Elizabeth Smart to support them. How painfully obvious is it that there is an orchestrated campaign going on and has been since the beginning. f only their fund was as transparent.

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Post by friedtomatoes on 07.05.12 20:55

@Fred Up wrote:Me, me! I have one! I have one!

The McCanns say so. That's a fact.

Isn't it?

Where's my Scooby snack?

The cases they quote as support are irrelevant. Teenagers taken for sexual abuse. Children taken by family members. What loving childless couple abduct a four year old? Instead of adopting or buying.

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Post by aiyoyo on 07.05.12 22:58

Come on, dont be silly. Of course she is dead.

If a paedo took her, their trademark is to kill the victim within hours.

If she was taken by a childless couple, then the couple cant be nice or decent , as no decent people would send a gang round to abduct her or buy a child off a criminal gang. Decent people adopt.

Besides, decent couple would have thought of her welfare and return her long ago, else how are they going to send her to school or allow her yo socialise with others without threat of being found out.
Come on we are talking about the most high profile missing child in history with a distinctive birthmark.
So what are the chances of her being with a decent family? ZERO.

That leaves out what - who else can take her and for what purpose? Not a paedo, not a nice couple, so where is she?
There is only one obvious answer - she is dead.

She is only alive in theory because her parents claimed so. Is there proof of it? NO. So her parents must be lying - simple.






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Post by jd on 07.05.12 23:05

Creating an abduction was the only way to not have a body
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Post by Newintown on 07.05.12 23:06

@aiyoyo wrote:Come on, dont be silly. Of course she is dead.

If a paedo took her, their trademark is to kill the victim within hours.

If she was taken by a childless couple, then the couple cant be nice or decent , as no decent people would send a gang round to abduct her or buy a child off a criminal gang. Decent people adopt.

Besides, decent couple would have thought of her welfare and return her long ago, else how are they going to send her to school or allow her yo socialise with others without threat of being found out.
Come on we are talking about the most high profile missing child in history with a distinctive birthmark.
So what are the chances of her being with a decent family? ZERO.

That leaves out what - who else can take her and for what purpose? Not a paedo, not a nice couple, so where is she?
There is only one obvious answer - she is dead.

She is only alive in theory because her parents claimed so. Is there proof of it? NO. So her parents must be lying - simple.


If she also needed medical attention at a doctor's surgery or at a hospital she would be recognised surely if she had the mark in her eye and the birthmark on the back of her leg.

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Post by jd on 07.05.12 23:08

They have done everything they possibly could to not have a body...as they have proven
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Post by monkey mind on 07.05.12 23:10

@Fred Up wrote:Me, me! I have one! I have one!

The McCanns say so. That's a fact.

Isn't it?

Where's my Scooby snack?
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Post by monkey mind on 07.05.12 23:13

@Fred Up wrote:Me, me! I have one! I have one!

The McCanns say so. That's a fact.

Isn't it?

Where's my Scooby snack?

Hahahaaaarff!! Hahaaaarfff!!!!!

Best answer of the day. Only answer actually.

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Post by tuom on 07.05.12 23:19

@friedtomatoes wrote:Now they have hauled out Elizabeth Smart to support them. How painfully obvious is it that there is an orchestrated campaign going on and has been since the beginning. f only their fund was as transparent.



Where is it said that they have quoted The Elizabeth Smart case , the only reason I ask this is that this story (E.Smart) was shown on Irish television this week just past and I found it strange as it is an old case , I have seen it on several programmes (Forensic Detectives, Mystery programmes etc) I have mentioned this on a post earlier this week and I watched it ........... why now ??
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Post by jd on 07.05.12 23:31

@tuom wrote:
@friedtomatoes wrote:Now they have hauled out Elizabeth Smart to support them. How painfully obvious is it that there is an orchestrated campaign going on and has been since the beginning. f only their fund was as transparent.



Where is it said that they have quoted The Elizabeth Smart case , the only reason I ask this is that this story (E.Smart) was shown on Irish television this week just past and I found it strange as it is an old case , I have seen it on several programmes (Forensic Detectives, Mystery programmes etc) I have mentioned this on a post earlier this week and I watched it ........... why now ??

Why do you think Tuom winkwink
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first you need to tell us how to define alive?

Post by FH on 08.05.12 0:07

I am not religious. I have no belief in an after life. I have no problem with other people believing, but I am perfectly happy to lie with the worms when my time comes. However, for people of a religious persuasion, then I'm sure that it would be straightforward to assert that someone who has "gone"/"been taken"/"passed over"/"insert any other euphemism you like" is still alive to them. If there is an after life ( I will have to apologise profusely to god/jesus/mohammed/whoever.... if there is) then she is alive, not in her earthly form, but spiritually, out there somewhere.

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Post by jd on 08.05.12 0:33

Maddie came down spiritually in the form of a butterfly when the mccanns met the Pope big grin Oh I forgot, this was a famous story associated to Bath theatre where clarence eden mitchell was living at the time...course this butterfly (which nobody saw) was Maddie

Lets not forget the physic Diane Lazarus predicted a moth type butterfly would descend! You couldn't write it and make it believable
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Post by tuom on 08.05.12 14:10

@jd wrote:
@tuom wrote:
@friedtomatoes wrote:Now they have hauled out Elizabeth Smart to support them. How painfully obvious is it that there is an orchestrated campaign going on and has been since the beginning. f only their fund was as transparent.



Where is it said that they have quoted The Elizabeth Smart case , the only reason I ask this is that this story (E.Smart) was shown on Irish television this week just past and I found it strange as it is an old case , I have seen it on several programmes (Forensic Detectives, Mystery programmes etc) I have mentioned this on a post earlier this week and I watched it ........... why now ??

Why do you think Tuom



I Know ! Just thought I put it out there anyway
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Post by david_uk on 08.05.12 16:30

Even if a body was found, it would still need to be proved who took her, who killed her and how. And as the Mccanns say they have nothing with her disappearance, they would I imagine say that the abductor was responsible. Assuming that the DNA evidence has been dismissed already, would the case be at in exactly the same situation with or without a body?. At what point is chasing the sightings going to stop and one of these reviewers suggests looking for a body I wonder? This is only logical is it not, as people could be ringing in sightings 24/7 for the foreseeable future?!

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butterflies

Post by FH on 08.05.12 23:06

@jd wrote:Maddie came down spiritually in the form of a butterfly when the mccanns met the Pope Oh I forgot, this was a famous story associated to Bath theatre where clarence eden mitchell was living at the time...course this butterfly (which nobody saw) was Maddie

Lets not forget the physic Diane Lazarus predicted a moth type butterfly would descend! You couldn't write it and make it believable

So Maddie is alive, probably living with kindly childless parents in a scandinavian country and she can shape shift into the form of a Butterfly and fly to Italy - seems slightly more believable than some of the things I've read.

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