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Irwin and Sperrey statements?

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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Gillyspot on 15.08.11 22:25

Why did the PJ ask the McCanns and pals about the Irwins.

Rachel Oldfield

Questioned, she said that on Thursday, 03/05/2007, there was no body sitting at the table, strange to the group, and she does not know anyone with the name "IRWIN."
----- She added that it was David Payne who organized this trip, and the apartment where she was already intended at the time she made the check in, there not having been any choice.

Jane Tanner

On these holidays, she never met nor dined (along with the rest of the group) with any family or person having the surname "Irwin".

Asked who had made the first booking at Tapas, JT did not know. Also doesnt know anyone by the name of ?Irwin? and no one of this name having dinner with them. Apart from Jane, only Matthew Oldfield was sick and he missed dinner on Sunday.

Matthew Oldfield

By the way, he denied that at any time did any individuals named IRWIN form part of the table, refuting equally that he had made the acquaintance of anyone so named.

These were 2 women (one pregnant). Ate at the same time on the 3rd May at Tapas Bar as the T9 otherwise nothing.
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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by jd on 15.08.11 22:48

The Irwins and the other 2 British sisters are the most important witness statements, they are being kept back for a reason and one which I would understand why. I hope one day they are released as I would love to read them

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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Guest on 16.08.11 7:52

The Irwins appeared before the tapas group on the list on the 3rd, which means something different happened first thing that morning. The Irwins will know what time they booked.
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Post by Gillyspot on 16.08.11 8:00

Stella wrote:The Irwins appeared before the tapas group on the list on the 3rd, which means something different happened first thing that morning. The Irwins will know what time they booked.

Perhaps they had previously cancelled their block booking for the 3rd May. This would tie in with them not being sure of getting tables for that night (on another thread). The question is why would the cancel it when they had ate there every night except the first one?
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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Guest on 16.08.11 15:34

@Gillyspot wrote:
Stella wrote:The Irwins appeared before the tapas group on the list on the 3rd, which means something different happened first thing that morning. The Irwins will know what time they booked.

Perhaps they had previously cancelled their block booking for the 3rd May. This would tie in with them not being sure of getting tables for that night (on another thread). The question is why would the cancel it when they had ate there every night except the first one?

Perhaps they were going to raise the alarm the night before, on the 2nd, but changed their minds last minute. If they did cancel for the 3rd, I would love to know what time they did it. It's the only explanation I can think of for their names not to be on the top of that list.
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Post by Waxwing on 19.10.13 15:16

Been away from this forum for a long time but like many others am back and trying to update myself.
Did the statement of sisters Brigid and Naomi Irwin ever become available to the public?

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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Estelle on 21.10.13 9:36

What abour the Sperrey and Carpenters statements? Only the second of the Carpenter statements was released.
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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Newintown on 31.01.14 14:46

@Waxwing wrote:Been away from this forum for a long time but like many others am back and trying to update myself.
Did the statement of sisters Brigid and Naomi Irwin ever become available to the public?

I don't know if this is relevant but I did a random internet search on the name "Irwin" to see what would come up and I found this (although there is no mention of an Irwin in the executive/directors list).  I have highlighted some of the items in red which stood out -

http://www.chambersandpartners.com/firm/531/1

Irwin Mitchell   (see my ETA at the end)
40 Holborn Viaduct
London
EC1N 2PZ
(number of partners 176)

THE FIRM Irwin Mitchell is unique, both in its culture and its approach to law. Nationally acclaimed, with strong international capabilities, Irwin Mitchell is one of a few law firms to provide a diverse range of legal services to businesses and private individuals. It has a strong customer service culture and a high level of client retention.

It has an established office network covering Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds, Leicester (consulting office), London, Manchester, Newcastle and Sheffield. It also operates in Scotland through Irwin Mitchell Scotland with an office in Glasgow and in the Spanish cities of Malaga and Madrid through Irwin Mitchell Abogados. The firm employs more than 2100 staff and has 176 Partners.

Personal Legal Services: The firm remains one of the leading personal injury and medical negligence litigation practices in the UK. It offers a wide range of services covering all the key injury types from road traffic accidents to product liability claims and serious head/spinal injury cases.

A comprehensive range of private client services are also provided, including a national family team with extensive experience in acting in complex financial disputes.

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I've copied this from the McCann files –

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id117.html

The McCanns' friends that the police is watching

Rachel and Matthew Oldfield

Rachell Mampilly is 36 and she is married to Matthew Oldfield. The couple has a daughter, who was only 18 months old when Madeleine McCann disappeared. But not even so the Oldfields asked for the Ocean Club's babysitting service. Matthew met Gerry McCann when both doctors worked together at a hospital in Leicester. Matt has a pending accusation for medical negligence in that hospital, after a late diagnosis resulted in the death of a patient. This was not the first time the Oldfields spent their holidays with this group. The last trip had been to Greece - where they also stayed in a resort of the Ocean Club's group - but that time Gerry and Kate did not accompany them.

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I found this on another search of the company –

Subsidiaries: Irwin Mitchell’s investment management business (IM Asset Management Ltd) provides specialist fund management services for private individuals. It acts for a wide range of clients including high-net-worth individuals and personal injury claimants.

Irwin Mitchell also owns Coris UK Ltd, which is part of the Coris Group, a worldwide network providing services to a range of independent clients in the travel and insurance industries. In addition, Irwin Mitchell owns a full service DCA (debt collection agency), Ascent Performance Group Limited, which covers all types of debt across the UK and Northern Ireland.

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I may be barking up the wrong tree but with such coincidences as Leicester, Glasgow, medical negligence, travel industry clients, the two Irwin people sitting with the McCanns at dinner, just more coincidences on the long list of coincidences which seem to follow this case around.

ETA: It's just hit me in the face that the second name of the company is "Mitchell", well, what another coincidence.

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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by ultimaThule on 31.01.14 16:26

The law firm Irwin Mitchell is not a partnership between two solicitors surnames Irwin and Mitchell;  it was founded some 100 years ago by solicitor Walter Irwin Mitchell to whom, as far I'm aware, a certain spokesman is not related.
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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Newintown on 31.01.14 16:40

@ultimaThule wrote:The law firm Irwin Mitchell is not a partnership between two solicitors surnames Irwin and Mitchell;  it was founded some 100 years ago by solicitor Walter Irwin Mitchell to whom, as far I'm aware, a certain spokesman is not related.

I did do a search on the origin of the company's name but couldn't find anything.  It just seemed a big coincidence but as I said I was probably barking up the wrong tree.   smilie

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Post by ultimaThule on 31.01.14 17:49

Irwin Mitchell has getting on for 200 partners, any of whom may be related to the firm's founder without necessarily sharing Walter's christian or surnames.

However, for the past umpteen years the senior partner has been Charles Napier who is worthy of mention on this forum as the much vaunted firm of Carter Ruck was unable to prevent Private Eye from publishing that which he sought to hide:  http://www.thelawyer.com/news/latest-news/irwin-mitchell-boss-steps-down-from-lsb-after-private-eye-complaint/1000862.article
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Post by Guest on 01.02.14 9:21

@Waxwing wrote:Been away from this forum for a long time but like many others am back and trying to update myself.
Did the statement of sisters Brigid and Naomi Irwin ever become available to the public?

You've got to wonder what's in the withheld statements. Has anybody ever come across any intimation as to why certain documents were withheld. Was this the PJ trying to keep at least some of their powder dry? It seems to particularly affect the initial statements of the other diners in the Tapas that night and such as Neil Berry - or are their second statements supposed to render the initial ones superfluous?
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Post by Doug D on 01.02.14 9:40

If the later 'considered' statements rendered the initial ones superfluous and merely mirror-imaged what had been said before, there would have been no reason not to publish them.

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Re: Irwin and Sperrey statements?

Post by Guest on 01.02.14 9:48

@Doug D wrote:If the later 'considered' statements rendered the initial ones superfluous and merely mirror-imaged what had been said before, there would have been no reason not to publish them.

Yes, good point. Thanks.

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Post by Silver Shuffle on 26.02.14 17:27

Probably just pure coincidence, but there was once an Irwin & Irwin estate agents in the
RUA 1-� DE MAIO NR. 2/A PRAIA DA LUZ, Portugal, 8600-172

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Post by sallypelt on 26.02.14 20:17

Another strange coincidence in all this is, that the Irwin sisters' grandfather was married to a Geraghty.

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Post by j.rob on 14.11.14 18:27

@jd wrote:The Irwins and the other 2 British sisters are the most important witness statements, they are being kept back for a reason and one which I would understand why. I hope one day they are released as I would love to read them


Maybe their statement contained information that was incriminating to the McCanns? 

I think it is also significant that the Sperrey statement are not there.

With regard to the two sisters, in one of the police witness statement there is a description of how she met Jez Wilkins while searching for Madeleine. From the manner in which it is written, I got the impression that she meant that she met Jez while taking part in the searches in the first hour or so after 10pm. Which, if this was true, would contradict what Jez told police, that he was woken up at 1pm by Matt and the resort manager.

In a press report I read with regards to the sisters and their searching, a paragraph had been inserted which claimed that the sister had met Jez the following morning. It looked to me as though someone was placing the meeting between Jez and the sister at a time that would tie in with what Jez had told police.

Perhaps also of note is that both Jez and S. Carpenter mention 'surfer friend/s' of Gerrys. Jez flags up having noticed 'rasta-man' (later apparently identified as Gerry's surfer friend Mike Sperrey) behaving suspiciously in the tapas restaurant between 7.30pm and 8pm on Thursday 3rd May.

And S. Carpenter mentions that he saw Gerry's two surfer friends the following day in reception and they spoke to him.

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